Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/4/2004 9:03:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

wolfiebear@... writes:

> They ran some tests and came back and suggested that my problem

> could be that I was on Armour thyroid and that maybe was coming down with

> something too.

i'm speechless....

cindi

[Guest guest]

How can I add one to the " GIVE ME A BREAK " files? I have one that is

poetically funny (sad)

Extremely ill and having gastric pains too, I went to emergency and upon

querying, told them that I took no medictaons other than a natural thyroid

supplement. They ran some tests and came back and suggested that my problem

could be that I was on Armour thyroid and that maybe was coming down with

something too. They said that I should stop taking the thyroid and sent me

home. I could hardly walk out and was running into walls at this point.

Several days later I ended up in a different hospital where I lost part of

my kidney due to abcessing from a severe ecoli infection. I was hospitalized

for 10 days and they nearly lost me...imagine - and the first emergency room

said I should stop taking the thyroid as it was probably my problem.

[Guest guest]

I would get a copy of your file from the first hospital than run as

fast as you can to a lawyer!!!! And maybe report them to whatever

agency you can. That is about as bogus as it gets. (IF you were

having clear hyper symtoms I could see them saying stop the Armour

but that would be about the only time. Or maybe an allergic reaction

to it. )

Louise

> How can I add one to the " GIVE ME A BREAK " files? I have one that is

> poetically funny (sad)

>

> Extremely ill and having gastric pains too, I went to emergency and

upon

> querying, told them that I took no medictaons other than a natural

thyroid

> supplement. They ran some tests and came back and suggested that my

problem

> could be that I was on Armour thyroid and that maybe was coming

down with

> something too. They said that I should stop taking the thyroid and

sent me

> home. I could hardly walk out and was running into walls at this

point.

>

> Several days later I ended up in a different hospital where I lost

part of

> my kidney due to abcessing from a severe ecoli infection. I was

hospitalized

> for 10 days and they nearly lost me...imagine - and the first

emergency room

> said I should stop taking the thyroid as it was probably my problem.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Louise,

This happened a little over 3 years ago. Is it too late?

I brought it up to my brother's wife before and she said that since it was

only an emergency ward, that they are not very responsible for things like

that, that " stuff happens " . You really think I have some sort of case here?

Sorry if I am sounding whimpy here, but I have been struggling for my life

for the last year, and my brother (trustee of my trust account and only

source of income for me right now) totally does not believe in mercury

toxicity, and anything not in medical reports. If my blood tests do not show

thyroid problems, then I won't be believed there either. I am really over a

barrel here.

What counts do you think I could sue on? Have you any experience in

something like this? I already filed for bankruptcy because of the ensuing

hospitalization....

Any input or comments appreciated.

~Inga

on 11/4/04 7:09 PM, lestatl382 at LestatL382@... wrote:

I would get a copy of your file from the first hospital than run as

fast as you can to a lawyer!!!! And maybe report them to whatever

agency you can. That is about as bogus as it gets. (IF you were

having clear hyper symtoms I could see them saying stop the Armour

but that would be about the only time. Or maybe an allergic reaction

to it. )

Louise

> How can I add one to the " GIVE ME A BREAK " files? I have one that is

> poetically funny (sad)

>

> Extremely ill and having gastric pains too, I went to emergency and

upon

> querying, told them that I took no medictaons other than a natural

thyroid

> supplement. They ran some tests and came back and suggested that my

problem

> could be that I was on Armour thyroid and that maybe was coming

down with

> something too. They said that I should stop taking the thyroid and

sent me

> home. I could hardly walk out and was running into walls at this

point.

>

> Several days later I ended up in a different hospital where I lost

part of

> my kidney due to abcessing from a severe ecoli infection. I was

hospitalized

> for 10 days and they nearly lost me...imagine - and the first

emergency room

> said I should stop taking the thyroid as it was probably my problem.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

seriously speechless... although helpful! and im so sorry this

happened to you! thank god you are " alright " . now i am 100% sure im

done with doctors.

[Guest guest]

did the second doctor tell you what caused the infection?

[Guest guest]

contact a lawyer. get all you results. there should be a statue of

how long you have to sue, but i dont believe your time is up.

> only an emergency ward, that they are not very responsible for

things like

> that, that " stuff happens " .

are you kidding me? YES. THEY ARE 100% RESPOSIBLE.

[Guest guest]

I would try to find an attorney who specialises in medical

malpractice and ask them about the statute of limitations.

Last year I was broadsided by a 17 year old girl who ran a red light.

I had to spend the night in the hospital. In the emergency room they

did neck and chest x rays and had me in a neck brace until those

results came back. They did a CT scan which showed blood on my brain

so I had to have another one the next day. While in neurological ICU

I was hooked up to gizmos and had a nurse check on me every hour.

Only after they got the results of the 2nd ct scan did they release

me. Even in emergency rooms they need to follow procedures. I think

you might have a case.

Louise

> > How can I add one to the " GIVE ME A BREAK " files? I have one that

is

> > poetically funny (sad)

> >

> > Extremely ill and having gastric pains too, I went to emergency

and

> upon

> > querying, told them that I took no medictaons other than a

natural

> thyroid

> > supplement. They ran some tests and came back and suggested that

my

> problem

> > could be that I was on Armour thyroid and that maybe was coming

> down with

> > something too. They said that I should stop taking the thyroid and

> sent me

> > home. I could hardly walk out and was running into walls at this

> point.

> >

> > Several days later I ended up in a different hospital where I lost

> part of

> > my kidney due to abcessing from a severe ecoli infection. I was

> hospitalized

> > for 10 days and they nearly lost me...imagine - and the first

> emergency room

> > said I should stop taking the thyroid as it was probably my

problem.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I was travelling and bought some Brown Cow organic yogurt and it sat in the

car for a couple of hours and got warmish before I ate it all. I think that

had to be it. Ecoli must have already been in there and I incubated some.

My engine had blown up in Minnesota and they were putitng a new one in, so I

got stuck in a motel there doing everything I knew of to fight a toxic

reaction since the ER had sent me home. Didn't know what else to do, and

everything I did made the symptms finally get a lot better (Lots of C and

activated charcoal)......for awhile. I had had the ecoli for about 7-10 days

before I ended up in a hospital down in Arizona.

They took one look at me and said I wasn't going anywhere...they never asked

how I could have gotten it.

Thanks for caring..I thought it was just " another one of those things " I got

to endure....

~Inga

non 11/5/04 5:47 AM, britishley at britishley@... wrote:

did the second doctor tell you what caused the infection?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/6/2004 9:55:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> People around here think I'm crazy for suggesting it, but I REALLY DO think

> it's a genuine conspiracy.

...honest to goodness...I often think " conspiracy " ...because how stupid

can these folks be. At 33 years old...I had just read a page or two in a

health book and thought that I had thyroid problems. I just didn't read enough

then. But when I got diagnosed 15 years later, I started reading and it didn't

take me long at all to learn this stuff...the basics. So either they're total

idiots or just don't care - or dang - it's a conspiracy.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

Hey, I HOPE you filed a lawsuit, frankly. Grrrrrrr!!!

Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

>

> How can I add one to the " GIVE ME A BREAK " files? I have one that is

> poetically funny (sad)

>

> Extremely ill and having gastric pains too, I went to emergency and upon

> querying, told them that I took no medictaons other than a natural

thyroid

> supplement. They ran some tests and came back and suggested that my

problem

> could be that I was on Armour thyroid and that maybe was coming down with

> something too. They said that I should stop taking the thyroid and sent me

> home. I could hardly walk out and was running into walls at this point.

>

> Several days later I ended up in a different hospital where I lost part of

> my kidney due to abcessing from a severe ecoli infection. I was

hospitalized

> for 10 days and they nearly lost me...imagine - and the first emergency

room

> said I should stop taking the thyroid as it was probably my problem.

[Guest guest]

People around here think I'm crazy for suggesting it, but I REALLY DO think

it's a genuine conspiracy. Genecide of the species or what?

Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

>

> In a message dated 11/4/2004 9:03:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> wolfiebear@... writes:

>

> > They ran some tests and came back and suggested that my problem

> > could be that I was on Armour thyroid and that maybe was coming down

with

> > something too.

>

> i'm speechless....

> cindi

[Guest guest]

Glad you said that because I *definitely* think it's a conspiracy called

" Depopulation " & " One World Order " of the " Big Brother " kind. And I have a

lotta friends who completely agree with me who've seen & /or have experienced the

other evidence of it.

Caroline

Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

People around here think I'm crazy for suggesting it, but I REALLY DO think

it's a genuine conspiracy. Genecide of the species or what?

[Guest guest]

It's definitely a conspiracy!!! No doubt about it, IMHO.

C

Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

In a message dated 11/6/2004 9:55:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> People around here think I'm crazy for suggesting it, but I REALLY DO think

> it's a genuine conspiracy.

...honest to goodness...I often think " conspiracy " ...because how stupid

can these folks be. At 33 years old...I had just read a page or two in a

health book and thought that I had thyroid problems. I just didn't read

enough

then. But when I got diagnosed 15 years later, I started reading and it

didn't

take me long at all to learn this stuff...the basics. So either they're total

idiots or just don't care - or dang - it's a conspiracy.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

Oh yes, I think it is too.

Only I think most of the doctors out there are simply puppets...or

" sheople " ...

~Inga

_________on 11/6/04 10:16 PM, Caroline Pollak at MamaMaha@... wrote:

Glad you said that because I *definitely* think it's a conspiracy called

" Depopulation " & " One World Order " of the " Big Brother " kind. And I have a

lotta friends who completely agree with me who've seen & /or have experienced

the other evidence of it.

Caroline

Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

People around here think I'm crazy for suggesting it, but I REALLY DO think

it's a genuine conspiracy. Genecide of the species or what?

[Guest guest]

Yesterday I contacted a malpractice firm in Minnesota (where is happened,)

and it was real dishearteneing. They had me talk to a legal nurse, and she

said she could not really see a case here...she said that I would have to

prove that the fact that I was mistreated (if I was) had caused me

permamnent damage that was causing me health problems that was making it so

I could not work today, etc....

When I told her I had all sorts of health problems, she asked what my

current " medical " doctor said.

So now when you add my current problems (like mercury toxicity which is not

accepted by the legal arenas) into the picture, it becomes a real sloppy

soup. So what if I lost part of my kidney and damaged and adrenal gland, and

was almost killed by the medications? I am alive they figure so what's the

big deal?

I am already dealing with an attorney about estate issues who is TOTALLY on

my side, but when I mention the word " mercury " he practically cuts me off

and says we will not talk about that because it will not be accepted in

courts and such. I know this is a different issues but it all starts top

overlap when you get into it...hard to sort one thing out from another....

It sounded like I could wasted a lot of time and money (if it even went that

far) and end up with egg on my face.

She also mentioned something about the mew legislaton that recently went

into effect making it difficult to go after these kinds of things with out

serious PROOF.

I finally had to say thanks and excuse myself, becasue it got to the point

where I felt I had to defend myself in the eyes of those whom I was seeking

assistance from. She said I should go see this doctor and that, but where do

I get the money to do that? Becasue of estate issues, I can not get public

medical aid either.

Maybe I should still try and get the records form that hospital and see what

they say.......

I'll make a few more calls on monday before I hang it up....my lung is still

a little sore where they jammed needles into it in the hospital, and it has

been jsut over three years (statute of limitations in Minnesota is NOT up)

~Inga

........SIGH...........

~Inga

,on 11/6/04 6:51 PM, at marin@... wrote:

Hey, I HOPE you filed a lawsuit, frankly. Grrrrrrr!!!

Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

>

> How can I add one to the " GIVE ME A BREAK " files? I have one that is

> poetically funny (sad)

>

> Extremely ill and having gastric pains too, I went to emergency and upon

> querying, told them that I took no medictaons other than a natural

thyroid

> supplement. They ran some tests and came back and suggested that my

problem

> could be that I was on Armour thyroid and that maybe was coming down with

> something too. They said that I should stop taking the thyroid and sent me

> home. I could hardly walk out and was running into walls at this point.

>

> Several days later I ended up in a different hospital where I lost part of

> my kidney due to abcessing from a severe ecoli infection. I was

hospitalized

> for 10 days and they nearly lost me...imagine - and the first emergency

room

> said I should stop taking the thyroid as it was probably my problem.

[Guest guest]

Oh " sheople " fits perfectly. Think I'll use that one too. It's very appropriate.

C

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Oh yes, I think it is too.

Only I think most of the doctors out there are simply puppets...or

" sheople " ...

~Inga

[Guest guest]

Try to find an attorney who will take your case on a contigent basis.

If they don't get you anything you don't owe them anything. (Of if

you it's a small bill for copy fees.)

Good luck!!! There just isn't something right about them saying it's

the Armour causing your problems. I think thats where any lawsuit

would fall - misdiagnosis.

Louise

>

> Hey, I HOPE you filed a lawsuit, frankly. Grrrrrrr!!!

>

>

>

> Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

>

>

> >

> > How can I add one to the " GIVE ME A BREAK " files? I have one that

is

> > poetically funny (sad)

> >

> > Extremely ill and having gastric pains too, I went to emergency

and upon

> > querying, told them that I took no medictaons other than a

natural

> thyroid

> > supplement. They ran some tests and came back and suggested that

my

> problem

> > could be that I was on Armour thyroid and that maybe was coming

down with

> > something too. They said that I should stop taking the thyroid

and sent me

> > home. I could hardly walk out and was running into walls at this

point.

> >

> > Several days later I ended up in a different hospital where I

lost part of

> > my kidney due to abcessing from a severe ecoli infection. I was

> hospitalized

> > for 10 days and they nearly lost me...imagine - and the first

emergency

> room

> > said I should stop taking the thyroid as it was probably my

problem.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I understand exactly what you're saying, sister.

Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

>

> Glad you said that because I *definitely* think it's a conspiracy called

" Depopulation " & " One World Order " of the " Big Brother " kind. And I have a

lotta friends who completely agree with me who've seen & /or have experienced

the other evidence of it.

> Caroline

[Guest guest]

I think it very strange that this was a " legal nurse " . No matter what else

she/he does, he still works in and for the medical profession, so there's

going to be prejudice there.

Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

>

> Yesterday I contacted a malpractice firm in Minnesota (where is happened,)

> and it was real dishearteneing. They had me talk to a legal nurse, and she

> said she could not really see a case here...she said that I would have to

> prove that the fact that I was mistreated (if I was) had caused me

> permamnent damage that was causing me health problems that was making it

so

> I could not work today, etc....

>

> When I told her I had all sorts of health problems, she asked what my

> current " medical " doctor said.

> So now when you add my current problems (like mercury toxicity which is

not

> accepted by the legal arenas) into the picture, it becomes a real sloppy

> soup. So what if I lost part of my kidney and damaged and adrenal gland,

and

> was almost killed by the medications? I am alive they figure so what's the

> big deal?

>

> I am already dealing with an attorney about estate issues who is TOTALLY

on

> my side, but when I mention the word " mercury " he practically cuts me off

> and says we will not talk about that because it will not be accepted in

> courts and such. I know this is a different issues but it all starts top

> overlap when you get into it...hard to sort one thing out from another....

>

>

> It sounded like I could wasted a lot of time and money (if it even went

that

> far) and end up with egg on my face.

> She also mentioned something about the mew legislaton that recently went

> into effect making it difficult to go after these kinds of things with out

> serious PROOF.

>

> I finally had to say thanks and excuse myself, becasue it got to the point

> where I felt I had to defend myself in the eyes of those whom I was

seeking

> assistance from. She said I should go see this doctor and that, but where

do

> I get the money to do that? Becasue of estate issues, I can not get public

> medical aid either.

>

> Maybe I should still try and get the records form that hospital and see

what

> they say.......

> I'll make a few more calls on monday before I hang it up....my lung is

still

> a little sore where they jammed needles into it in the hospital, and it

has

> been jsut over three years (statute of limitations in Minnesota is NOT up)

> ~Inga

>

>

> .......SIGH...........

>

> ~Inga

[Guest guest]

It's more like " wolfeople " to me. Illness makes money that there is no end

to. The medical profession and the pharmaceuticals sleep together every day

and night, and enjoy each other's company immensely.

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>

>

> Oh yes, I think it is too.

> Only I think most of the doctors out there are simply puppets...or

> " sheople " ...

> ~Inga

[Guest guest]

Yes, " wolfpeople " fits well. If anyone are " sheoples " it's the patients who

believe in the " supreme divine authority " of the AMA/pharmeceutical deities &

slavishly follow their advice & prescribing 'till death do they part.

Caroline

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It's more like " wolfeople " to me. Illness makes money that there is no end

to. The medical profession and the pharmaceuticals sleep together every day

and night, and enjoy each other's company immensely.

[Guest guest]

Yes! ...but I think the word sheople refers to the l folks who on some level

simply allow themselves to be maneuvered by such forces forces instead of

listeneing to their own voice. They allow the voices of such parties to

drown their own out.

I believe that most people who decide to become doctors do not set out with

a mission of gread and control...but along the way, they become prey and

succomb to the forces that be..... they somewhere lose the courage to stand

up and listen to their own voice. Therfore: SHEOPLE. Sad, really.....

Humanity, widely spoken, is also part of the problem becasue we once lofted

them up there as " Gods " ...and now we find out that they are not.....

~inga

on 11/8/04 7:12 AM, at marin@... wrote:

It's more like " wolfeople " to me. Illness makes money that there is no end

to. The medical profession and the pharmaceuticals sleep together every day

and night, and enjoy each other's company immensely.

Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

>

>

> Oh yes, I think it is too.

> Only I think most of the doctors out there are simply puppets...or

> " sheople " ...

> ~Inga

[Guest guest]

Y U P !

Hit nail on head

~inga

on 11/8/04 7:10 AM, at marin@... wrote:

I think it very strange that this was a " legal nurse " . No matter what else

she/he does, he still works in and for the medical profession, so there's

going to be prejudice there.

Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

>

> Yesterday I contacted a malpractice firm in Minnesota (where is happened,)

> and it was real dishearteneing. They had me talk to a legal nurse, and she

> said she could not really see a case here...she said that I would have to

> prove that the fact that I was mistreated (if I was) had caused me

> permamnent damage that was causing me health problems that was making it

so

> I could not work today, etc....

>

> When I told her I had all sorts of health problems, she asked what my

> current " medical " doctor said.

> So now when you add my current problems (like mercury toxicity which is

not

> accepted by the legal arenas) into the picture, it becomes a real sloppy

> soup. So what if I lost part of my kidney and damaged and adrenal gland,

and

> was almost killed by the medications? I am alive they figure so what's the

> big deal?

>

> I am already dealing with an attorney about estate issues who is TOTALLY

on

> my side, but when I mention the word " mercury " he practically cuts me off

> and says we will not talk about that because it will not be accepted in

> courts and such. I know this is a different issues but it all starts top

> overlap when you get into it...hard to sort one thing out from another....

>

>

> It sounded like I could wasted a lot of time and money (if it even went

that

> far) and end up with egg on my face.

> She also mentioned something about the mew legislaton that recently went

> into effect making it difficult to go after these kinds of things with out

> serious PROOF.

>

> I finally had to say thanks and excuse myself, becasue it got to the point

> where I felt I had to defend myself in the eyes of those whom I was

seeking

> assistance from. She said I should go see this doctor and that, but where

do

> I get the money to do that? Becasue of estate issues, I can not get public

> medical aid either.

>

> Maybe I should still try and get the records form that hospital and see

what

> they say.......

> I'll make a few more calls on monday before I hang it up....my lung is

still

> a little sore where they jammed needles into it in the hospital, and it

has

> been jsut over three years (statute of limitations in Minnesota is NOT up)

> ~Inga

>

>

> .......SIGH...........

>

> ~Inga

[Guest guest]

> The medical profession and the pharmaceuticals sleep together

every day and night, and enjoy each other's company immensely. <

Wow, great definition!!!

Margreet.

>

> Re: GIVE ME A BREAK

> >

> >

> > Oh yes, I think it is too.

> > Only I think most of the doctors out there are simply

puppets...or

> > " sheople " ...

> > ~Inga