Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 If my bedtime BG is between 125 and 140, I consider that okay to go to sleep without worry. If it's lower than 125 I take a glucose tab or 2, whatever I need to get it up to 125. Or if I do a snack, a half slice of rye bread with some peanut butter does the job nicely. If it's above 140 I take a little corrective insulin. Vicki Bedtime BG readings > > Since I have been having such problems with hypos lately, I am curious > at to what reading most people try to achieve before going to bed. As > far as I know I have not had hypos during the night, but that is > becuase I OD on food before I go to bed. Tonight my bg at 11:30 p.m. > was 84. I certainly would not go to bed with a reading that low. So I > had a small amount of popcorn, about 8 cherries and some string > cheese. an hour later my reading is 171 - so that really zoomed up. > Will have to rethink snacks because they are going to be more > sensitive with less Glipizide. Oh well, should not go hypo during the > night for sure. > > Barb in NH > Diabetes caused by Surgery > 7.5 mg Glipizide daily > Low carb diet/not enough exercise > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 YMMV, I could not go to bed with a number as high as 125 because I could, more likely than not, wake up well over 150, maybe even 175. The closer I am to 100, the less rise I will experience during the night. And any fbg over 110 gives me a heart attack. However, when I compare my numbers to my A1c, it seems I glycolate a little more than the average person. Barb, you need to test. Check bedtime numbers and wake-up numbers and see what happens during the night. Lots of tests, because with your malabsorption, you may have great variances. Then you use the most conservative figure as the one you would like to see at bedtime. In your case, not the average, because you mileage may really vary. If your A1c remains under six, with a decrease in medication, you can congratulate yourself on a job well done, under difficult circumstances. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 >YMMV, I could not go to bed with a number as high as 125 because I could, more likely than not, wake up well over 150, maybe even 175. The closer I am to 100, the less rise I will experience during the night. I usually go to bed with numbers as high as 145 and always wake up around 165. I agree that the closer I am to 100, the less rise in the morning. But the problem is how do you not go to bed with numbers that high if you have taken all your drugs and are following your diet plan and they are still that high? It's not the easy. <for me anyway> Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 That, as Vicki would say, is the benefit of being on insulin. More control than pills. SulaBlue But the problem is how do you not go to bed with numbers that high if you have taken all your drugs and are following your diet plan and they are still that high? It's not the easy. <for me anyway> > > Kat > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 I don't even worry about being low at night, because without fail I will have a 30-50 point raise by morning, usually kicking in around 6 AM it seems. > If my bedtime BG is between 125 and 140, I consider that okay to go to > sleep without worry. If it's lower than 125 I take a glucose tab or 2, > whatever I need to get it up to 125. Or if I do a snack, a half slice of > rye bread with some peanut butter does the job nicely. > > If it's above 140 I take a little corrective insulin. > Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 I am a type 2. One that can't remember which type everyone else is. > >> If my bedtime BG is between 125 and 140, I consider that okay to go > > to > >> sleep without worry. If it's lower than 125 I take a glucose tab or > > 2, > >> whatever I need to get it up to 125. Or if I do a snack, a half > > slice of > >> rye bread with some peanut butter does the job nicely. > >> > >> If it's above 140 I take a little corrective insulin. > >> Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 > > > > >YMMV, I could not go to bed with a number as high as 125 because I could, > more likely than not, wake up well over 150, maybe even 175. The closer > I am to 100, the less rise I will experience during the night. > > I usually go to bed with numbers as high as 145 and always wake up around 165. I agree that the closer I am to 100, the less rise in the morning. But the problem is how do you not go to bed with numbers that high if you have taken all your drugs and are following your diet plan and they are still that high? It's not the easy. <for me anyway> > > Kat Hi Kat Maybe it would help if you gave us one day's diet plan - for example, what did you eat and drink yesterday, including all afood, snacks and drinks. For me, 145 is much too high for bedtime. Cheers, Alan, T2 d & e, Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 > > > >Maybe it would help if you gave us one day's diet plan - for example, > what did you eat and drink yesterday, including all afood, > snacks and drinks. For me, 145 is much too high for bedtime. > > Cheers, Alan, T2 d & e, Australia > > Hi Alan, > > Okay here goes........... and this is a very typical day for me. > > Woke up with 161 BS > Took 5mg Byetta and 2mg Amaryl > Ate 1 slice low-carb bread, 1/2 c egg beaters, 2 soy sausages This is mainly a guess - read your labels, I would guess carbs at 9gm (bread), 0gm egg beaters (I don't get them here), and I think you'll be surprised at the carb content of those sausages - I'd guess at least another 9 gm there. I'd also be interested in your one hour reading, for all of these meals. When do you time from, the start or finish? > BS 2 hours later = 112 > Lunch = 4 oz chicken breast, 1/4 c black beans, sliced tomato > BS 2 hours later = 160 Is that a cooked or raw (before cooking) 1/4 cup of beans? Raw is 30gms, cooked is 10 gms, add 5 for the tomato. > Snack = 1/2 c lowfat cottage cheese and 1/4 c pineapple 1/4 cup pineapple is about 5gm raw but double that canned - and more again if it was canned in it's own syrup. There's a reason it tastes so sweet:-) > Took 5mg Byetta and 1mg Amaryl before dinner > Dinner = 4 oz chicken breast, 1/2 baked sweet potato, small salad > BS 2 hours later = 136 The sweet potato is 20-30gm depending on size. > Bedtime BS = 146 > If that's all you ate - it's definitely not high carb. However, I think you could select a few better choices. Just some ideas for you to think about, and possibly to try. Check with your advisers if you have any doubts. For breakfast, try some real fish or meat (ham, hamburger patty, small steak, drained bacon) instead of the soy sausages; try a real egg instead of the 'beaters', and try breakfast without a slice of bread. If you like the soy snags - have them for lunch, and reduce the beans portion - add some green salad to make up the bulk. For dinner, try adding more greens and low-carb veges (squash, cauli, broccoli etc) and cut back on the sweet potato. And, to add back some of those carbs you just cut, try a slice of wholemeal multigrain as a late snack about an hour before bedtime - or have the beans you missed then, or some grain-based cereal. Try adding an extra (or even a replacement) test an hour after you eat to see if you peak earlier. If you don't, you can always return to the two-hour test. Oh, and keep the pineaple for those moments when you are having a hypo and need something sweet. I live in the centre of a district that grows sugar-cane, bananas and pineapples; but I no longer use any of those local products:-) The good news is that we also produce avocados and macadamias - both of which are good foods you can safely add to your menu. In effect, change the starchy carbs for veges with more water and less starch and spread your food across the day to eat the same quantity in more but smaller mini-meals. I call it " grazing " ; for some people that late snack has helped with the dawn effect. Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. -- Diet and not enough exercise. I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Probably so. The Boca breakfast links 2 links - 5g carbs (2 fiber, 2 sugar), and 8g of protein. SulaBlue > This is mainly a guess - read your labels, I would guess carbs at 9gm > (bread), 0gm egg beaters (I don't get them here), and I think you'll > be surprised at the carb content of those sausages - I'd guess at > least another 9 gm there. I'd also be interested in your one hour > reading, for all of these meals. When do you time from, the start or > finish? > Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. > -- > Diet and not enough exercise. > I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. > Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be > an expensive teacher. > > Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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