Re: Need polysaccharides for probiotic to be viable?

[Guest guest]

I will pass this quote along to Elaine and post her reply.

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 17 months

[Guest guest]

Dear Jody,

Thank you! - I'm very grateful and eagerly (but patiently!) await

Elaine's reply.

[Guest guest]

" Does this mean that it is possible that ingesting " Acidophilus

Powder " will not really be helpful for my son's gut afterall,

because the bacteria won't actually be alive anymore "

Not sure. What I do know is that yoghurt is the best carrier for

probiotics. We've seen it here. We also gave the single acidophilus,

but nothing substantial happened. Upon starting the (nut) yoghurt,

my son's poop got better and better. Any yoghurt will do (within SCD

of course 24 hr fermentation).

Marjan

Netherlands

[Guest guest]

Did anyone see an answer regarding Pangborn's feeling about

probiotics? As I'm still learning about this, I thought the response

would be very helpful.

Lainie

> Hello!

> -My 13 yr old son is high functioning autism (had problems with

> raging)

> -We have been on strict SCD for 3.5 months - have already seen

> significant progress

> -Were GFCF for a few months before that, but son was cheating at

> school, and so progress was sporadic

> -We are still dairy-free and are just now wanting to add in the non-

> dairy probiotic " Acidophilus Powder " from Custom Probiotics for a

few

> weeks, before taking the leap to introduce the homemade goat yogurt.

>

> However, just before Christmas 2003, the following quote from Jon

> Pangborn, PhD, was included in the ANDI newsletter's discussion on

> the SCD: " Please note that some nutritional supplements, especially

> probiotics, are not efficacious or viable without some included

> sugars, including disaccharides or polysaccharides, in relatively

> small amounts. Otherwise the probiotics will be 'dead on arrival,'

> and the bad bugs can take back their territory. "

>

> My question is this:

> Does this mean that it is possible that ingesting " Acidophilus

> Powder " will not really be helpful for my son's gut afterall,

because

> the bacteria won't actually be alive anymore, since it hasn't any

> disaccharides or polysaccharides to feed it?

>

> I am hoping someone can pass this quote and question on to someone

> who knows a lot about probiotics and can comment on them.

>

> Thank you so much!

[Guest guest]

Lainie,

I did contact Elaine, I just forgot to post her reply. My apologies.

Pangborn's statement:

" Please note that some nutritional supplements, especially

probiotics, are not efficacious or viable without some included

sugars, including disaccharides or polysaccharides, in relatively

small amounts. Otherwise the probiotics will be 'dead on

arrival,'and the bad bugs can take back their territory. "

Here is what Elaine wrote in repsonse to your question:

" There is some truth in this statement and that is why I have

always approved of a bit of lactose in probiotics. I doubt if the

lactobacillus, etc. will be " dead " - they are in a freeze dried state

in the probiotic and are not metabolizing anyhow. But once they

are " resucciatated " by the conditions of the human intestine,

they do well on a bit of lactose. It is only a minuscule amount

and will be consumed by the lactobacilli in the probiotic. "

This would NOT mean that Elaine agrees that FOS or inulin

should be added to the probiotics though.

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 18 months