BFip

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Tammy~

Thanks!

Hey, is that a MAYA WRAP sling??? That really helps cover y;all up nursing.

I will have to practice practice practice. I've only ever been able to

nurse Holden in the football hold, but maybe he'd do cradle hold in the

sling. We'll have to try it out.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and support. I won't give up ;-)

~

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In a message dated 08/08/1999 1:52:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tcp@... writes:

<< I'm attaching a pic of Maddie nursing in her sling. >>

I'm quite curious... How old is Maddie? I love the pic, I'm thinking of

getting one myself, but she looks like a big girl. Lots of hair. I think

its neat that women nurse their older children. I hope to at least make it

to 6 months with Paige. She's 6 weeks this past Friday.

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In a message dated 8/8/99 9:36:43 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

tcp@... writes:

<< I

also tried the maya wrap pouch, but we prefer the adjustablility of the

sling. The sizing does run large-- I'm a 42D and needed a medium. >>

I found the same thing Tammy---the pouch was just way too long....the sling

is great because you can do such specific adjusting (lift the whole thing,

tighten the front, tighten the back, tighten the pouch part).

I took a medium too----and I'm 5'4 " and a 42 DD.

;-)~

[Guest guest]

I love that sling. It loks big enough for an older child to nurse in

without half their body hanging out. That is my problem. I need one that

is big enough for a big baby to cradle in. Any ideas???

RE: bfip

>I'm attaching a pic of Maddie nursing in her sling. Usually the sling is

>over her head..I wanted you to be able to see what doesn't show, though.

>I wear nursing shirts or a man's tank with slits cut out under my regular

>clothes--works great in the winter under sweaters. I also found that

nursing

>bras that open in the center instead of the top are much easier to open and

>close. Latch on IS the hardest part; I turn to a wall or go down an aisle

no

>one is in to get her attached, and then off I go. I have a problem with

>Maddie pulling my top up and exposing me...I usually keep my hand over the

>side she's nursing on to minimize what she shows the world 80)

>

>http://catalogs.mailordernet.com/ecobaby/dept.asp?dept_id=79

>

>Ecobaby has great prices on off-season nursing clothes. Right now they have

>long-sleeved tops for 16.95.. I'm getting a few!

>

>HTH,

>Tammy

>

>

>In a message dated 8/7/99 5:04:47 AM !!!First Boot!!!, PhilsGal@...

>writes:

>

><< . I nurse in public regularly, wherever I happen to be, grocery store,

>>>

>

>Just curious....HOW? There's no where to sit!

>

>I'd like to learn ;-)

>

>~

>

[Guest guest]

That's a Maya Wrap sling, Sherry. http://www.mayawrap.com. They send and

instructional video and there is a free trial period. Ask if they have any

seconds or returns..I know one woman who got hers for the cost of shipping.

Maddie is 20 lbs and 34 inches tall as of her 18 month check-up on Friday.

I've tried too many to count and that's the only one that works for me. I

also tried the maya wrap pouch, but we prefer the adjustablility of the

sling. The sizing does run large-- I'm a 42D and needed a medium.

Tammy

>

>

>

>

> I love that sling. It loks big enough for an older child to nurse in

> without half their body hanging out. That is my problem. I need one that

> is big enough for a big baby to cradle in. Any ideas???

>

> RE: bfip

[Guest guest]

> I love that sling. It loks big enough for an older child to nurse in

> without half their body hanging out. That is my problem. I need one that

> is big enough for a big baby to cradle in. Any ideas???

Same here. I have one made by Jolly Jumper (it serves it's purpose) but I

can't cradle in it no way! (he's 27 lbs, 32 in) he's all hanging over

the edges!

Gazley

Mom to (Oct 8, 1998)

http://members.tripod.com/~MysticMom

[Guest guest]

> also tried the maya wrap pouch, but we prefer the adjustablility of the

> sling. The sizing does run large-- I'm a 42D and needed a medium.

Do they size by breast size?? I'm a 40D and I'm 5'6 " ..just want one for the

next baby

Gazley

Mom to (Oct 8, 1998)

http://members.tripod.com/~MysticMom

[Guest guest]

> its neat that women nurse their older children. I hope to at least make

it

> to 6 months with Paige. She's 6 weeks this past Friday.

If you can make it to 6 weeks, you can make it as far as you want! 6 weeks

is generally when all the initial problems are worked out and you fall in

love with b-feeding!

Gazley

Mom to (Oct 8, 1998)

http://members.tripod.com/~MysticMom

[Guest guest]

I think they go by your above- the-bust measurement, which should also be

your bra size..40 in your case. But I didn't fit into their sizing charts at

all. I was lucky enough to buy one from a vendor at the LLL conference in

Florida, so I got to try them on first.

Tammy

>

>

>

>

> > also tried the maya wrap pouch, but we prefer the adjustablility of the

> > sling. The sizing does run large-- I'm a 42D and needed a medium.

>

> Do they size by breast size?? I'm a 40D and I'm 5'6 " ..just want

> one for the

> next baby

>

> Gazley

> Mom to (Oct 8, 1998)

> http://members.tripod.com/~MysticMom

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I have a problem with

Maddie pulling my top up and exposing me...I usually keep my hand over

the

side she's nursing on to minimize what she shows the world 80)

I guess this is where i am lucky. likes to nurse " in private " She

throws her little arm up over her face so you absolutely cannot see

ANYTHING! Almost like she rubs her forhead with her hand! BFip is no

problem for me! I have nursed during church, right there in the pew! and

in my Sunday School class! No one had a clue! I just fixed myslef back

up during a prayer! :-)

--Debbie

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In a message dated 8/8/99 7:00:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

gazley@... writes:

> If you can make it to 6 weeks, you can make it as far as you want! 6 weeks

> is generally when all the initial problems are worked out and you fall in

> love with b-feeding!

*****************

Personally, it took me closer to 10 weeks. I had very sore nipples in the

beginning. So if anyone out there is still having some problems after 6

weeks don't give-up yet! Some of us just take a little longer to toughen-up,

but it's well worth the wait! 8D

Hugs, Jean

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In a message dated 8/9/99 4:00:57 PM !!!First Boot!!!, JeanGeyer@...

writes:

<< Personally, it took me closer to 10 weeks. I had very sore nipples in the

beginning. So if anyone out there is still having some problems after 6

weeks don't give-up yet! Some of us just take a little longer to

toughen-up,

but it's well worth the wait! 8D

Hugs, >>

Jean~

My sentiments exactly. I got so sick of hearing " Oh 6 weeks is the

hump...once you get over that, you're home free " It took me about 10 weeks

too---I thought I'd never ever make it. I hated nursing.

Thank goodness I waited it out though, because now I am so in love with it ;-)

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In a message dated 8/9/99 12:45:32 PM Central Daylight Time,

emilym@... writes:

<< And learning to breastfeed lying down was

awesome! >>

Oh isn't that the BEST!!! I couldn't do that until was about 4 months

old and I was soo glad my sister in law could do it right after birth. I also

couldn't do anythign but the football hold for about 3 months but I still did

that in public just not walking around

Amy

[Guest guest]

It's funny because we had a really rough first week or so and then were off

and running. Only at 8 weeks did I battle plugged ducts, 9 weeks had

thrush, 10 weeks found out about his milk protein allergy, and I've been

struggling with that since. So we are all backwards! But in general, the

techniques of breastfeeding did lock into place at about 6 weeks for us.

And I do love it so much. And learning to breastfeed lying down was

awesome!

Mommy to Corey, 15 weeks tomorrow!

Re: bfip

> << Personally, it took me closer to 10 weeks. I had very sore nipples in

the

> beginning. So if anyone out there is still having some problems after 6

> weeks don't give-up yet! Some of us just take a little longer to

> toughen-up,

> but it's well worth the wait! 8D>>

> My sentiments exactly. I got so sick of hearing " Oh 6 weeks is the

> hump...once you get over that, you're home free " It took me about 10

weeks

> too---I thought I'd never ever make it. I hated nursing.

> Thank goodness I waited it out though, because now I am so in love with it

;-

Well I guess I'll have to change what I say! hehe! We actually didn't have

any problems in the beginning, so by 6 weeks I was way fallen in love

Gazley

Mom to (Oct 8, 1998)

http://members.tripod.com/~MysticMom

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[Guest guest]

> I hated nursing.

I have to know, , how does it make you feel to hear mothers'

excuses for not wanting to breastfeed because they didn't want to pass

their negative feelings onto their newborn? Is it true?

[Guest guest]

Only at 8 weeks did I battle plugged ducts, 9 weeks had thrush, 10 weeks

found out about his milk protein allergy, and I've been struggling with

that since. >>>>>

I bet you feel you feel you are prepared for anything next time now,

huh! LOL

Bless you for making it so far without giving up!

, mum to (aka peach)12-22-98

http://community.webtv.net/peachsmum/andherpeach

[Guest guest]

Thanks - yeah, I consider myself highly experienced! LOL! A breastfeeding

pro

RE: bfip

From: peachsmum@... (peachsmum)

Only at 8 weeks did I battle plugged ducts, 9 weeks had thrush, 10 weeks

found out about his milk protein allergy, and I've been struggling with

that since. >>>>>

I bet you feel you feel you are prepared for anything next time now,

huh! LOL

Bless you for making it so far without giving up!

, mum to (aka peach)12-22-98

http://community.webtv.net/peachsmum/andherpeach

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In a message dated 08/09/1999 4:05:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Feb98@... writes:

<< And learning to breastfeed lying down was

awesome! >> >>

That's how I nurse my dd Paige at night. Now I even do it in afternoons if

my 3 year old is napping. I love it so much, I want to do it all the time,

but its kind of hard when I'm at work (I've been bringing her in on a

temporary basis.)

jennifer

[Guest guest]

> Oh isn't that the BEST!!! I couldn't do that until was about 4

months

> old and I was soo glad my sister in law could do it right after birth. I

also

> couldn't do anythign but the football hold for about 3 months but I still

did

> that in public just not walking around

I quickly learned that one!! My sister still doesn't do it with her 2 1/2 mo

old daughter, and I hope she learns soon It's a lifesaver!!!

Gazley

Mom to (Oct 8, 1998)

http://members.tripod.com/~MysticMom

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In a message dated 8/10/99 2:26:20 AM !!!First Boot!!!, angehowe@...

writes:

<< I have to know, , how does it make you feel to hear mothers'

excuses for not wanting to breastfeed because they didn't want to pass

their negative feelings onto their newborn? Is it true?

>>

~

I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly, so feel free to clarify or

ask further questions if I answer this sloppily.

I can understand a woman being fearful of passing her resentment of nursing

onto her child---or hating it so much that it damages the care she gives her

child.

I will admit, during my bad bad painful days, I was not the best mom, and

consequentally Holden was not the best baby. It is definitely true, babies

are very sensitive creatures and they can read their moms. He could tell

that I was not happy and in pain and therefore he was not happy either. I

dreaded feeding him and sometimes would be angry that it hurt so much. But I

was so determined to do the right thing for him. I honestly thought, and

still think that motherhood isn't supposed to be a cake walk, parts of it are

painful, and it is my duty, as a woman and mother to suffer for the

well-being of my child. Maybe I was just a martyr. ;-)

The day that it was no longer painful was absolutely magical. I thought it

would never come. Whereas nursing was once a chore, or even sometimes

torture, it is now such a great romance between my son and I. I look foward

to nursing, spending that quality time just the two of us.

Anyway...I think it's a valid fear, but I don't think that it should be an

excuse not to try it. If a woman is afraid or angry for doing it- her baby

will know it and her baby will suffer as a result of it. I think that every

woman should try it and the large majority will have no problems and fall in

love with it almost immediately. And I think there should be more support

available so that those mom's who have problems, such as mine, can continue

to do it and fall in love with it too ;-)

~

[Guest guest]

just a funny story about when i was nursing my son...one morning he got up

around 5am for his feeding and i was really tired. i had a rocking chair in

his room that i fed him in. well i always fell asleep while feeding him.my

husband happened to get up for work and came down the hall and he started

freaking out. here...i had jordyn upside down. had his butt to my chest and

his poor head just hanging there. i must have picked him up out of his crib

that way too. poor thing...kim

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In a message dated 8/9/99 9:27:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mdmoore4@...

writes:

<< I guess this is where i am lucky. likes to nurse " in private " She

throws her little arm up over her face so you absolutely cannot see

ANYTHING! >>

Debbie,

How old is again? Philip used to like to nurse " in private " as well ...

then all of a sudden he didn't want *anything* touching his face!! He gets

mad if just the corner of my shirt is brushing against his face!! : ) Anyone

else??

Dana : )

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In a message dated 8/9/99 10:38:07 PM Central Daylight Time,

Mygrdntool@... writes:

<< I honestly thought, and

still think that motherhood isn't supposed to be a cake walk, parts of it

are

painful, and it is my duty, as a woman and mother to suffer for the

well-being of my child. Maybe I was just a martyr. ;-) >>

Nothing in life is easy. As the old saying goes no pain no gain. I think

although this sounds odd it really is the right mindset. You should do

wahtever you can to make sure your child is taken care of the way he is

supost to be.

Amy

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In a message dated 8/10/99 2:30:31 PM !!!First Boot!!!, angehowe@...

writes:

<< If we aren't

allowed to feel these things at birth, it's no wonder that breastfeeding

could be fearful, since it's likely to be feelings never experienced

before! >>

~

I agree with you to an extent on this. I assume you are referring to using

pain-releif in labor, correct? My labor wasn't too bad- just long- but my

delivery was awful. I felt every part of my c-section. Not a fun thing. I

thought " after doing this, nothing else will seem painful " .

As weird as it may sound...that operation (and for women who deliver

" normally " ) was a few minutes of the day, and labor was only a few 20 hours,

whereas nursing was 12 times a day for 30 to 90 minutes. You know that labor

and delivery will hurt, you EXPECT it to hurt- that's why I'm not really

huffy about my feeling the surgical delivery- because had it been a normal

delivery, I would have been in pain too. BUT, with nursing you don't expect

it to hurt. You don't expect it to be so trying. You don't have a

nurse/birth attendent with you every step of the way explaining. With labor

and delivery I knew that there would be an end, I knew that one way or the

other, my son would eventually be born. With nursing, I wasn't so sure. It

wasn't so definitive, especially since I didn't have a real clear answer as

to WHY I was in so much pain. More than anything it was frustrating.

Anyway, I think that I just rambled a bit - I'm sorry ;-) I think you're

right, that in most cases labor and delivery, if you're " feeling " it can help

you prepare. But I also think that more importantly, women need to know what

to expect of nursing BEFORE ever going into labor. This may sound dumb, but

I thought it would be an instinct, I thought I'd instantly fall in love, and

since I had taken nursing classes and knew how to position him right that I'd

never have pain. HA!

Okay, sorry if I've made this longer than the original thread was meant to

be. Just kind of passionate about this area ;-)

~

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> Anyway...I think it's a valid fear, but I don't think that it should be

> an excuse not to try it. If a woman is afraid or angry for doing it- her

> baby will know it and her baby will suffer as a result of it. I think

> that every woman should try it and the large majority will have no

> problems and fall in love with it almost immediately. And I think there

> should be more support available so that those mom's who have problems,

> such as mine, can continue to do it and fall in love with it too ;-)

>

You answered exactly the question I was asking! I hadn't ever

experienced any sort of anger that would make me think it was outside

the scope of normal following my babies births. Sure, I would be

frustrated enough to throw things against the wall in the first few

weeks -- who wouldn't!

I think you said it so well in your first sentence though, " it's a valid

fear, but I don't think that it should be an excuse not to try it. " I

can't imagine any part of parenthood, from conception on, that isn't

challenging or riddled with fear at some point, but like you said, it

isn't a strong enough reason, for me at least, to not try it

[parenthood]. I look at labor as a comparison. Most women go through

the gamut of emotions during labor, from excitement and exhileration at

the beginning, to intense, focused confidence, to doubt and despair, to

anger sometimes, and definitely fear. I think feeling these in the

course of labor help us judge our capacity as a mother. If we aren't

allowed to feel these things at birth, it's no wonder that breastfeeding

could be fearful, since it's likely to be feelings never experienced

before!