Re: help

October 5, 2009

, I've been thru this myself and after 'testing' my ability to weigh

myself, I finally figured out that this was plain old NOT a good idea at all.

For me, weighing is an EXternal factor and measurement that has nothing to do

with 1) my hunger levels 2) how I feel IN my body 3) my self esteem etc. etc.

etc. To help me stop putting myself thru these ups-n-downs (and unnecessarily at

that!), I (half) jokingly made a vow to not weigh myself until my pants fell

off. That hasn't happened - yet - but now I'm kind of thinking that I won't even

want to do it if/when that happens. I am NOT a # and no scale knows me well

enough to 'tell' me what I should 'be'. (lol)

Take care and give yourself a big hug! Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Hi all -

>

> I made a big mistake today, and got on the scale. I did it because I was

> going to the doctor, and I figured they were probably going to weigh me

> anyway so why not find out what my scale says, first. I've been doing IE

> since June, and I know I gained some weight at the beginning. I haven't

> gotten on the scale since July, and my clothes (meaning JEANS) fit the same,

> so I have been feeling good and figured my weight has stabilized. Wrong! I

> am 12 pounds up, since July 22. I was so surprised. I am already at a very

> high weight for me (236, my goal weight is 170) and while I'm very healthy

> and I work out, I am really feeling the extra pounds. My joints hurt and

> despite the fact that I lift weights weekly with a trainer and work hard at

> core strength, I have strained my back three times in the last month. (I

> have a wiggly 18 pound baby who is the cause of the back injuries).

>

> I'm not surprised that I gained weight at the beginning, but I thought my IE

> was going so well because of how I'm eating. I'm through my cake, cookies,

> ice cream and other " phases " and feel very apathetic about those foods. I'm

> starting to want vegetables and fruits again. I actually thought I might

> have lost weight, and that's partly why I had the nerve to get on the scale.

>

> For medical reasons, partly related to the doctor I went to today, I don't

> have all the time in the world to just keep on trusting IE and letting my

> weight be what it is. As long as I feel like my weight is going down, no

> matter how slowly, those medical issues will be addressed and I need that so

> badly. I know this is probably my only choice, since diets don't work at

> all for me (not even temporarily). But I'm so upset and confused. My

> trainer keeps asking me if the IE is " working " and I know that what she, and

> everyone, means is, am I losing weight? You and I know that IE is so much

> more than that, and that it IS working, because my relationship with food is

> so different. But if my weight is still going up, am I wrong? I always

> thought being " out of touch " with my own weight gain was a red flag that I

> was having food issues, but since my clothes feel the same I didn't think I

> was gaining. I thought weight loss was right around the corner and now I'm

> feeling all those old feelings of mistrust towards myself. I want so much

> to feel in tune with my body and not always feel that my body is betraying

> me.

>

> FYI, the doctor didn't pressure me about my weight; the medical part is I

> want to have another baby and I feel I can't go through another pregnancy

> when my body is already stressed by this extra weight.

>

> As you can tell I am freaking out. Please help?

>

October 5, 2009

you may want to make it CLEAR to the nurse that you do NOT want to hear

or see the # due to its detrimental effect on you. I did the stand on scale

backwards routine and the nurse said the # ANYWAY as she read it and noted it on

the chart. One of the other members here (Alana) has made it clear to her

doctor's nursing staff that she will not be weighed unless it is necessary for

prescribing medications AND then she doesn't want to know the #, just have it

noted (silently) on the chart.

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

>(I have a physical next month and I'm planning on facing away because I'm

feeling really positive right now and don't want the scale to bring me down).

> Best of luck!

> ~

October 5, 2009

Thanks for the advice! My doctors are aware of my eating disorder, it's in my

chart, and they've been understanding. The nurses who do the weight, blood

pressure, temperature part at the beginning of all appointments are always

different, don't know me, and won't have my chart in front of them. I will make

sure to be clear that I don't want to see or hear the number. Thanks!

~

> >

> >(I have a physical next month and I'm planning on facing away because I'm

feeling really positive right now and don't want the scale to bring me down).

> > Best of luck!

> > ~

>

October 5, 2009

Katcha, that is brilliant! I'm in... no weighing myself until my pants fall off.

I'm done!

Thank you sooooo much!!

October 6, 2009

I love this. Thank you. This is my experience with weighing myself too, sometimes if enough time goes by, i might think, oh, it's no big deal -- not so. it's always crazy making for me.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: jain_daugh@...Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:02:51 +0000Subject: Re: help

, I've been thru this myself and after 'testing' my ability to weigh myself, I finally figured out that this was plain old NOT a good idea at all. For me, weighing is an EXternal factor and measurement that has nothing to do with 1) my hunger levels 2) how I feel IN my body 3) my self esteem etc. etc. etc. To help me stop putting myself thru these ups-n-downs (and unnecessarily at that!), I (half) jokingly made a vow to not weigh myself until my pants fell off. That hasn't happened - yet - but now I'm kind of thinking that I won't even want to do it if/when that happens. I am NOT a # and no scale knows me well enough to 'tell' me what I should 'be'. (lol) Take care and give yourself a big hug! KatchaIEing since March 2007>> Hi all -> > > > I made a big mistake today, and got on the scale. I did it because I was> going to the doctor, and I figured they were probably going to weigh me> anyway so why not find out what my scale says, first. I've been doing IE> since June, and I know I gained some weight at the beginning. I haven't> gotten on the scale since July, and my clothes (meaning JEANS) fit the same,> so I have been feeling good and figured my weight has stabilized. Wrong! I> am 12 pounds up, since July 22. I was so surprised. I am already at a very> high weight for me (236, my goal weight is 170) and while I'm very healthy> and I work out, I am really feeling the extra pounds. My joints hurt and> despite the fact that I lift weights weekly with a trainer and work hard at> core strength, I have strained my back three times in the last month. (I> have a wiggly 18 pound baby who is the cause of the back injuries).> > I'm not surprised that I gained weight at the beginning, but I thought my IE> was going so well because of how I'm eating. I'm through my cake, cookies,> ice cream and other "phases" and feel very apathetic about those foods. I'm> starting to want vegetables and fruits again. I actually thought I might> have lost weight, and that's partly why I had the nerve to get on the scale.> > For medical reasons, partly related to the doctor I went to today, I don't> have all the time in the world to just keep on trusting IE and letting my> weight be what it is. As long as I feel like my weight is going down, no> matter how slowly, those medical issues will be addressed and I need that so> badly. I know this is probably my only choice, since diets don't work at> all for me (not even temporarily). But I'm so upset and confused. My> trainer keeps asking me if the IE is "working" and I know that what she, and> everyone, means is, am I losing weight? You and I know that IE is so much> more than that, and that it IS working, because my relationship with food is> so different. But if my weight is still going up, am I wrong? I always> thought being "out of touch" with my own weight gain was a red flag that I> was having food issues, but since my clothes feel the same I didn't think I> was gaining. I thought weight loss was right around the corner and now I'm> feeling all those old feelings of mistrust towards myself. I want so much> to feel in tune with my body and not always feel that my body is betraying> me.> > FYI, the doctor didn't pressure me about my weight; the medical part is I> want to have another baby and I feel I can't go through another pregnancy> when my body is already stressed by this extra weight. > > As you can tell I am freaking out. Please help?> > >

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October 6, 2009

I also told my doctor I didn't want to be weighed and that I wanted her to focus on other measures to determine my "health" or "risk" -- I was all ready to tell her a the rationale for not weighing me etc but there was no comment at all from the tech who normally weighed me. I mentioned that to the doctor and she said -- oh you'd be surprised how many women don't get weighed. i thought, well good, there's progress.

of course then she said, "if they are really obese I might push it but in your case...(where i am "overweight/on the low side of obese") I don't worry about it"...

Well, I guess it was a start. I didn't get weighed and they didn't give me any grief.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: jain_daugh@...Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:10:23 +0000Subject: Re: help

you may want to make it CLEAR to the nurse that you do NOT want to hear or see the # due to its detrimental effect on you. I did the stand on scale backwards routine and the nurse said the # ANYWAY as she read it and noted it on the chart. One of the other members here (Alana) has made it clear to her doctor's nursing staff that she will not be weighed unless it is necessary for prescribing medications AND then she doesn't want to know the #, just have it noted (silently) on the chart. BEST to you, KatchaIEing since March 2007>>(I have a physical next month and I'm planning on facing away because I'm feeling really positive right now and don't want the scale to bring me down). > Best of luck!> ~

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October 8, 2009

,

I have been where you are at several times throughout the 3 years I've been

doing IE.

I, like you, cannot weigh at all, AT ALL, withough spiraling down in my feeings

of self-acceptance, and in my intuition and peace with food. I'd love to talk

about your individual concerns, because, I think I've had them all myself.

Don't necessarily blame your weight on your pain. I'm a physical therapist, and

I can tell you that plenty of thin people have joint pain, as well. I find that

the strenuousness of my exercise has a lot to do with my joint pain, and that

was just as true when I was thin. I can also say that my joint pain that I've

had since high school, is much better now than it has ever been in my life, and

I am bigger now than I ever have been. That's not to say that extra weight

can't contribute, but there are so many other factors to consider. Why blame

the weight? Why even consider it? It is what it is. I try to just respect the

weight my body has decided it needs to be, and adjust other relevent factors,

like better shoes, less strenuous exercise, relaxation exercises.

Next, if your jeans still fit, and your working out, maybe you replaced adipose

with muscle mass. You could weigh more without actually taking up more space.

Plus, you could have been swollen for some reason. You thought maybe you'd lost

some weight. Maybe you did. Maybe your weight had been higher than it is now,

and you actually had lost a bit.

I'm from a family of large women. They all had pregnancies at weights like

you're talking about. They were strong and active and didn't have any problems.

You might want to read The Diet Myth, by Campos. It uncovers the myths

about the connection between your weight and your health. It really helped me

make peace with my body.

Hang in there. I've been exactly where you are. You can get back on track and

get centered again.

Another side issue, I don't know that having a goal weight will help you make

peace with food. At this point, I try to put my focus on enjoying whatever

weight my body decides to be, now and in the future.

Good luck,

Sara