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In a message dated 7/23/99 9:51:31 AM Central Daylight Time, MJplus5@...

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<< She is almost two now. At 3 weeks she

had only gained 2 ounces more than her birth weight, although she had lost a

lot of weight when we left the hospital the next day, (under six pounds, I

forget the exact number) and I don't know how much over the next couple days

til my milk came in. She definitely lost at least a pound or more from her

birth weight. I don't think her weight gain ever exceeding a pound per

month

by more than a few ounces. >>

At 6 weeks was a few 7 pounds 8 ounces at birth he was 7 pounds 9

ounces. So I can understand the situation you were in. The Dr told me to

increase nurings as much as I could for the next week to see if that would

help and I did and he gained an ounce he wanted him to gain 7. I knew he was

going to say I had to give him formula. Of course he did with little hope of

him every being off of it again. I can't express how broken my heart was. I

don't think I stoped crying for a week. But another thing I didn't do was for

a second think I was going to continue giving him formula and stop

breastfeeding alltogether. If it ment pumping 24 hours a day. (And it seemed

like that is what I was doing) pump 20 minutes breastfeed 30 minutes finger

feed him the breastmilk and formula took about 20 minutes total 70 mintes

then we had a little rest time before then entire proccess started over

again. cause you know you have to pump every 2 hours. Dear LORD please bless

me with an abundent supply next time. :)

When I found myself a LC and she saved us. Sad to say she won't be around

for my next baby. I called her the other day about something and she told me

she gave up her busness. She had just had a misscarrage and she couldn't

stand being around all the baby's right now. It was just way to much for her.

She sounded soo upset. It made me cry. :(

Amy

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In a message dated 7/25/99 7:41:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Feb98@... writes:

<< Dear LORD please bless

me with an abundent supply next time. :)

When I found myself a LC and she saved us. Sad to say she won't be around

for my next baby. I called her the other day about something and she told me

she gave up her busness. She had just had a misscarrage and she couldn't

stand being around all the baby's right now. It was just way to much for

her.

She sounded soo upset. It made me cry. :(

Amy

>>

How sad for her. Here she was helping so many women and babies and she was

in this situation. My heart breaks for people in her (or similar) shoes. I

hear you about having an abundant supply the next time! I keep my fingers

crossed every day for my upcoming arrival.

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Most non-dieting books I've read caution that weight gain at first is a usual

occurrence. That's very hard to accept because so many of us come here looking

for weight reduction. Yet what keeps me going, and what I've read from others

too, is remembering how dieting is WORSE and really NOT what works or none of us

would have ever re-gained after dieting.

So, if you want change, you have to make a change. I have made enough positive

changes via IE that it has reinforced my belief in accepting the excellent

guidance that so many before me have laid down. Legalizing was one of the

hardest processes to do for me because it 'fed' into my rebellious need to eat

'in spite'. But I did get over that so I knew that I could also tackle and

conquer another and then another IE suggestion. It not only takes time, it takes

a bit of faith and/or maybe hardheaded-ness too?

Its time to 'weigh' your IE gains vs. losses. And by this I don't mean the

number on the scale, but peace with foods, sanity around food, and returning to

loving the loyal and faithful body that you occupy too. Bet no diet can add up

those 'points' ;-)

Best to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Is it normal to gain weight when you first start IE? I made the mistake of

stepping on the scales. It was all I could do not to run back to points-land. I

told myself it was okay and not to get upset, but I'm not so sure I believe it.

I only gained 6 lbs, but that was enough to make me question if I can really do

this or am I tricking myself into thinking this is a free ride.

>

> Abby

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Remember that even if you eat completely " reasonably, " whatever that means, if your body is used to dieting, it takes a while for your metabolism to regulate, in essence for your body to trust itself. dieting/starving yourself has made your metabolism slow down! but clearly dieting is not the solution to this or none of us would be here! dieting causes weight gain in the long run. 

But this is hard. Be patient with yourself for struggling with this.Best,Abby

Most non-dieting books I've read caution that weight gain at first is a usual occurrence. That's very hard to accept because so many of us come here looking for weight reduction. Yet what keeps me going, and what I've read from others too, is remembering how dieting is WORSE and really NOT what works or none of us would have ever re-gained after dieting.

So, if you want change, you have to make a change. I have made enough positive changes via IE that it has reinforced my belief in accepting the excellent guidance that so many before me have laid down. Legalizing was one of the hardest processes to do for me because it 'fed' into my rebellious need to eat 'in spite'. But I did get over that so I knew that I could also tackle and conquer another and then another IE suggestion. It not only takes time, it takes a bit of faith and/or maybe hardheaded-ness too?

Its time to 'weigh' your IE gains vs. losses. And by this I don't mean the number on the scale, but peace with foods, sanity around food, and returning to loving the loyal and faithful body that you occupy too. Bet no diet can add up those 'points' ;-)

Best to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Is it normal to gain weight when you first start IE? I made the mistake of stepping on the scales. It was all I could do not to run back to points-land. I told myself it was okay and not to get upset, but I'm not so sure I believe it. I only gained 6 lbs, but that was enough to make me question if I can really do this or am I tricking myself into thinking this is a free ride.

>

> Abby

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Thanks for the question, Abby. Anxious to see the answers because I'm experiencing the same thing. I'm trying hard not to let it discourage me.

Sharon

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:58:27 PMSubject: Weight GainIs it normal to gain weight when you first start IE? I made the mistake of stepping on the scales. It was all I could do not to run back to points-land. I told myself it was okay and not to get upset, but I'm not so sure I believe it. I only gained 6 lbs, but that was enough to make me question if I can really do this or am I tricking myself into thinking this is a free ride. Abby------------------------------------

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I know, for me, that I ate like an escaped prisoner on a spree at first. I

did gain weight, for three or four months. Now that I'm finally starting to

live in my body and feel whether and when I'm hungry, the weight gain has

stopped.

I trust that the weight will go down in time, as I grow more attuned to what

I feel (both digestively and emotionally).

Harry

Weight Gain

Is it normal to gain weight when you first start IE? I made the mistake of

stepping on the scales. It was all I could do not to run back to

points-land. I told myself it was okay and not to get upset, but I'm not so

sure I believe it. I only gained 6 lbs, but that was enough to make me

question if I can really do this or am I tricking myself into thinking this

is a free ride.

Abby

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Absolutely Harry! Bravo, keep up the good work and looking forward to more posts

from you as you progress onward :)

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I know, for me, that I ate like an escaped prisoner on a spree at first. I

> did gain weight, for three or four months. Now that I'm finally starting to

> live in my body and feel whether and when I'm hungry, the weight gain has

> stopped.

> I trust that the weight will go down in time, as I grow more attuned to what

> I feel (both digestively and emotionally).

> Harry

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I definitely did gain a bit when I first started IE and allowing myself to legalize foods. It took me quite a while to work through cookie dough and also these amazing asian mango candies. A couple of days ago I realized the only sweet thing I had all day was some honey with my tea in the morning. I couldn't believe it! I have (?had) SUCH a sweet tooth. Now I have sweets much less often, but I still have them now and then. And my apartment is filled with lots of goodies for whenever I next have that craving. I feel RICH with all this yummy stuff around me, all for whenever I want it.

My weight is gradually normalizing, by the way. I think the big reason is this is not WHAT i eat (i eat whatever I am craving), but WHY i eat. when I listen to my body, and eat because i'm hungry, i feel good. it helps me to really try to not do anything else while i eat. breaking the habit of eating and reading was hard, but now i enjoy eating much more without it. it's like i get to really savor the food instead of using food to blindly numb myself. i like asking myself " am i really hungry, or do i just want to change the way i feel? " if it's the latter, i try to really focus on whatever unpleasant feeling i have and work through it, or just sit with it.

Im not 100% successful with it, but that's ok. i hope this is helpful.best,abby

Absolutely Harry! Bravo, keep up the good work and looking forward to more posts from you as you progress onward :)

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I know, for me, that I ate like an escaped prisoner on a spree at first. I

> did gain weight, for three or four months. Now that I'm finally starting to

> live in my body and feel whether and when I'm hungry, the weight gain has

> stopped.

> I trust that the weight will go down in time, as I grow more attuned to what

> I feel (both digestively and emotionally).

> Harry

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LOL I did exact same with candies everywhere in my room to the point I seem

don't treat them like a huge deal anymore as I used back then when I was in

foster home. I still do eat them but just simply little at a time which they

last long time. Not mind about that either.

Eliza

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> > > I know, for me, that I ate like an escaped prisoner on a spree at first.

> > I

> > > did gain weight, for three or four months. Now that I'm finally starting

> > to

> > > live in my body and feel whether and when I'm hungry, the weight gain has

> > > stopped.

> > > I trust that the weight will go down in time, as I grow more attuned to

> > what

> > > I feel (both digestively and emotionally).

> > > Harry

> >

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I have been struggling with this, also.

What I keep telling myself is this; if I cut 100 cals/day (I am not calorie counting - just reminding myself of facts), with all else remaining equal, I could lose 10 pounds in a year. That reminds me that it will be slow and gradual, up and down, and maybe not noticeable day to day.

That fact keeps me "sane", whatever that is!

Kimberlie

IE since 11/08

Subject: Re: Weight GainTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 11:07 AM

Absolutely Harry! Bravo, keep up the good work and looking forward to more posts from you as you progress onward :)KatchaIEing since March 2007>> I know, for me, that I ate like an escaped prisoner on a spree at first. I> did gain weight, for three or four months. Now that I'm finally starting to> live in my body and feel whether and when I'm hungry, the weight gain has> stopped. > I trust that the weight will go down in time, as I grow more attuned to what> I feel (both digestively and emotionally) .> Harry

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This is something had brought back some memories where I was very comfort with

my body enough make me realized I can bring that feel of comfort back to me with

my own body with no matter what weights. It was during that time before my

mother died since she was huge but very tall woman abut 5 feet and 11 inches as

my father was much shorter than her. Both of them had remind me it does not

matter who or what you are. It is what you want as you want to be whoever you

choice to be. That will be your own choice alone. Be someone for yourself and

listen to no others who think that is wrong thing to do without they might

realized that toward down somewhere on the road that will great damage not only

spiritual but also mental health as well. That was something both of my parents

taught me before they passed away. I have forgot that lesson for so long until I

started reading this book of IE and realized how much I have forgot what they

had taught me. I am take it back the way what I remember. Guess what I already

have started lose some weights lately without a thought or wish that I did lose

more blah blah blah. I am happy with the way I am.

Eliza

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Thanks Katcha. It is hard to accept the weight gain, but I'm working on it.

Since I hopped on the scales, I've been eating like a crazy woman again. I had

several great days after my epiphany last week, but seeing the weight gain has

set me back.

I know that if I go on another diet, I'll set myself back even further. I don't

think I've completely legalized all food. I still view the bad/good everywhere I

go. I need to work on that. The other thing is that when I choose to eat healthy

I feel like I'm dieting even though I'm not. I panic and go for the once

forbidden food. I know that is the hang over of all-or-nothing thinking.

One positive -- I bought myself a skirt today. I haven't worn a skirt in over

ten years because I didn't like the way my legs looked. That's a big step for me

and something I couldn't do this time last year. When I think of all the things

I didn't do because I was waiting until I lost weight, it seems so silly and it

also makes me want to cry.

Abby

> >

> > Is it normal to gain weight when you first start IE? I made the mistake of

stepping on the scales. It was all I could do not to run back to points-land. I

told myself it was okay and not to get upset, but I'm not so sure I believe it.

I only gained 6 lbs, but that was enough to make me question if I can really do

this or am I tricking myself into thinking this is a free ride.

> >

> > Abby

> >

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Thanks for the inspiration, Abby! Good to hear from someone who loves sweets like I do, who gained weight initially, and who has normalized. I have a variety of candy bars in my cupboard, just in case. At first I went on IE, I ate at least 2 a day. Now I'm down to only 1 most days, and I'm getting pickier about the quality of my chocolate, lol. Today, I made a pan of homemade fudge because I couldn't find any commercial that I really liked. But I'm waiting to cut into it until tomorrow. Now THAT's a victory of sorts. :)

You've renewed my hope that IE is going to work for me. Thanks!

Gracie

IE-ing since 4/2/09

To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: abigail.wolfson@...Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:07:17 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Weight Gain

I definitely did gain a bit when I first started IE and allowing myself to legalize foods. It took me quite a while to work through cookie dough and also these amazing asian mango candies. A couple of days ago I realized the only sweet thing I had all day was some honey with my tea in the morning. I couldn't believe it! I have (?had) SUCH a sweet tooth. Now I have sweets much less often, but I still have them now and then. And my apartment is filled with lots of goodies for whenever I next have that craving. I feel RICH with all this yummy stuff around me, all for whenever I want it.

My weight is gradually normalizing, by the way. I think the big reason is this is not WHAT i eat (i eat whatever I am craving), but WHY i eat. when I listen to my body, and eat because i'm hungry, i feel good. it helps me to really try to not do anything else while i eat. breaking the habit of eating and reading was hard, but now i enjoy eating much more without it. it's like i get to really savor the food instead of using food to blindly numb myself. i like asking myself "am i really hungry, or do i just want to change the way i feel?" if it's the latter, i try to really focus on whatever unpleasant feeling i have and work through it, or just sit with it.

Im not 100% successful with it, but that's ok.

i hope this is helpful.

best,

abby

Absolutely Harry! Bravo, keep up the good work and looking forward to more posts from you as you progress onward :)

KatchaIEing since March 2007

>> I know, for me, that I ate like an escaped prisoner on a spree at first. I> did gain weight, for three or four months. Now that I'm finally starting to> live in my body and feel whether and when I'm hungry, the weight gain has> stopped. > I trust that the weight will go down in time, as I grow more attuned to what> I feel (both digestively and emotionally).> Harry

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Hi all – my name is – I don’t post

much. I’ve been IEing since early June. As you can imagine

I’m still in the early stages. I like the way things are going with

finding peace with food, legalizing, less worry about what to eat or what I

just ate. However, I worry a lot about gaining weight. I gained a

few pounds at the beginning, probably about ­5-7. Now I think

I’m mostly “stable” but I worry about gaining more,

constantly. One of my lifelong self-esteem issues is “everyone

else” - everyone else doesn’t have a food problem, everyone

else can eat one Oreo, everyone else, et cetera. I am now telling myself

that “everyone else” is probably transitioning into the sweet spot

of IE without gaining weight.

The books don’t dwell on gaining weight much, probably

they don’t want to scare us off. Is it even okay to bring this

up? I would love to hear other people’s experiences with gaining

weight. I feel like I’m the only one who is.

Thanks

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> Hi Sara, - Wow! I am in the same spot as you! Last night I actually had

nightmares about how much I think I have gained! I am scared and I find myself

trying to see if I can do with less caloric kinds of food to satisfy me. I

realized that I enjoy lite breads just as much as real bread if its toasted so

now I can make a nutritional choice. Or if I really like something - I eat it

all day as meals and not put it off for another day. The books do talk about

weight gain. they say if we have been dieting by starving ourselves then we will

gain weight initialy and then as we learn we will stabilize at our natural

weight which will probably be higher than the weight I was dieting down to. I

really want to continue this method since it seems the sanest thing that one can

live with happily till the end,,,, I always thought to myself on diets - I can't

wait till the day before I die to eat ? isn't that sad. So I really believe I

can live peacefully with food for the rest of my life most of the time if I

continue learning. And hopefully if I eat only when I am hungry my weight will

be ok. I realize that i don't graze anymore like i used to when I dieted. I am

eating now whenever I get hungry and it's great to be able to feel that I am

full and know that I can wait to eat. I don't have to stuff it in. Hope this

helps. Diane

> Hi all - my name is - I don't post much. I've been IEing since early

> June. As you can imagine I'm still in the early stages. I like the way

> things are going with finding peace with food, legalizing, less worry about

> what to eat or what I just ate. However, I worry a lot about gaining

> weight. I gained a few pounds at the beginning, probably about -5-7. Now I

> think I'm mostly " stable " but I worry about gaining more, constantly. One

> of my lifelong self-esteem issues is " everyone else " - everyone else

> doesn't have a food problem, everyone else can eat one Oreo, everyone else,

> et cetera. I am now telling myself that " everyone else " is probably

> transitioning into the sweet spot of IE without gaining weight.

>

> The books don't dwell on gaining weight much, probably they don't want to

> scare us off. Is it even okay to bring this up? I would love to hear other

> people's experiences with gaining weight. I feel like I'm the only one who

> is.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

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, I'm new too. I just wanted to say welcome.

KT

>

> Hi all - my name is - I don't post much. I've been IEing since early

> June. As you can imagine I'm still in the early stages. I like the way

> things are going with finding peace with food, legalizing, less worry about

> what to eat or what I just ate. However, I worry a lot about gaining

> weight. I gained a few pounds at the beginning, probably about -5-7. Now I

> think I'm mostly " stable " but I worry about gaining more, constantly. One

> of my lifelong self-esteem issues is " everyone else " - everyone else

> doesn't have a food problem, everyone else can eat one Oreo, everyone else,

> et cetera. I am now telling myself that " everyone else " is probably

> transitioning into the sweet spot of IE without gaining weight.

>

> The books don't dwell on gaining weight much, probably they don't want to

> scare us off. Is it even okay to bring this up? I would love to hear other

> people's experiences with gaining weight. I feel like I'm the only one who

> is.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

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Hi ...you are definitely not the only one who has gained weight when starting IE. I gained about 50 pounds when I started. I had just stopped going to Weight Watchers for about 3 years and I was feeling very deprived food wise. So I kinda went a little crazy with food. But after that my weight leveled out for a year or so (I started IE 3 years ago) and now it is slowly going down again. It helps to not even think about the weight....the more I focused on my weight and stressed that I was gaining weight...the more I would gain. Just focus on incorporating IE into your life and your weight will take care of itself. :)

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:43:21 AMSubject: weight gain

Hi all – my name is – I don’t post much. I’ve been IEing since early June. As you can imagine I’m still in the early stages. I like the way things are going with finding peace with food, legalizing, less worry about what to eat or what I just ate. However, I worry a lot about gaining weight. I gained a few pounds at the beginning, probably about ­5-7. Now I think I’m mostly “stable†but I worry about gaining more, constantly. One of my lifelong self-esteem issues is “everyone else†- everyone else doesn’t have a food problem, everyone else can eat one Oreo, everyone else, et cetera. I am now telling myself that “everyone else†is probably transitioning into the sweet spot of IE without gaining weight.

The books don’t dwell on gaining weight much, probably they don’t want to scare us off. Is it even okay to bring this up? I would love to hear other people’s experiences with gaining weight. I feel like I’m the only one who is.

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Hi :

Dont worry, you're not alone having these fears of weight gain.

I think the weight gain is what always drove us back to the next diet. And we

all know where that road leads. But, it seemed to be the only solution at the

time.

I often get frustrated because I want to have a normal sized body. I'm tired of

pulling my shirt down every time I get up out of a chair and I sometimes

fantasize about weight loss surgery being the dream cure. When my head is in

" diet mode, " it is really scary to add another scoop of ice cream to the bowl.

I'm learning that IE fixes what's in my head and it wont happen overnight. What

has been helping me alot lately is focusing on loving myself at this size and

just enjoying the food. (thanks to Sara for all her posts about this). I have

noticed the food has less power over me when I'm allowed to eat anything I want.

And eventually, the pendulum will swing back toward the middle and there will be

balance and food and weight loss wont be such an issue for me anymore.

At times it is still hard to TRUST that this process will work.

Thanks for bringing up the subject. You're definitely not alone in this.

Deb

>

> Hi all - my name is - I don't post much. I've been IEing since early

> June. As you can imagine I'm still in the early stages. I like the way

> things are going with finding peace with food, legalizing, less worry about

> what to eat or what I just ate. However, I worry a lot about gaining

> weight. I gained a few pounds at the beginning, probably about -5-7. Now I

> think I'm mostly " stable " but I worry about gaining more, constantly. One

> of my lifelong self-esteem issues is " everyone else " - everyone else

> doesn't have a food problem, everyone else can eat one Oreo, everyone else,

> et cetera. I am now telling myself that " everyone else " is probably

> transitioning into the sweet spot of IE without gaining weight.

>

> The books don't dwell on gaining weight much, probably they don't want to

> scare us off. Is it even okay to bring this up? I would love to hear other

> people's experiences with gaining weight. I feel like I'm the only one who

> is.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

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I love how you wrote that. I recognized it so much as the self-talk I've had

with myself a million times. I would start to romantize some aspect of my diet

days. Then, when I would think about it some more, I would realize how

inaccurate those memories were. Or I would remember the downsides associated

with those dieting times. I think it's really healthy to have that kind of

self-talk to help you work through conflicting thoughts. And I think it really

helps to write it all down, especially here.

Sounds like you're definitely on a healing path!

Sara

> > >

> > > Hi all - my name is - I don't post much. I've been IEing since

early

> > > June. As you can imagine I'm still in the early stages. I like the way

> > > things are going with finding peace with food, legalizing, less worry

about

> > > what to eat or what I just ate. However, I worry a lot about gaining

> > > weight. I gained a few pounds at the beginning, probably about -5-7. Now

I

> > > think I'm mostly " stable " but I worry about gaining more, constantly. One

> > > of my lifelong self-esteem issues is " everyone else " - everyone else

> > > doesn't have a food problem, everyone else can eat one Oreo, everyone

else,

> > > et cetera. I am now telling myself that " everyone else " is probably

> > > transitioning into the sweet spot of IE without gaining weight.

> > >

> > > The books don't dwell on gaining weight much, probably they don't want to

> > > scare us off. Is it even okay to bring this up? I would love to hear

other

> > > people's experiences with gaining weight. I feel like I'm the only one

who

> > > is.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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This is really powerful!!!!! I am starting to get this!!!! It's easy to

appreciate what self-love means intellectually, but it is profound when you

actually experience it!!!

Thanks Sara,

Deb

> If seeing myself as beautiful

depends on being at a certain weight, or age, or toneness, then my

esteem is built on a foundation of sand. The only self-love that's

real is the self-love that comes right now. If I can truly achieve

self-love right now, then I can love myself at any weight or age. Fear of

weight gain, or of aging, etc. kind of melts away. None of that has anything at

all to do with true self-love. Love just is, it doesn't need a reason.

> Sara

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