moducare

June 25, 2000

I recently started taking a product called Moducare

and actually can feel it working. Its suppose to

balance back the immune system. I bought it at

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com for a great price.

For more info go to http://www.moducare.com

Also, I recently posted a question regarding

Proamatine for low blood pressure. Has anyone else

ever taken it??

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August 21, 2000

My husband takes it for a totally different reason than cancer. He has an

autoimmune disorder that has resulted in a bile duct disease, primary

sclerosing cholangitis.....so he has started on that a few weeks ago and

does feel a difference in the way he feels....I have noticed a difference in

the way he has been also since starting it. For the first few days he was

tired but that passed and from there it has been on the upswing.

Patti

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>Hi, I just found out about Moducare, sterinol immune system supplement and

>wonder if anyone has any positive information on it.

>

>thank you,

>

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January 19, 2001

Hi Jill -

Yes, I have been taking Moducare for about 6-7 months.

I did notice an improvement in energy and reduction

in infections at first. I'm discontinuing it now

because my doctors want me to try to reduce the total

load on my liver (my ALT function is elevated), so I'm

trying to take a baseline of meds and supplements to

ease liver stress.

I think Moducare is a safe product and I didn't

experience any side effects with it. Now I'll have to

see how I do without it!

Good luck! Jennie

--- Starlet444@... wrote:

> Hi Jennie. I remember you had mention that you take

> Moducare. Have you seen a

> big improvement in your condition?

> I was thinking of adding it to my list of other

> supplements.

> Sometimes I just don't know what to take anymore.

> And sometimes when I read some of the posts on this

> lists on what people are

> taking it gets kinda scary.

> I called Moducare and they told me they are

> switching from soy to pine.

> I asked them where they get the pine from and now it

> is from france, was

> south africa.

> They told me after a tree is cut down they take out

> some stuff from it (I

> have no clue to the process, but I asked them what

> about pesticides or

> anything used on these

> trees and they told me they do not look into that).

> Sorry if I rambled a little, I am just scared of

> what this illness is doing

> to the body in the longrun.

> Thanks

> Jill

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August 10, 2001

Hi Vilik;

I haven't tried it but I've just read " The Immune System Cure: Nature's Way

To Superpowered Health " by Lorna R. Vanderhaeghe and J.D. Bouic.

Lorna is co-author of Udo's Erasmus' book " Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill " .

I'd highly recommend this book to anyone. Seems sterols and sterolins will

alleviate a wide range of problems. Moducare Sterinol, a blend and the

authors' choice, is about $75 a bottle in Canada. They've got to get the

price down or few people will look at it.

ciao

Duncan

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Hi Vilik;

I haven't tried it but I've just read " The Immune System Cure: Nature's Way

To Superpowered Health " by Lorna R. Vanderhaeghe and J.D. Bouic.

Lorna is co-author of Udo's Erasmus' book " Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill " .

I'd highly recommend this book to anyone. Seems sterols and sterolins will

alleviate a wide range of problems. Moducare Sterinol, a blend and the

authors' choice, is about $75 a bottle in Canada. They've got to get the

price down or few people will look at it.

ciao

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August 10, 2001

Dear Duncan,

Lorna and Udo are good friends, but she didn't

coauthor his book on fats and oils. It was actually his

PhD thesis on nutrition, originally.

She coauthored the book on sterolins, as you have said.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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Subject: Re: moducare

Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:42:09 -0700

Hi Vilik;

I haven't tried it but I've just read " The Immune System Cure: Nature's Way

To Superpowered Health " by Lorna R. Vanderhaeghe and J.D. Bouic.

Lorna is co-author of Udo's Erasmus' book " Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill " .

I'd highly recommend this book to anyone. Seems sterols and sterolins will

alleviate a wide range of problems. Moducare Sterinol, a blend and the

authors' choice, is about $75 a bottle in Canada. They've got to get the

price down or few people will look at it.

ciao

Duncan

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Dear Duncan,

Lorna and Udo are good friends, but she didn't

coauthor his book on fats and oils. It was actually his

PhD thesis on nutrition, originally.

She coauthored the book on sterolins, as you have said.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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Subject: Re: moducare

Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:42:09 -0700

Hi Vilik;

I haven't tried it but I've just read " The Immune System Cure: Nature's Way

To Superpowered Health " by Lorna R. Vanderhaeghe and J.D. Bouic.

Lorna is co-author of Udo's Erasmus' book " Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill " .

I'd highly recommend this book to anyone. Seems sterols and sterolins will

alleviate a wide range of problems. Moducare Sterinol, a blend and the

authors' choice, is about $75 a bottle in Canada. They've got to get the

price down or few people will look at it.

ciao

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December 7, 2001

I live in South Africa & wouldn't mind helping out ...

--- vivaciousbernie <bernice.louw@...> wrote:

> Hi Debbie

>

> The product is called Moducare Sterinol and consists

> of Magnesium

> Silicate, gelatine and plant sterols and sterolins.

> Everybody I know

> who uses it swears by its effectiveness. It won't

> change the way you

> feel physically but it will prevent you from geeting

> ill as well as

> helping you to get over illnesses. After being

> chronically ill and on

> anti biotics for 3.5 to 4 years I was completely

> surprised when I

> made it through the whole winter without even a

> sniffle. I was one of

> those peolpe who had to spend a week in bed just to

> get over a flu

> injection.

>

> You can purchase it over the internet - may

> stock it (but you

> will have to ask him). I am in the UK now and get it

> sent directly to

> me from South Africa but you can purchase it on

> websites like

> www.vitamin-planet.com and

> www.americannutrition.com. Although the

> prices seem quite extravagant. If I remeber

> correctly about 300 pills

> costs about R70 in South Africa which is about $7 -

> I see they are

> quoting prices in the region of $30. It is amazing

> how people get

> ripped off in the States and the UK on vitamin

> prices. Maybe if you

> ask one of the other South Africans on the list (who

> is living there)

> to post it to you it will work out cheaper.Hope this

> helps

>

> Bernie

>

> -- In @y..., Debbie Metrustry <dmtrstry@i...>

> wrote:

> > Woah! More info about this product please!

> Where what one get it

> > and what's in it?

> > I have CFS and a very weak immune system despite

> my supplements

> thus far.

> > Debbie

> >

> > At 3:17 pm +0000 6/12/01, vivaciousbernie wrote:

> > >I use a product called Moducare. It was developed

> in South Africa

> to

> > >help boost the immune system of AIDS patients and

> contains only

> plant

> > >sterols. I use to have chronic bronchitis and

> tonsilitis and was on

> > >antibiotics 6 to 9 times a year. Since I have

> started taking

> Moducare

> > >I have not needed antibiotics even once and

> whenever I feel a cold

> > >coming on I take a double dose before I go to

> sleep and the next

> > >morning its gone.

> > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > really tired!

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Hi all,

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I've been away and just caught up with

> all your talk

> > >> > > on teas etc.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > For the past 10 days I have been very

> tired and

>

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December 7, 2001

it is available here in the states.

Re: Moducare

I live in South Africa & wouldn't mind helping out ...

--- vivaciousbernie <bernice.louw@...> wrote:

> Hi Debbie

>

> The product is called Moducare Sterinol and consists

> of Magnesium

> Silicate, gelatine and plant sterols and sterolins.

> Everybody I know

> who uses it swears by its effectiveness. It won't

> change the way you

> feel physically but it will prevent you from geeting

> ill as well as

> helping you to get over illnesses. After being

> chronically ill and on

> anti biotics for 3.5 to 4 years I was completely

> surprised when I

> made it through the whole winter without even a

> sniffle. I was one of

> those peolpe who had to spend a week in bed just to

> get over a flu

> injection.

>

> You can purchase it over the internet - may

> stock it (but you

> will have to ask him). I am in the UK now and get it

> sent directly to

> me from South Africa but you can purchase it on

> websites like

> www.vitamin-planet.com and

> www.americannutrition.com. Although the

> prices seem quite extravagant. If I remeber

> correctly about 300 pills

> costs about R70 in South Africa which is about $7 -

> I see they are

> quoting prices in the region of $30. It is amazing

> how people get

> ripped off in the States and the UK on vitamin

> prices. Maybe if you

> ask one of the other South Africans on the list (who

> is living there)

> to post it to you it will work out cheaper.Hope this

> helps

>

> Bernie

>

> -- In @y..., Debbie Metrustry <dmtrstry@i...>

> wrote:

> > Woah! More info about this product please!

> Where what one get it

> > and what's in it?

> > I have CFS and a very weak immune system despite

> my supplements

> thus far.

> > Debbie

> >

> > At 3:17 pm +0000 6/12/01, vivaciousbernie wrote:

> > >I use a product called Moducare. It was developed

> in South Africa

> to

> > >help boost the immune system of AIDS patients and

> contains only

> plant

> > >sterols. I use to have chronic bronchitis and

> tonsilitis and was on

> > >antibiotics 6 to 9 times a year. Since I have

> started taking

> Moducare

> > >I have not needed antibiotics even once and

> whenever I feel a cold

> > >coming on I take a double dose before I go to

> sleep and the next

> > >morning its gone.

> > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > really tired!

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Hi all,

> > >> > >

> > >> > > I've been away and just caught up with

> all your talk

> > >> > > on teas etc.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > For the past 10 days I have been very

> tired and

>

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December 7, 2001

Dekany wrote:

> it is available here in the states.

Where, dearest ?

December 7, 2001

health food stores

Re: Moducare

Dekany wrote:

> it is available here in the states.

Where, dearest ?

December 7, 2001

Hey :

What happened to the sun?

(it was sooo gorgeous yesterday!)

:>(

Anyway, I noticed in the subject line " Moducare " , but I didn't read the

posts. However, I did do a search on " Moducare " , and read some incredible

info on this product, which is made of STEROLS and STEROLINS from PINE.

My question is - doesn't Dr. D have a product made from pine also? I wonder

if it has the same STERO/by-products?

Best wishes,

karenb

Re: Moducare

>

> Dekany wrote:

>

> > it is available here in the states.

>

> Where, dearest ?

>

December 7, 2001

Hi Osss:

I just read the posts on Moducare. Sounds like pretty amazing stuff. I

cudda sworn Dr. D has a product w/pine in it.

karenb

Re: Moducare

> >

> > Dekany wrote:

> >

> > > it is available here in the states.

> >

> > Where, dearest ?

> >

March 9, 2002

Hi All -

I have been on Moducare on and off for about two

years. I feel more energetic when I am on it and

don't get the butterfly rash or visible crimson

cresent on my face when I take it. When I stop the

rash comes back within two weeks and my energy level

drops dramatically. That's all the evidence I have

that it is working but it is enough for me - I take it

all the time now, two pills when I get up an hour

before breakfast and two pills at bedtime on an empty

stomach.

Best, Jennie

--- wrote:

> 8. Re: MGN-3 and Moducare

> From: duckblossm@...

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November 30, 2002

,

I also have Hashi's. Is cleaning the liver something I should be

doing on a regular basis?

How do you feel this Moducare has helped you with dealing with

Hashi's at all or what Hashi's does to your body?

P.

>

> I saw Moducare mentioned in a post. I've been taking it for the

last

> six months. Just so you know, they make a commercial grade and a

> professional grade - try and get the professional grade, which is

> referred as " extra strength " . I also understand that Moducare

becomes

> more effective when used over a long period of time.

>

> The book: " Healthy Immunity " by Lorna R. Vanderhaeghe reviews

> Moducare, although I wonder if she's being paid for it. She has a

> website out there somewhere - it also seems to promote Moducare.

>

> However, her book convinced me about the effective use of plant

> sterols and sterolins and Moducare seems to be the best product on

> the market.

>

> with Hashi's

December 1, 2002

> I also have Hashi's. Is cleaning the liver something I should be

> doing on a regular basis?

I don't know - although it comes up as a recommendation a lot. I

would think the only way one could clean a liver would be to alter

one's diet. I've read about " liver " flushes but never tried one.

> How do you feel this Moducare has helped you with dealing with

> Hashi's at all or what Hashi's does to your body?

I am feeling a whole lot better than when I was first diagnosed.

However, I'm doing so many alternative things - it's hard for me to

say that the improvement is just because of moducare. And I don't

think moducare can just be used on it's own.

Apparently, moducare is good for inflammatory conditions. Sterols and

sterolins (plant nutrients) such as moducare, can regulate the immune

function and supposidly can control autoantibody reactions.

December 1, 2002

All of us benefit from cleansing or detoxing regularly. There are lots of

different methods out there, too. There is a Dr. Cabot who has a book

called The Liver Cleansing Diet which would be more gradual and not as hard

on your system as a liquid fasting cleanse (which I've done many many times,

but not in the past few years). I have thought of trying that - but you

give up butter for a while and I have to work myself up for it. Its a

program for several weeks at a time of a certain way of eating. You can

also eat raw for at least a day a week (nothing but - cleansing fruits and

veggies only). In fact - I think that is at least what I will do! I am not

up to a full blown cleanse and am frankly not in the mood to flush (have

before). There are ways to cleanse on the websites at the bottom of every

email from this list, too. Also Milk thistle and dandelion are a couple of

herbs that are good for the liver. There are others. Jeanie

Re: Moducare

> I also have Hashi's. Is cleaning the liver something I should be

> doing on a regular basis?

I don't know - although it comes up as a recommendation a lot. I

would think the only way one could clean a liver would be to alter

one's diet. I've read about " liver " flushes but never tried one.

> How do you feel this Moducare has helped you with dealing with

> Hashi's at all or what Hashi's does to your body?

I am feeling a whole lot better than when I was first diagnosed.

However, I'm doing so many alternative things - it's hard for me to

say that the improvement is just because of moducare. And I don't

think moducare can just be used on it's own.

Apparently, moducare is good for inflammatory conditions. Sterols and

sterolins (plant nutrients) such as moducare, can regulate the immune

function and supposidly can control autoantibody reactions.

April 4, 2003

Hi ! Geoff here.

You wrote:

" (a plant sterols and sterolins product)... "

For information on plant sterols and sterolins, you may want to read the

article(s) at www.healingyou.org > Articles > Sterols & Sterolins.

Geoff

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April 5, 2003

hi again,

the knowledgeable owner of our health food store

said that Moducare was the first product of its kind

in the marketplace and that she now recommends

another one that is more potent. it is called,

" STEROLS & STEROLINS " made by New Roots

Herbal. this is a canadian brand from quebec. i'm going

to try it. the " new roots herbal " website is under construction

at the moment: www.newrootsherbal.com

heather

May 18, 2003

Patty,

more info on moducare here www.moducare.com ... but watch out you may

all fall into a big whole as the site includes advertísing... and

we all know about the powers of that, don't we (so what's to worry

about).

There you can find links to research and medline abstracts.

Plant sterols are what you may find in olive oil, the fatty/waxy

components. There is a lot of high powered medical research done as

they are used to lower cholesterol and have recently been found to be

benficial in Alzheimer's Disease. Usually they are administered in

their chemical form - I think the drug is called sitosterol - a

freaky version was this non fat olestra stuff. I translated several

study reports on this from the uni where I work in the last couple of

months. It's a promising field but medical study so far has been

carried out mainly in animal models (rats and guinea pigs). I have

not found any links on plant sterols and autoimmunity but I will ask

the sterol man at the uni when I see him the next time. My own doctor

(who is a general doctor as well as a qualified naturopath) is

reluctant and wants to wait for more research to show whether immune

balance is differenzt fom immune enhancing - not something desirable

for our compromised immune systems. Anyway, my staple fat is olive

oil and olives, the only source of fat I can digest without trouble.

Hope this helps,

Sophie

In , " J. "

<scott_p@b...> wrote:

> Jenn, I still want to know what moducare is?

>

May 18, 2003

Sophie, Thanks, this is interesting. I excerpted some of the data from the

site. It certainly looks like they are trying to be responsible, I was first

under the impression this was an alternative medicine, it looks like a

natural medication [like urso/actigall which is a synthetic black bear

bile].

It says it it for:

" Daily stress

Runny nose, itchy eyes

Minor joint pain / stiffness

Fatigue

Minor digestive problems

Feeling run down

Dizziness / brain fog

Frequent urination

Premature aging

Mild depression

Slow recovery / over-training "

It then says:

" If you said 'yes' to any of the above, your immune system needs to be

restored, strengthened and balanced " .

I don't like the STRENGTHENED...

.............But then there is an interesting article......................

''Autoimmunity – when your body turns on itself'' by Bouic, PhD,

Healthy Immunity First Edition

Lupus, psoriasis and rheumatoid arthritis are just a few of the many

autoimmune diseases that cause debilitating illness. Until recently,

treatment options were few and many had serious side effects. Standard

medical treatments keep the immune system suppressed, increasing the risk of

cancer and infectious diseases.

Now a simple complex of plant fats has changed all that. Sterols and

sterolins now offer relief of autoimmune symptoms. Inflammation, pain and

destruction of body tissues are stopped in their tracks by these powerful

plant nutrients.

Reseachers believe that stress, viral infections, poor nutrition and

pollution play a role in the development of autoimmune diseases causing the

immune system to become confused and attack the very body it is supposed to

protect.

Complex sequences of events take place on a minute-to-minute basis as our

immune system protects us from invaders. Several important cells make up

this system, but two types of T helper cells, Th-1 and Th-2, determine

whether we become ill or stay healthy. When Th-1 cell function is low our

ability to fight off cancer, bacteria and viruses is reduced. And when Th-2

cell function is high our production of antibodies is increased and

secretion of Interleukin-6, a powerful inflammatory factor, also increases.

Both these factors are implicated in the development and progression of

autoimmune disease. The key to health is keeping Th-1 and Th-2 cells in

harmonious balance.

Scientists in South Africa have found a way to naturally balance the

activity of these cells using a proprietary blend of plant sterols and

sterolins. Several double-blind, placebo controlled studies have shown that

sterols and sterolins in the correct ratio will keep Th-1 cells functioning

at their optimal level and keep Th-2 cells from over producing antibodies

and inflammatory agents such as Interleukin-6. Inflammation decreases, pain

subsides and damaged tissues begin to heal. As symptoms subside, many of

those with lupus, rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune disorders find

their joy of life returns as they can again take part in normal daily

activities.

......................this part of the article caught my

eye.......................

To date, no drug-drug interactions have been observed in patients using

Moducare®. It is advisable for patients to inform their clinicians of their

intention to use this supplement. It has to be understood that it does not

replace conventional medication, especially those used for life-threatening

diseases. Moducare® should be viewed as an adjunct to help shift the immune

responses to a more balanced status and to control chronic inflammation.

At present, patients having received solid organ or tissue transplants

should avoid the use of this immune modulator. This is based on the ability

of the sterols/sterolins in the current formulation to promote cellular

immune mechanisms, the same mechanisms being responsible for graft

rejection.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>I read things with a jaded eye sometimes. Remember I have a

transplant. It sounds like there are some cautionary alerts; that the

effect on people who want to suppress their immune systems is not understood

enough to encourage use of this drug. It's worth some discussion, remember I

am not the norm in this group, I want to suppress my immune system as much

as I can without being a host to the types of bacterias and viruses that

will kill me. But before the transplant I wanted to heal after the

flare-ups...

Interesting drug. I will be interested in hearing from some of you that

tried it.

Patty

[ ] Re: Moducare

Patty,

more info on moducare here www.moducare.com ... but watch out you may

all fall into a big whole as the site includes advertísing... and we all

know about the powers of that, don't we (so what's to worry

about).

There you can find links to research and medline abstracts. Plant sterols

are what you may find in olive oil, the fatty/waxy