baby food

[Guest guest]

hi , Is baby food in jars o.k. to use as long as they do not contain

sugar ? My son is nine but he has a G- tube and we supplement his

diet with several jars of earth's best veggies carrots, peas and

meats. If I can,t use some type of babyfood the diet will be very

difficult for us. His g-tube opening is very small and it is

difficult to puree meats and veggies to fit through the opening.

[Guest guest]

I found this post by Patti from our old list. I hope that it helps. I

understand your plight and praise you for considering the SCD.

Mimi

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You asked:

< added sugar? I am not talking about Gerber's or other commerical

brands. I mean brands such as ORganic Baby or Earth's Best, which say

right on the labels " no

added sugar or sweeteners " and list vegetables and water as the only

ingredients.>>

I think this is basically the same issue we're having over the juices.

Please read all the way through this and try to understand the

position some of us are in....

In terms of " official " SCD, we want to be very clear about what the

rules are, according to Elaine. Those of us that are moderating,

writing for the website, speaking at support groups or conferences or

in any other way representing SCD feel we must stick to her

tried-and-true protocol of over 45 years of experience. She has begged

everyone to not use canned foods except for the ones she lists as

legal ..... and especially not canned vegetables, including baby

foods. I think if she were here on the list right now she's probably

say...... and ESPECIALLY not baby foods. This comes from her bad

experiences with some of the companies..... and in particular, one

baby food company that was involved in a lawsuit for not labeling the

additives they were putting in their products.

It may not seem fair to indict other companies for what some

unscrupulous manufacturers have done but Elaine wants to be on the

safe side for the sake of our children. It is true that companies can

legally get away with adding things and not labeling them..... as long

as it's less than a certain percentage (I think 2%?) of the total

product. At least that's the case for canned veggies.... and I assume

it applies to fruits and other canned things, and maybe other products

as well. With that said, it does NOT mean that they all WILL do so....

just because they CAN. Elaine just feels it isn't worth the risk. She

has extensive experience dealing with food production " insiders " ....

so she knows FAR more than we do.

If you have communication (in writing) from a company that states they

have not added ANYthing.... not the slightest SPECK..... and you are

comfortable with that, then that is something you should feel free to

choose to do with your own child. This entire diet is all based on our

free will to make choices. There are no SCD Police!!

However, please understand...... that AT THIS TIME, and until such

time that Elaine gives her approval, we cannot recommend to anyone

else who might be reading this list that they should then consider

that product to be legal..... I mean, they can if they want to, but

WE, as spokespersons for SCD and for Elaine, will not do it. Period.

Until we change this policy, per her instructions, there WILL NOT BE

an official " list of legal pre-made products " that is sent out by this

list, or posted on pecanbread.com.... other than the items Elaine has

already stated are legal in her book and on her website. I have to put

my own personal preferences and opinions on particular companies aside

when I'm giving someone SCD advice here on the list...... I can't

endorse any products that Elaine has not and need to discourage anyone

else from doing so.

So, it would be pointless to have any written statement from Earth's

Best or Knudsen or whoever posted to the list. If you want to post

that you have received such written communication/verification.....

and if others want to then write to you privately and perhaps have you

send a snail-mail copy to them (or contact the company themselves for

the same) that is UP TO THEM. You and anyone here on the list can make

that choice for themselves. All we ask is that you don't reply to

other people on the list in the future stating " this brand of baby

food is LEGAL " (or this juice, or this whatever). I hope you

understand. We will never jump on your and scold you for your

choices.... as long as you respect our point of view and why we have

to stick to it. The only other thing that we WILL request of you is

this......

PLEASE..... If you do NOT see the results you were hoping for on SCD,

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, remove anything you're using that is not

deemed officially legal by Elaine and do her version of the diet for a

while to see if there is any improvement. Please.... promise yourself

that you'll consider doing that? I know it might seem difficult, an

extra burden on you or even nearly impossible as you look at it right

now..... but down the road, things may be quite different.

I'd like to think that the Earth's Best people are good,

well-intentioned human beings who really care...... however, I can't

resist sending this link to an article that reveals some things you

might want to know about your favorite product labels and who actually

owns them (HJ Heinz owns Earth's Best, BTW).... along with some

tidbits about some of the larger company's records on human rights

around the world, environment, etc.

www.hwfc.com/CoopScoop/Apr03/suppliers.html I'm truly not meaning to

bash any company..... I have bought CASES of Earth's Best in the past

myself, and I loved the products. This article was just an eye-opener

for me.

I hope you will understand the issues we have to think through in

terms of the list. It comes up frequently so I might just have to save

this post and repost it a hundred more times so I won't have to do so

much typing every time someone asks! Also, please understand that

this particular issue would be probably be handled FAR more harshly,

from what I've heard, if this were one of the other SCD lists for

adults! I'm really trying to be the kind diplomat here! :)

Patti, mom to Katera

> hi , Is baby food in jars o.k. to use as long as they do not contain

> sugar ? My son is nine but he has a G- tube and we supplement his

> diet with several jars of earth's best veggies carrots, peas and

> meats. If I can,t use some type of babyfood the diet will be very

> difficult for us. His g-tube opening is very small and it is

> difficult to puree meats and veggies to fit through the opening.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Jarred baby foods are not legal..... so you'd really be taking a chance and

possibly going to a lot of effort, but not getting the results you were hoping

for. Katera is almost 8 yrs old, and very delayed....... she doesn't have a

G-tube but she doesn't chew well at all so I usually puree most of her foods. I

use a hand blender on most things.... and find that if I add the right amount of

liquid (broth, water, or sometimes a little oil) I can get the consistency

pretty much any way I want it. I'm certain I could easily go for a thick " soup "

type consistency. The hand blender is really fast and easy..... very little

cleanup. I'm sure some of the more fibrous foods would be a little bit harder to

puree....... if I'm doing something like carrots, I first steam them well and

then sort of pre-mash them with a fork. With meats, I cook till really tender

(like in the crock pot), then slice really thin pieces..... then cut those up a

bit further, depending on how wide the chunk of meat was. Then I mix that in

with whatever veggies she's having and whir the whole thing up. Sounds gross to

most people..... but she accepts it just fine. I get a pretty fine consistency

throughout, so I'd urge you to try it out. I just bought an inexpensive hand

blender...... I think it was $12.99.... and it's working fine.

Patti, mom to Katera, SCD 14 months

baby food

hi , Is baby food in jars o.k. to use as long as they do not contain

sugar ? My son is nine but he has a G- tube and we supplement his

diet with several jars of earth's best veggies carrots, peas and

meats. If I can,t use some type of babyfood the diet will be very

difficult for us. His g-tube opening is very small and it is

difficult to puree meats and veggies to fit through the opening.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

So, jarred baby foods, even fruits, are not legal? My 12 month old

will not eat the pureed foods anymore, hardly. He wants things he

can hold and eat, but he only has 3 teeth in front. Is it okay for

him to eat semi-solid things, like grapes halved or chicken, little

pieces. I have been giving him things like this, but wonder if he

is really getting the nutrients he needs from it. Thanks for input.

Tina

> Hi,

> Jarred baby foods are not legal..... so you'd really be taking a

chance and possibly going to a lot of effort, but not getting the

results you were hoping for. Katera is almost 8 yrs old, and very

delayed....... she doesn't have a G-tube but she doesn't chew well

at all so I usually puree most of her foods. I use a hand blender on

most things.... and find that if I add the right amount of liquid

(broth, water, or sometimes a little oil) I can get the consistency

pretty much any way I want it. I'm certain I could easily go for a

thick " soup " type consistency. The hand blender is really fast and

easy..... very little cleanup. I'm sure some of the more fibrous

foods would be a little bit harder to puree....... if I'm doing

something like carrots, I first steam them well and then sort of pre-

mash them with a fork. With meats, I cook till really tender (like

in the crock pot), then slice really thin pieces..... then cut those

up a bit further, depending on how wide the chunk of meat was. Then

I mix that in with whatever veggies she's having and whir the whole

thing up. Sounds gross to most people..... but she accepts it just

fine. I get a pretty fine consistency throughout, so I'd urge you to

try it out. I just bought an inexpensive hand blender...... I think

it was $12.99.... and it's working fine.

>

> Patti, mom to Katera, SCD 14 months

> baby food

>

>

> hi , Is baby food in jars o.k. to use as long as they do not

contain

> sugar ? My son is nine but he has a G- tube and we supplement

his

> diet with several jars of earth's best veggies carrots, peas and

> meats. If I can,t use some type of babyfood the diet will be

very

> difficult for us. His g-tube opening is very small and it is

> difficult to puree meats and veggies to fit through the opening.

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" My 12 month old will not eat the pureed foods anymore, hardly.

He wants things he can hold and eat, but he only has 3 teeth in

front. Is it okay for him to eat semi-solid things, like grapes

halved or chicken, little pieces. "

I wouldn't give a 12 month old with no molars any grapes. He

could choke very easily. Will he eat very well cooked chunky

foods, like carrots, green beans, zucchini chunks, apple chunks,

etc?

If he is not smashing the food with his gums pretty well, then I

would tend to stick as close to pureed foods as he will tolerate.

It does make it harder for our bodies to digest foods that have

not been well-chewed.

Would he tolerate you feeding him pureed foods and then

intermittently give him a piece of finger food for him to feed

himself? Like a muffin cube or a piece of cut up pancake?

He may be big enough to use a spoon on chunky baby food. It

just depends on his fine motor skills and your tolerance for

mess...LOL.

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 18 months