Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 --- On Sat, 11/14/09, lkrizkalla wrote "I've connected my recent weight gain to the diet rebel (partly)....." Hi , I have had plenty experience with my "diet rebel", lol! Sometimes she is a whisper, and it's kind of subtle and hard to pick up on, but other times she is obvious and kind of pissed off at people who judge what she eats! I had been working Overcoming Overeating for 15 years, without on-line support, and then a Dr. totally berrated me, I fell back into a dieting mode; nothing extreme, but I did cut out processed foods entirely. So I realized, wow, that's not working, and I found a forum for non-dieting, (not this one at first) and I started bringing some previously forbidden foods back into the house; cake being one of them. Long story short, the owner of that other forum told me I was choosing cake too many times, and wow did my diet rebel come out swinging full force!! I knew what was happening, but I couldn't stem my reaction to what that woman had said! I am a-o.k. now because I quit that forum and am here, and have really and truly legalized cake so it's just ordinary food again; I like it but am not going to it as much as I had when it first came back into my life (a long lost friend, lol). No guilt whatsoever! I'm having plenty of fruits, veggies, and not dis-allowing anything, and every bite is to be enjoyed without guilt no matter what the food is. I refuse to call some foods good and some bad; I think it's all in the balance, and I trust myself and my body to know what to do. I just get away from people who are preaching to the choir about what to eat! My body is mine and I'm allowed to decide how I fuel it and I'm even totally allowed to enjoy the foods; it IS one pleasure amoung many in this life! My motto is "we only live once; eat chocolate!" lol (and other stuff of course). Also, I found a book on eating mindfully, by Albers, which really does help because I notice the tastes of the food so much more closely and I am discovering new likes and dislikes, etc. It's a postive adventure so long as we are surrounded by the right instead of the wrong kind of support!!! Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Not just thoughts for me but I have definitely been rebelling against anything I considered to be diet food mostly fruits and vegetables. Came to me at a lunch with friends the other day I ordered a side salad with my lunch and I took a couple of bites and really liked the flavour of the salad and items in the salad, e.g., the cucumber - yum; then quickly said blah and pushed the salad away. I've since been allowing these items into my life again as I feel much better having them. I've been on a straight what I call junk food kick for months and noticed I'm not feeling so hot. A lot of time when I eat these things especially chips I don't really enjoy them and I don't like the way I feel afterward. I read something here to the effect of rebelling and it what made me realize what I was doing. My husband even said " you know you could have veggies once in a while. " I've not only had one but two flu bugs this year alone and one back injury. I hadn't been sick in almost 15 years. I think I'm done rebelling it's not only about how I feel when I'm eating but how do I feel afterward. Jo. > > I've connected my recent weight gain to the diet rebel (partly). The rebel isn't at peace...it wants to fight and show who is boss. If I engage in that behavior, I'm still in the diet mentality and dealing with the guilt associated with certain foods. It's like I'm eating a cookie while feeling guilt and anger that I'm being told no and not listening to my hunger/fullness cues. There isn't any peace and nothing intuitive about that. It's a much nicer place to be in to eat the cookie with peace, without guilt, anger, fear, and listen to how I feel while eating it and after and how it actually tastes instead of trying to prove something by eating it. > > Any thoughts out there on this? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 --- On Sun, 11/15/09, klic1234 wrote "Not just thoughts for me but I have definitely been rebelling against anything I considered to be diet food mostly fruits and vegetables....." Hi Jo, What helps me with fruits/veggies/salads is I don't eat them the way I did while dieting; in other words I prepare them in ways that make them taste a million times better than the plain way I ate them when dieting. And also, while I make sure I know I can choose fruits/veggies/salads, and I do choose them, I NEVER, EVER restrict or disallow any of the other types of food. I read one book that said to be your own gourmet chef (since we can't all afford to hire one, lol). It said make everything taste as great as you can; that you deserve it. No more plain overcooked broccoli, but nice recipes for broccoli that actually make it taste really good! Last night I did have tacos with lean ground beef, but I added very finely chopped broccoli florets and only cooked it one minute after adding the broccoli so it wouldn't be overcooked at all, and the taco tasted really delicious! Another time I'll use the more lean chicken but I allow all foods so the beef was fine for last night's dinner. Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Hi Laurie: I totally agree with your gourmet preparation of vegies. Diets are only concerned with calories consumed. So they focus on low calorie vegies without any add fats. No restaurant chef would serve brocolli or asparagus without some butter or olive oil 'seasoning', unless 'fat free' preparation is requested. Because I'm allergic to dairy products, I request restaurant chefs substitute olive oil for butter on vegies. Some chefs gladly agree and even make very vegies tasty with allergy substitutes. Others decide that I'm just counting calories and serve me steamed (usually undercooked) vegies with no seasoning. I LOVE almost all vegies, but I strongly dislike unseasoned undercooked vegies. So I often take those unseasoned vegies home and add them to salads or soups which I can prepare with my own allergy free fats or other seasonings. My husband grew up hating most vegies. When we married, I wanted to prepare vegies with our meals, but he insisted he didn't like all but a few vegies. Over the years he began to like more and more vegies, because I prepared them differently than his mom prepared most vegies. He now realizes his disliked his mom's preparation of most vegies, rather than the vegies themselves. So I also encourage anyone, who thinks they dislike vegies or fruits or any other 'low calorie' foods they ate on weight loss diets, to look for gourmet recipes or preparation tips for those 'healthy' foods they think they dislike. SUE > What helps me with fruits/veggies/salads is I don't eat them the way I did while dieting; in other words I prepare them in ways that make them taste a million times better than the plain way I ate them when dieting. >  > And also, while I make sure I know I can choose fruits/veggies/salads, and I do choose them, I NEVER, EVER restrict or disallow any of the other types of food. >  > I read one book that said to be your own gourmet chef (since we can't all afford to hire one, lol). It said make everything taste as great as you can; that you deserve it. >  > No more plain overcooked broccoli, but nice recipes for broccoli that actually make it taste really good! >  > Last night I did have tacos with lean ground beef, but I added very finely chopped broccoli florets and only cooked it one minute after adding the broccoli so it wouldn't be overcooked at all, and the taco tasted really delicious! Another time I'll use the more lean chicken but I allow all foods so the beef was fine for last night's dinner. >  > Laurie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 2:16 PM "Hi Laurie: I totally agree with your gourmet preparation of vegies..." Hi Sue, I am laughing right now because my mother's way of cooking broccoli was to put it in boiling water for a good 25 minutes til it was super soggy and pea green! And then she served it plain! yuck! When I cook it, I look for that nice vibrant green shade and I love olive oil and a bit of garlic mixed in. Poor veggies!! They've gotten a really bad rap in so many ways! :.) Laurie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Hi : In my opinion, The answer to your problem lies with FULLY ALLOWING your rebel to eat whatever IT wants whenever IT wants. You need to surrender to it, not resist it. By FULLY allowing yourself anything and everything, the rebel within you will lose its power because there will be no more resistance. When there is no resistance, there is peace. Your weight will return to its normal state as a result. The intuitive eater is not something your mind can create. It is already within you. When you " resist not, " you allow this intuition to operate. I hope this makes some sense to you. It is what I believe to be true. Warm Regards, Deb > > I've connected my recent weight gain to the diet rebel (partly). The rebel isn't at peace...it wants to fight and show who is boss. If I engage in that behavior, I'm still in the diet mentality and dealing with the guilt associated with certain foods. It's like I'm eating a cookie while feeling guilt and anger that I'm being told no and not listening to my hunger/fullness cues. There isn't any peace and nothing intuitive about that. It's a much nicer place to be in to eat the cookie with peace, without guilt, anger, fear, and listen to how I feel while eating it and after and how it actually tastes instead of trying to prove something by eating it. > > Any thoughts out there on this? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 In my opinion,"The answer to your problem lies with FULLY ALLOWING your rebel to eat whatever IT wants whenever IT wants. You need to surrender to it, not resist it..." Hi and Deb, I totally agree with Deb about fully allowing all foods and reminding yourself that none are forbidden. I know that I am allowed to eat whatever I want, whenever I want, whether hungry or not. Sometimes I do choose to wait for hunger because I want to but not because it's a rule, and not at all that I have to. If I decide not to wait til hungry that is perfectly ok also. If I eat when not hungry I make a point of eating as mindfully as possible to really be totally aware and conscious while eating, and I make doubly sure to remind myself that I'm allowed and to not yell at myself or judge; after all I'm not breaking any rules. If I eat when hungry I still work on eating mindfully. Either way I make a point of enjoying what I'm eating. I tend to like waiting for hunger if it seems easy enough and not like a resisting of something I really want to have. I don't fight and resist those times when I really, really want something, because I know I'll eat, feel satisfied, and not consume half as much as when I try really hard to resist, and then end up giving in and eating in a mindless way and eating much more. Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Intuitive eating is a very long process. We have been so conditioned to dieting and guilt around food that it will take a while for our brains to be rewired. It tood me 2 years and I am finally for the most part not all the time at peace with food. I do not weight myself but my body is getting smaller and my clothes are getting bigger. Just be patient with yourself it will happen for you. > > I've connected my recent weight gain to the diet rebel (partly). The rebel isn't at peace...it wants to fight and show who is boss. If I engage in that behavior, I'm still in the diet mentality and dealing with the guilt associated with certain foods. It's like I'm eating a cookie while feeling guilt and anger that I'm being told no and not listening to my hunger/fullness cues. There isn't any peace and nothing intuitive about that. It's a much nicer place to be in to eat the cookie with peace, without guilt, anger, fear, and listen to how I feel while eating it and after and how it actually tastes instead of trying to prove something by eating it. > > Any thoughts out there on this? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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