Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 JOAN, After suffering impossibly with out of control neuralgia over most of my body for eight years, I can truly say that THAT pain is finally under control. I have to be careful, take my meds, stay away from heat and stressors, but, yes, I have finally put it in its place for a good long time for me. Yes, I have all sorts of other pain, a lot of it really bad, but that was the only one that had me wishing I was dead several times a week and I and my pain specialist finally have it under control. There is always hope. Remember that, Joan. Lovingly, > To my Neuro group in physical pain, > > I need to know right now ... do all the drugs you have been put on, > meaning, the MTX, plaquenil, Imuran, Cytoxin, etc., ever help to stop > the pain?...do these drugs truly put us into remission and stop the > pain from continuing to destroy us? > > I will not be starting my immunosuppresant therapy regimen until > 11/22. I really need to know. I can and will live with the current > pain I have in my spine, legs, feet as long as it ends there and as > long as pain medications continue to lessen it. My arms suddenly > became involved, too ... is it ever going to end?...or will every area > of my body which has a nerve linked to it become full of pain?... > > I know many of you, and from what I've read, especially Steve, has > much pain throughout his/her body. What, if anything, really works to > help the pain in form of pain meds, and what, if anything, really > stops this monster in its tracks? > > I know part of these questions regarding stopping the sarc are stupid > questions ... given that if anyone knew the answers, we would then > call it a cure ... I'm really needing answers so that I can start load > my battlepack (my mind) with the appropriate gear (acceptance, > understanding, tolerance) in this fight that I've only recently > learned I will need to battle. > > I had planned on one day returning to work and a normal, productive, > functioning, pain-free life. I was told yesterday to tell my boss, > who has been holding my job, anyway to tell him to go ahead and fill > my position ... that my prior beliefs that I only woke up to > yesterday, are not going to happen and that I need to rid my belief > that I will be able to return to my job, my old life, etc. > > How do I tell my parents that their baby girl is not going to improve > and will mostly like progress (I'm quoting my dr.'s). How do I tell > my Joe that he is the main person I will become completely dependent > on?...How do I tell him that no matter how many times he says the > ry, it's not going to change my physical state?...How do I tell > myself that I need to be strong when I am so weak...physically and > mentally?...How do I fight for a cure or hope someone else does in > this group, when I know we are all too sick? How do I tell God that > my faith is now in question? > > P.S. For those of you, including myself, who mention God ... God has > not answered my prayers ... I pray for all of you and all of the > world's sick children ... perhaps, it can only come in the answer of > the being able to accept and deal with it, but as I mentioned, I truly > am only in the very beginning of being able to learn how to do that. > It is hard to hear, say, understand, accept, etc., anything when your > body is riddled with pain. > > Joan > > > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > The Neurosarcoidosis Community > > NS CHAT:- Has been cancelled for now. > > Message Archives:- > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/messages > > Members Database:- > Listings of locations, phone numbers, and instant messengers. > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/database > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 , I know this question will sound stupid because I should know all your meds, as your assistant BSF, but which med got the neuropathic pain under control? My feet are getting worse by the day, it seems. I don't know whether increasing the Neurontin will help. I see the doctor on Tuesday. Thanks. Oh, BTW, I'll bring Ruby when I come to see Hayden's play, if that's all right. Rose Re: Does the pain ever go away? ... how do I help myself when I can't?... JOAN,After suffering impossibly with out of control neuralgia over most of my body for eight years, I can truly say that THAT pain is finally under control. I have to be careful, take my meds, stay away from heat and stressors, but, yes, I have finally put it in its place for a good long time for me. Yes, I have all sorts of other pain, a lot of it really bad, but that was the only one that had me wishing I was dead several times a week and I and my pain specialist finally have it under control.There is always hope. Remember that, Joan.Lovingly, To my Neuro group in physical pain, I need to know right now ... do all the drugs you have been put on, meaning, the MTX, plaquenil, Imuran, Cytoxin, etc., ever help to stop the pain?...do these drugs truly put us into remission and stop the pain from continuing to destroy us? I will not be starting my immunosuppresant therapy regimen until 11/22. I really need to know. I can and will live with the current pain I have in my spine, legs, feet as long as it ends there and as long as pain medications continue to lessen it. My arms suddenly became involved, too ... is it ever going to end?...or will every area of my body which has a nerve linked to it become full of pain?... I know many of you, and from what I've read, especially Steve, has much pain throughout his/her body. What, if anything, really works to help the pain in form of pain meds, and what, if anything, really stops this monster in its tracks? I know part of these questions regarding stopping the sarc are stupid questions ... given that if anyone knew the answers, we would then call it a cure ... I'm really needing answers so that I can start load my battlepack (my mind) with the appropriate gear (acceptance, understanding, tolerance) in this fight that I've only recently learned I will need to battle. I had planned on one day returning to work and a normal, productive, functioning, pain-free life. I was told yesterday to tell my boss, who has been holding my job, anyway to tell him to go ahead and fill my position ... that my prior beliefs that I only woke up to yesterday, are not going to happen and that I need to rid my belief that I will be able to return to my job, my old life, etc. How do I tell my parents that their baby girl is not going to improve and will mostly like progress (I'm quoting my dr.'s). How do I tell my Joe that he is the main person I will become completely dependent on?...How do I tell him that no matter how many times he says the ry, it's not going to change my physical state?...How do I tell myself that I need to be strong when I am so weak...physically and mentally?...How do I fight for a cure or hope someone else does in this group, when I know we are all too sick? How do I tell God that my faith is now in question? P.S. For those of you, including myself, who mention God ... God has not answered my prayers ... I pray for all of you and all of the world's sick children ... perhaps, it can only come in the answer of the being able to accept and deal with it, but as I mentioned, I truly am only in the very beginning of being able to learn how to do that. It is hard to hear, say, understand, accept, etc., anything when your body is riddled with pain. Joan ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Neurosarcoidosis Community NS CHAT:- Has been cancelled for now. Message Archives:- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/messages Members Database:- Listings of locations, phone numbers, and instant messengers. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/database Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Rose, The neuralgia is mainly controlled by the neurontin but more importantly the klonipin -- but the two together. However, I've been on these two meds together for at least seven years, I don't know if adding the methadone stopped it completely or my complete withdrawal fram any and all triggers. I do use that oxydose elixer for breakthrough, but the pain I am trying to control is usually bone pain (now that I am off of Vioxx) or muscle pain. For instance, I did much too much yesterday after I had taken some ritalin -- I managed to pad that tan chair in my living room ( the foam rubber I put around the arms I finally had to keep together with those metal tabs that have long flat slats that pinch in the opposite direction? I had to punch the slats through four layers of the padding) so that I could finally put on the slipcovers we bought -- I also did the couch. The covers are a really nice, warm camel corduroy -- very easy on my sensitive skin when I want to wander out of my bed and into anoter part of the house. It was a little sad, though, lying there, just staring at my piano and my sound system. I do hope I find a way to get more energy from a source that's not so harsh as the ritalin or provigil. BTW, it's fine to return Ruby when you come down for the play,. What night were you coming down?? I am elated you are coming, but I must admit that I had forgotten that you had agreed to come. Hayden will be very happy to have you both there. I do hope you are able to get a script from your doc for one like it. They sell them at Wheelchairs and More (really freaky name -- too much like Toys are Us or something) which is just past St. 's hospital to the West on 86th street on the north side of the street -- in the strip mall just east of the large Kroger store. (sorry for tmi). Hope all is going well up there in your end of the woods. Let us know just which night you are coming down. I look forward to it! Renenesss > , I know this question will sound stupid because I should know > all your meds, as your assistant BSF, but which med got the > neuropathic pain under control? My feet are getting worse by the day, > it seems. I don't know whether increasing the Neurontin will help. I > see the doctor on Tuesday. Thanks. Oh, BTW, I'll bring Ruby when I > come to see Hayden's play, if that's all right. Rose > Re: Does the pain ever go away? ... how do > I help myself when I can't?... > > JOAN, > > After suffering impossibly with out of control neuralgia over most of > my body for eight years, I can truly say that THAT pain is finally > under control. I have to be careful, take my meds, stay away from heat > and stressors, but, yes, I have finally put it in its place for a good > long time for me. Yes, I have all sorts of other pain, a lot of it > really bad, but that was the only one that had me wishing I was dead > several times a week and I and my pain specialist finally have it > under control. > > There is always hope. Remember that, Joan. > > Lovingly, > > > > > To my Neuro group in physical pain, > > > > I need to know right now ... do all the drugs you have been put on, > meaning, the MTX, plaquenil, Imuran, Cytoxin, etc., ever help to stop > the pain?...do these drugs truly put us into remission and stop the > pain from continuing to destroy us? > > > > I will not be starting my immunosuppresant therapy regimen until > 11/22. I really need to know. I can and will live with the current > pain I have in my spine, legs, feet as long as it ends there and as > long as pain medications continue to lessen it. My arms suddenly > became involved, too ... is it ever going to end?...or will every area > of my body which has a nerve linked to it become full of pain?... > > > > I know many of you, and from what I've read, especially Steve, has > much pain throughout his/her body. What, if anything, really works to > help the pain in form of pain meds, and what, if anything, really > stops this monster in its tracks? > > > > I know part of these questions regarding stopping the sarc are stupid > questions ... given that if anyone knew the answers, we would then > call it a cure ... I'm really needing answers so that I can start load > my battlepack (my mind) with the appropriate gear (acceptance, > understanding, tolerance) in this fight that I've only recently > learned I will need to battle. > > > > I had planned on one day returning to work and a normal, productive, > functioning, pain-free life. I was told yesterday to tell my boss, > who has been holding my job, anyway to tell him to go ahead and fill > my position ... that my prior beliefs that I only woke up to > yesterday, are not going to happen and that I need to rid my belief > that I will be able to return to my job, my old life, etc. > > > > How do I tell my parents that their baby girl is not going to improve > and will mostly like progress (I'm quoting my dr.'s). How do I tell > my Joe that he is the main person I will become completely dependent > on?...How do I tell him that no matter how many times he says the > ry, it's not going to change my physical state?...How do I tell > myself that I need to be strong when I am so weak...physically and > mentally?...How do I fight for a cure or hope someone else does in > this group, when I know we are all too sick? How do I tell God that > my faith is now in question? > > > > P.S. For those of you, including myself, who mention God ... God has > not answered my prayers ... I pray for all of you and all of the > world's sick children ... perhaps, it can only come in the answer of > the being able to accept and deal with it, but as I mentioned, I truly > am only in the very beginning of being able to learn how to do that. > It is hard to hear, say, understand, accept, etc., anything when your > body is riddled with pain. > > > > Joan > > > > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > > The Neurosarcoidosis Community > > > NS CHAT:- Has been cancelled for now. > > > Message Archives:- > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/messages > > > Members Database:- > > Listings of locations, phone numbers, and instant messengers. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/database > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 I wrote already with the play info. Neurontin is 800mg three times a day. I would love to be back on 900mg each dose and could, but that would mean three capsules (nine a day) versus one long honking pill (three a day). I take one mg of klonipin three times a day right with the neurontin. I've never had a dock that supports taking klonipin once a day (baclofen either). I'd really like to go back on baclofen to help with some of the weird muscle pain, jerking and " freezing. " Last time they took my reflexes I had NONE except in my left knee where I still had the same hyperreflexia -- I gave that doc a nice, swift kick in the gut that he didn't see coming. I'm sorry to have seen the gradual death of my ankles. I mean just plain dead, behind and on top. They don't do Babinski's anymore, and it's just as well. Guess that explains why I lost the ability to stand on my tiptoes again. Well. I can think of worse things. Much worse. It's funny that it hardly ever registers anymore when I fail parts of the neuro exam. I remember eight, nine years ago when I hope'd I fail things during the important state neuro exams for my Social Security docs. Here's a late night, who really cares anyway list of some of the things I can no longer do (or stuff I fail on physical tests) Make my left foot go in anything that resembles a circle, either way Make my right foot make an inward circle Purposefully make my toes place themselves on the opposing shin and slowly work their way down to the foot Have normal reactions in either knee to the reflex hammer (my right knee does nothing and my left leg shoots out like a rocket) I cannot touch my nose with my fingers from an outstretched arm at all while my eyes are closed, and only very slowly when they are opened. I cannot distinguish fingers being rubbed together at my ears. I can feel only pressure, not hot or cold or pain from my toes to my thighs and from my fingers to my " flabby " upper arms I cannot follow a finger or a pencil with both of my eyes without that thing becoming instantly double the second it moves. I cannot move my eyes up or down without great pain -- same with to the left. I cannot move them to the right at all -- I compensate by moving my head instead. I cannot turn my head forty five degrees and count backwards, therefore, my husband will no longer adjust my neck. Yes. Like most of you, the " cannots " list goes on and on. These are just some of the things I get reminded of so often during doctor exams that I have lost. Most of the time it doesn;t bother me. Sometimes it does. I don't have the luxury of going out to the car for a good cry after a doctoras appointment anymore, since I don't drive myself, so I usually excuse myself to the ladies room before we depart. I am embarrassed because my weeping has become so loud these days. I'm sorry for the well-meaning women who have to hear this coming from the closed stall door. I always here an offer of aid, and I always say, as politely as possible that no help is needed. And I wait until they leave until I exit my stall. I feel ashamed in my feeling of loss, always thinking of those poor souls in terrible conditions in poor countries with even poorer health care. I force a smile onto my and keep it there until I am home, in bed, alone. I can let down the corners of the fake smile, but the images of sick children on filthy floors stays with me always... until the next visit, where my weird reflexes never fail to elicit attempts at humor, and my ugly ballerina toes refuse to move on cue. > Hi, . I wrote it down for Friday; I think maybe you said that > was the best day. . . .? Can you give me time, location, cost, etc.? > Will you be able to go? What doses of Neurontin & Klonipin are you > taking? I'm on Neurontin 600mg 3x a day & Klonipin 1mg at bedtime. I > have the walker on several to-do lists & post-it notes. Maybe this > week I'll get it checked out. I think my insurance will cover 50%. > See you later, alligator! Rosie > Re: Does the pain ever go away? ... how do > I help myself when I can't?... > > > JOAN, > > After suffering impossibly with out of control neuralgia over most of > my body for eight years, I can truly say that THAT pain is finally > under control. I have to be careful, take my meds, stay away from heat > and stressors, but, yes, I have finally put it in its place for a good > long time for me. Yes, I have all sorts of other pain, a lot of it > really bad, but that was the only one that had me wishing I was dead > several times a week and I and my pain specialist finally have it > under control. > > There is always hope. Remember that, Joan. > > Lovingly, > > > > > To my Neuro group in physical pain, > > > > I need to know right now ... do all the drugs you have been put on, > meaning, the MTX, plaquenil, Imuran, Cytoxin, etc., ever help to stop > the pain?...do these drugs truly put us into remission and stop the > pain from continuing to destroy us? > > > > I will not be starting my immunosuppresant therapy regimen until > 11/22. I really need to know. I can and will live with the current > pain I have in my spine, legs, feet as long as it ends there and as > long as pain medications continue to lessen it. My arms suddenly > became involved, too ... is it ever going to end?...or will every area > of my body which has a nerve linked to it become full of pain?... > > > > I know many of you, and from what I've read, especially Steve, has > much pain throughout his/her body. What, if anything, really works to > help the pain in form of pain meds, and what, if anything, really > stops this monster in its tracks? > > > > I know part of these questions regarding stopping the sarc are stupid > questions ... given that if anyone knew the answers, we would then > call it a cure ... I'm really needing answers so that I can start load > my battlepack (my mind) with the appropriate gear (acceptance, > understanding, tolerance) in this fight that I've only recently > learned I will need to battle. > > > > I had planned on one day returning to work and a normal, productive, > functioning, pain-free life. I was told yesterday to tell my boss, > who has been holding my job, anyway to tell him to go ahead and fill > my position ... that my prior beliefs that I only woke up to > yesterday, are not going to happen and that I need to rid my belief > that I will be able to return to my job, my old life, etc. > > > > How do I tell my parents that their baby girl is not going to improve > and will mostly like progress (I'm quoting my dr.'s). How do I tell > my Joe that he is the main person I will become completely dependent > on?...How do I tell him that no matter how many times he says the > ry, it's not going to change my physical state?...How do I tell > myself that I need to be strong when I am so weak...physically and > mentally?...How do I fight for a cure or hope someone else does in > this group, when I know we are all too sick? How do I tell God that > my faith is now in question? > > > > P.S. For those of you, including myself, who mention God ... God has > not answered my prayers ... I pray for all of you and all of the > world's sick children ... perhaps, it can only come in the answer of > the being able to accept and deal with it, but as I mentioned, I truly > am only in the very beginning of being able to learn how to do that. > It is hard to hear, say, understand, accept, etc., anything when your > body is riddled with pain. > > > > Joan > > > > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > > The Neurosarcoidosis Community > > > NS CHAT:- Has been cancelled for now. > > > Message Archives:- > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/messages > > > Members Database:- > > Listings of locations, phone numbers, and instant messengers. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/database > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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