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Lyssa,

My ins. is London Health/Health care value management. told me to write

a very strong letter to the Ins. people. Also that Dr. Thayer will also write

a letter on my behalf. I have already called my regualr Dr. who refered me to

Dr.Thayer to write me a letter stating why I need this surgery. When I talked

to and then my Ins. I felt as if my heart had been ripped out...I

cryied like hell and couldn't breathe. All I want is my life back...ya know?

Thank You so much for your help and I will talk to this lawyer...

Thanks again...

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Joni,

Thank you so much... I'll do anything that will prove that being 137lbs over

weight and having a bmi of 42 is not healthy and asking for a surgery to help

me is not " cosmentic " .

Thanks again..

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I am so sorry to hear about your insurance. Does you insurer have a review board. I would call them and tell them that their decision is unacceptable and that you want it to go before a board. Ask them what type of documentation they need from you. I did not have to do this, but I'm sure their are others on-line who had similar experiences.

Hugs,

Joni - Dr. Thayer 11/27/00

-----Original Message-----From: nnasheart@... Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:41 PMTo: OSSG-NewEngland Subject: HELPHELP!!! I have received a call from at Dr. Thayers office today. It seems my insurance has denied my surgery! She is trying to help me make them change their minds about it, but I honestly have no hope any more of having this surgery. My ins. has said that this surgery is "cosmetic" and not necessary...which I find to be nothing but a pile of dog shit. Like I just suddenly chose to have major surgery so I could be skinny...What a joke! If anyone out there has any ideas that might help me.. I would greatly appreciate any and all ideas.Thank you all in advance....

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Ask them to put the denial in writing to you & the reasons for it. Also get

a copy of your benefits health plan book to see what is says for coverage on

wls. Who is your insurer?

Once you have that info I'd get Dr. T to write a letter explaining why its

not cosmetic and how it is life saving. APPEAL they count on you not

appealing and most peope win on appeal. You could also talk to an obesity

lawyer named Walter Lindstrom http://www.obesitylaw.com/

HELP

HELP!!! I have received a call from at Dr. Thayers office today. It

seems my insurance has denied my surgery! She is trying to help me make them

change their minds about it, but I honestly have no hope any more of having

this surgery. My ins. has said that this surgery is " cosmetic " and not

necessary...which I find to be nothing but a pile of dog shit. Like I just

suddenly chose to have major surgery so I could be skinny...What a joke! If

anyone out there has any ideas that might help me.. I would greatly

appreciate any and all ideas.

Thank you all in advance....

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Sorry to hear about that. :( Who's your insurance company? Perhaps

someone else who has been denied and appealed and won can give you some

advice. I'm still waiting for approval myself...

-- S.

HELP

HELP!!! I have received a call from at Dr. Thayers office today. It

seems my insurance has denied my surgery! She is trying to help me make them

change their minds about it, but I honestly have no hope any more of having

this surgery. My ins. has said that this surgery is " cosmetic " and not

necessary...which I find to be nothing but a pile of dog shit. Like I just

suddenly chose to have major surgery so I could be skinny...What a joke! If

anyone out there has any ideas that might help me.. I would greatly

appreciate any and all ideas.

Thank you all in advance....

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I don't know if London Health/Health care value management is different than

just

Health Care Value Management but I found this at the www.obesityhelp.com

If Im not mistaken Kshort is on our list so perhaps she can help out further

Lyssa

Health Care Value Management

Approved after appeal letter (09/29/00)

Open RNY

Weeks to approval : 3+

Pre-Op BMI : 45.8

Comorbidities : GERD, arthritis, joint pain, depression

Policy : Must be medically necessary

Comments : All dealings were professional. I think it payed off to be

persistent. It may be that they always wait for an appeal to approve this

type of surgery. I recommend that if you have this insurance that you gather

all your information on your weight struggle and past attempts to lose

weight. Have as much documentation as possible and be prepared to use it if

necessary.

Source: kshort1100@...

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, Might i ask what your current stats are? I am thinking about the

surgery and wondering what the threshhold is?

Thanks

Joe

>From: nnasheart@...

>Reply-To: OSSG-NewEngland

>To: OSSG-NewEngland

>Subject: HELP

>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:41:09 EST

>

>HELP!!! I have received a call from at Dr. Thayers office today. It

>seems my insurance has denied my surgery! She is trying to help me make

>them

>change their minds about it, but I honestly have no hope any more of having

>this surgery. My ins. has said that this surgery is " cosmetic " and not

>necessary...which I find to be nothing but a pile of dog shit. Like I just

>suddenly chose to have major surgery so I could be skinny...What a joke! If

>anyone out there has any ideas that might help me.. I would greatly

>appreciate any and all ideas.

>

>Thank you all in advance....

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Who is your insurance hon?

nnasheart@... wrote:

HELP!!! I have received a call from at

Dr. Thayers office today. It

seems my insurance has denied my surgery! She is trying to help

me make them

change their minds about it, but I honestly have no hope any more

of having

this surgery. My ins. has said that this surgery is "cosmetic"

and not

necessary...which I find to be nothing but a pile of dog shit.

Like I just

suddenly chose to have major surgery so I could be skinny...What

a joke! If

anyone out there has any ideas that might help me.. I would

greatly

appreciate any and all ideas.

Thank you all in advance....

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I have HealthCareValue Management/MedTac I called and they told me if was covered if it was medically necessary. I do not know where you worked and I know each plan is different. Mine is watched by MedTac. How much is cobra. Could you not pay it until your appeal is over

Re: HELPMy insurance is Health Care value management...

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I'm so sorry to hear of your shitty day, BUT...like lots have told you,

contact Walter L to fight this for you. He's very well known in achieving

many positive results from what I've heard. Don't worry...feel free to

mention my name to the insurance carriers, I'll be sure to prove this

surgery is the BEST thing for the morbidly obese!

Dawn

HELP

HELP!!! I have received a call from at Dr. Thayers office today. It

seems my insurance has denied my surgery! She is trying to help me make them

change their minds about it, but I honestly have no hope any more of having

this surgery. My ins. has said that this surgery is " cosmetic " and not

necessary...which I find to be nothing but a pile of dog shit. Like I just

suddenly chose to have major surgery so I could be skinny...What a joke! If

anyone out there has any ideas that might help me.. I would greatly

appreciate any and all ideas.

Thank you all in advance....

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If you saw the info I posted earlier they have paid upon appeal in at least

2 cases. Kshort is on our list with individual emails perhaps she'll post

soon for you

lyssa

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My insurance is Health Care value management...

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My thoughts are with you and I hope this will not be a battle for you.

Don't let them discourage you. Pam

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:13:52 -0200 " cagriff2 " writes:

> I have HealthCareValue Management/MedTac I called and they told

> me if was covered if it was medically necessary. I do not know

> where you worked and I know each plan is different. Mine is watched

> by MedTac. How much is cobra. Could you not pay it until your

> appeal is over

> Re: HELP

>

>

> My insurance is Health Care value management...

>

>

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Hi my name is Carole and I was wondering if you have been approved. I have health care value management/medtac. I called and they said if it was medically necessary. How have you made out

Re: HELPMy insurance is Health Care value management...

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Carole,

I haven't heard a word yet. My regular doctor and I sent a letter to at

Dr. Thayers office and from what I understand Dr. Thayer himself will also be

righting a letter stating that this surgery for me is medically necessary.

One advantage for you though is that I have London Health/Health Care value

management. You might have an easier time being approved.

Good luck to you...

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Carole,

I don't work...My husband works at the A & P and this insurance is all new to

me. Wow..oxygen. I've heard a few people needing it but just think..after

your surgery and some weight loss you wont need anything. I hoestly hope you

dont now. I think the London Health is just the type of plan I have. But as

far as I know all Health Care values are connected. Well, keep me posted as

to what's going on with you and I will do the same...

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I hope we both have a chance to get this done. I was just told today that the doctor wants me to have oxygen in the house to use when I sleep. They said my oxygen level was so low. I cannot even think that I could have got to this stage. I do not think I will be having oxygen. I just cannot stand the thought of it. I hope I get approved. Good luck to you also. Where do you work I have never heard of London Health? Are they a managment company to watch over you insurance?

Re: HELPCarole,I haven't heard a word yet. My regular doctor and I sent a letter to at Dr. Thayers office and from what I understand Dr. Thayer himself will also be righting a letter stating that this surgery for me is medically necessary. One advantage for you though is that I have London Health/Health Care value management. You might have an easier time being approved.Good luck to you...

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I sleep on a cpap machine with an extra machine for oxygen and it really

helps alot. If I sleep without using it for a month my color gets bad and I

have even less energy...and I heal alot slower. It really helps alot if you

need it. Also without it I become enemic. Ick.

-- S.

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Carole,

I don't work...My husband works at the A & P and this insurance is all new

to

me. Wow..oxygen. I've heard a few people needing it but just think..after

your surgery and some weight loss you wont need anything. I hoestly hope you

dont now. I think the London Health is just the type of plan I have. But as

far as I know all Health Care values are connected. Well, keep me posted as

to what's going on with you and I will do the same...

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Yes I was approved and had my surgery on 12/28/00. Everything is going very well. I have lost about 35 pounds and it has only been 7 weeks today. Let me know how it goes for you.

Thinner days ahead,

Kim

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