Re: Need polysaccharides for probiotic to be viable? -Jody

[Guest guest]

So does this mean that the Custom Probiotic is not really effective

or not, since it is dairy-free? Also, what about the goat yogurt?

Is the probiotic in that effective, even though there is no lactose

in the yogurt? I am a bit confused.

Also, does the probiotic in the yogurt only stay good for 2 weeks?

Thanks!

Tina

> Lainie,

>

> I did contact Elaine, I just forgot to post her reply. My

apologies.

>

> Pangborn's statement:

>

> " Please note that some nutritional supplements, especially

> probiotics, are not efficacious or viable without some included

> sugars, including disaccharides or polysaccharides, in relatively

> small amounts. Otherwise the probiotics will be 'dead on

> arrival,'and the bad bugs can take back their territory. "

>

>

> Here is what Elaine wrote in repsonse to your question:

>

> " There is some truth in this statement and that is why I have

> always approved of a bit of lactose in probiotics. I doubt if the

> lactobacillus, etc. will be " dead " - they are in a freeze dried

state

> in the probiotic and are not metabolizing anyhow. But once they

> are " resucciatated " by the conditions of the human intestine,

> they do well on a bit of lactose. It is only a minuscule amount

> and will be consumed by the lactobacilli in the probiotic. "

>

> This would NOT mean that Elaine agrees that FOS or inulin

> should be added to the probiotics though.

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -5 and -7

> SCD 18 months

[Guest guest]

" So does this mean that the Custom Probiotic is not really

effective or not, since it is dairy-free? "

--> It seems to me that it must be viable because people

experience a die-off reaction with it.

" Also, what about the goat yogurt? Is the probiotic in that

effective, even though there is no lactose in the yogurt? "

--> There is lactose in the goat milk when you put it in the yogurt

maker. The yogurt starter (bacteria) consume the lactose for

food as they multiply during the 24 hours that they are in the

yogurt maker. Once the 24 hours is up, the bacteria has

consumed all of the lactose and the resulting yogurt is virtually

lactose free.

" Also, does the probiotic in the yogurt only stay good for 2

weeks? "

--> The yogurt stays good refrigerated for 2 weeks or so. Please

keep in mind that it will stay freshest if you only put clean spoons

into the container. (Meaning don't put a spoon that has touched

anything else into the container.)

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 18 months

[Guest guest]

I doubt if the

> lactobacillus, etc. will be " dead " - they are in a freeze dried

state

> in the probiotic and are not metabolizing anyhow. But once they

> are " resucciatated " by the conditions of the human intestine,

> they do well on a bit of lactose. It is only a minuscule amount

> and will be consumed by the lactobacilli in the probiotic. "

Thank you so much Elaine and Jody for the responses. I now think I

understand the goat yogourt set up a bit better, but I am still a bit

unclear about how to proceed with the Acidophilus Powder from

Probiotics, which I was hoping to start him out with, before trying

the goat yogourt.

When Elaine says that " ...they will do well on a bit of lactose. It

is only a minuscule amount... " , when I give my son the Acidophilus

Powder, should I also make sure I give him a miniscule amount of

lactose? If so, I am wondering what source of lactose I should use,

and how much? (Or perhaps was I mistaken about Custom Probiotics

Acidophilus Powder being lactose-free?)

Again, I appreciate any help you can offer.

[Guest guest]

The yogurt will be more effective than any supplement, hands

down.

So, if you are seriously considering yogurt, you might just move

in that direction to start with.

You could start by making the nut yogurt if you are concerned

with the goat milk issue.

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 18 months

[Guest guest]

Hi Jody,

We've just come back from holidays, and I want to thank you for your

nut yogourt suggestion. We will start with that, to get the

probiotics going. I appreciate all of the clarification.