Re: Legalizing boneless skinless chicken and being receptive to exercise

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Thanks Deb for sharing.

I am really looking forward to the IE books. It's actually a relief to know that there is talk of nutrition and exercise in the books -- I've been sort of making a go of it on my own and just eating when i am hungry and with the goal of stopping when I am moderately full.

Eventually, the next goal with my dietician is to start noticing what my body wants to eat and when, and then to move on to add excerise to the mix.

I think a part of me has been scared since I started IE that my eating disorder could just see it as permission to eat only the foods it likes...

I had a good breakfast this morning, realized I wasn't all that hungry, so I want to say it was a small breakfast, but I guess it was just what I needed. It's nice not to feel so full all the time.

Liz

To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: dmackes@...Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:32:31 +0000Subject: Legalizing boneless skinless chicken and being receptive to exercise

You know it's funny, we spend all this time deprogramming old diet mentality and then eventually find that we ultimately begin to turn back to the foods that we associated with dieting. The difference it, we've found out for ourselves through self-care that these foods and activities help support our health. Which is entirely different than dieting - yet are quite similar to an outsider. I flipped open my IE book last night to read and it landed in the exercise section. (DAMN!) I'm starting to contemplate exercise in my mind - for my good health that is. I mentioned before about getting food stuck in my throat. Well it turns out that I have damaged esophagus from acid reflux and a hiatal hernia. Guess what one of the best things to do for this problem???? LOSE WEIGHT!It's funny though, I'm not so scared of those words like I used to be. It really helps to substitute with the words - TAKING CARE OF MY BODY! Deb

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Love this post and I totally agree... I eat *most* of my diet from clean & healthy foods (fruits, veggies, whole grains, etc..) and I do exercise daily. I feel awesome after I exercise, its not only good for your body, but your mind & soul as well!

I don't have any foods that are off limits because they're "bad" foods or anything like that, but I know that my body can't handle certain foods, most dairy, deep fried, fast foods, etc.. so I avoid them like the plague. Not because they're unhealthy, but because they make me literally feel sick and the effects of them are horrible on my body.

In the last 4 months i've completely changed my diet and I feel better than I ever have in my entire life... now I eat what/when I want, but I don't crave the foods I used to... now my 'go to' foods are usually fruits & veggies! Or some nice high quality dark chocolate...

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Legalizing boneless skinless chicken and being receptive to exercise

You know it's funny, we spend all this time deprogramming old diet mentality and then eventually find that we ultimately begin to turn back to the foods that we associated with dieting. The difference it, we've found out for ourselves through self-care that these foods and activities help support our health. Which is entirely different than dieting - yet are quite similar to an outsider. I flipped open my IE book last night to read and it landed in the exercise section. (DAMN!) I'm starting to contemplate exercise in my mind - for my good health that is. I mentioned before about getting food stuck in my throat. Well it turns out that I have damaged esophagus from acid reflux and a hiatal hernia. Guess what one of the best things to do for this problem???? LOSE WEIGHT!It's funny though, I'm not so scared of those words like I used to be. It really helps to substitute with the words - TAKING CARE OF MY BODY! Deb

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There really is something to reading and rereading the IE book and going through

and over the 10 principles. I am sure I read them all a few months ago but when

I went back over them last week - I was suprised that I hadn't " read " the 10th

one. I was so relieved! (they do mention that if one is not ready for that

priniciple then come back to it later after working on the other priniples)

Because it meant that I could enjoy those nutritional foods! for example - I

have been experimenting with different breads and am finding out that just by

chance the lower calorie ones are tastier than the bagels or sour dough and that

is what they talk about in the Gentle Nutrition. That if the lower calorie

feels just as good - then why not. I was so afraid of food on my diets that i

literally starved and then overate. Now I am beginning to appreciate a good

breakfast and then wait to see what i want for lunch and I love eating real

food. And when the craving comes up for something else at the end of the meal -

I will have it - but now it's usually just a bite or not at all. So now when I

think of what do i really want to eat - i notice that a big bowl of clusters

cereal (which i have legalized and have made peace with) just seems to sweet and

I think of how I love just 2 pieces of toast with fresh cottage cheese and fresh

tomatoes and cucumbers and a large coffee!

I began walking years ago as part of my diet plan and I fell in love with it.

It became a problem when the diet stopped working and I had to increase the pace

even jogging or increase the distance - so now I am going back to just loving

it! the air outside and the people I meet!

I also had a bout with acid reflux and after having an allergic reaction to the

prilosec - realized I was eating too fast and too much at one time so I had to

find a way to stop doing that - which IE fits right into - how about that!

savouring each bite!!

Diane.

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> You know it's funny, we spend all this time deprogramming old diet mentality

and then eventually find that we ultimately begin to turn back to the foods that

we associated with dieting.

>

> The difference it, we've found out for ourselves through self-care that these

foods and activities help support our health. Which is entirely different than

dieting - yet are quite similar to an outsider.

>

> I flipped open my IE book last night to read and it landed in the exercise

section. (DAMN!) I'm starting to contemplate exercise in my mind - for my good

health that is.

>

> I mentioned before about getting food stuck in my throat. Well it turns out

that I have damaged esophagus from acid reflux and a hiatal hernia. Guess what

one of the best things to do for this problem???? LOSE WEIGHT!

>

> It's funny though, I'm not so scared of those words like I used to be. It

really helps to substitute with the words - TAKING CARE OF MY BODY!

>

> Deb

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You are so right Deb, I find it very sad that the medical 'magic cure' is a pat

answer - lose weight. It would be much more helpful if one were helped to

understand that excess pressure from a over full stomach causes digesting food

(containing stomach acid) to be forced back UP the esophagus where the acid

damages the lining of it. Eating less/smaller amounts will relieve this as much

as decreasing mass in one's body which COULD also create 'room' resistance

within the digestive system.

I've found that if I sit more upright and chew longer before swallowing I have

much less 'reflux' occurrences. And to hammer the point home more, my neighbor,

a very skinny little guy, has this problem too. So its NOT simply 'weight'

related.

Taking care of yourself, however works best for YOU, is what you need to find.

Too bad the medical profession passes out its 'take-this-for-that' pat answers

instead of working WITH you to resolve what ails you.

Best to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> You know it's funny, we spend all this time deprogramming old diet mentality

and then eventually find that we ultimately begin to turn back to the foods that

we associated with dieting.

>

> The difference it, we've found out for ourselves through self-care that these

foods and activities help support our health. Which is entirely different than

dieting - yet are quite similar to an outsider.

>

> I flipped open my IE book last night to read and it landed in the exercise

section. (DAMN!) I'm starting to contemplate exercise in my mind - for my good

health that is.

>

> I mentioned before about getting food stuck in my throat. Well it turns out

that I have damaged esophagus from acid reflux and a hiatal hernia. Guess what

one of the best things to do for this problem???? LOSE WEIGHT!

>

> It's funny though, I'm not so scared of those words like I used to be. It

really helps to substitute with the words - TAKING CARE OF MY BODY!

>

> Deb

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[Guest guest]

When I am able to operate outside of the either/or, right/wrong, good/bad mentality, I find there is so much more room for choices and peace that comes from finding what really works for me.

Thanks for this post katcha.

Liz

To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: jain_daugh@...Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:51:49 +0000Subject: Re: Legalizing boneless skinless chicken and being receptive to exercise

You are so right Deb, I find it very sad that the medical 'magic cure' is a pat answer - lose weight. It would be much more helpful if one were helped to understand that excess pressure from a over full stomach causes digesting food (containing stomach acid) to be forced back UP the esophagus where the acid damages the lining of it. Eating less/smaller amounts will relieve this as much as decreasing mass in one's body which COULD also create 'room' resistance within the digestive system. I've found that if I sit more upright and chew longer before swallowing I have much less 'reflux' occurrences. And to hammer the point home more, my neighbor, a very skinny little guy, has this problem too. So its NOT simply 'weight' related. Taking care of yourself, however works best for YOU, is what you need to find. Too bad the medical profession passes out its 'take-this-for-that' pat answers instead of working WITH you to resolve what ails you. Best to you, KatchaIEing since March 2007>> You know it's funny, we spend all this time deprogramming old diet mentality and then eventually find that we ultimately begin to turn back to the foods that we associated with dieting. > > The difference it, we've found out for ourselves through self-care that these foods and activities help support our health. Which is entirely different than dieting - yet are quite similar to an outsider. > > I flipped open my IE book last night to read and it landed in the exercise section. (DAMN!) I'm starting to contemplate exercise in my mind - for my good health that is. > > I mentioned before about getting food stuck in my throat. Well it turns out that I have damaged esophagus from acid reflux and a hiatal hernia. Guess what one of the best things to do for this problem???? LOSE WEIGHT!> > It's funny though, I'm not so scared of those words like I used to be. It really helps to substitute with the words - TAKING CARE OF MY BODY! > > Deb>

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Liz, one of the basics of dieting is to NOT TRUST yourself. This is the reason

we all fear foods when we begin IE. And while its hard to immediately switch

your trust back, perhaps you can rely on the experiences of many others who have

walked this path before? Legalizing is hard work, but it pays back so well.

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> I think a part of me has been scared since I started IE that my eating

disorder could just see it as permission to eat only the foods it likes...

> Liz

[Guest guest]

YES! Great news, Liz!

Deb

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> I am really looking forward to the IE books. It's actually a relief to know

that there is talk of nutrition and exercise in the books -- I've been sort of

making a go of it on my own and just eating when i am hungry and with the goal

of stopping when I am moderately full.

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> Eventually, the next goal with my dietician is to start noticing what my body

wants to eat and when, and then to move on to add excerise to the mix.

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> I think a part of me has been scared since I started IE that my eating

disorder could just see it as permission to eat only the foods it likes...

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> I had a good breakfast this morning, realized I wasn't all that hungry, so I

want to say it was a small breakfast, but I guess it was just what I needed.

It's nice not to feel so full all the time.

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> Liz

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> To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> From: dmackes@...

> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:32:31 +0000

> Subject: Legalizing boneless skinless chicken and

being receptive to exercise

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> You know it's funny, we spend all this time deprogramming old diet mentality

and then eventually find that we ultimately begin to turn back to the foods that

we associated with dieting.

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> The difference it, we've found out for ourselves through self-care that these

foods and activities help support our health. Which is entirely different than

dieting - yet are quite similar to an outsider.

>

> I flipped open my IE book last night to read and it landed in the exercise

section. (DAMN!) I'm starting to contemplate exercise in my mind - for my good

health that is.

>

> I mentioned before about getting food stuck in my throat. Well it turns out

that I have damaged esophagus from acid reflux and a hiatal hernia. Guess what

one of the best things to do for this problem???? LOSE WEIGHT!

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> It's funny though, I'm not so scared of those words like I used to be. It

really helps to substitute with the words - TAKING CARE OF MY BODY!

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> Deb

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That's awesome, Diane! I hope to get to the point of enjoying exercise! Come

to think of it, I also seem to be satisfied with these really great homemade

granola bars I've been making. I have a mental block when it comes to fruit and

vegies so I sneak dried fruit into granola and veggies into soup! I really

havent craved the sugar and high fat stuff. And it does seem to be helping my

stomach. My poor stomach! I wish I could give it a hug and tell it it's going

to be alright. - I guess a nice coating of maalox would feel like a hug?

Ok, getting a little silly now tee hee.

Deb

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> > You know it's funny, we spend all this time deprogramming old diet mentality

and then eventually find that we ultimately begin to turn back to the foods that

we associated with dieting.

> >

> > The difference it, we've found out for ourselves through self-care that

these foods and activities help support our health. Which is entirely different

than dieting - yet are quite similar to an outsider.

> >

> > I flipped open my IE book last night to read and it landed in the exercise

section. (DAMN!) I'm starting to contemplate exercise in my mind - for my good

health that is.

> >

> > I mentioned before about getting food stuck in my throat. Well it turns out

that I have damaged esophagus from acid reflux and a hiatal hernia. Guess what

one of the best things to do for this problem???? LOSE WEIGHT!

> >

> > It's funny though, I'm not so scared of those words like I used to be. It

really helps to substitute with the words - TAKING CARE OF MY BODY!

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> > Deb

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[Guest guest]

Deb, you ARE giving your stomach a 'hug' each time you take care of it - be it

feeding it what it can best digest or in a manner that honors its capabilities.

If maalox is the best thing for it (now), that's a 'treat' too ;-)

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

> My poor stomach! I wish I could give it a hug and tell it it's going to be

alright. - I guess a nice coating of maalox would feel like a hug? Ok,

getting a little silly now tee hee.

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> Deb

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[Guest guest]

You are so right Katcha, that's why finding this group feels so important to me, I believe it works for others so I know it can work for me.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: jain_daugh@...Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:57:25 +0000Subject: Re: Legalizing boneless skinless chicken and being receptive to exercise

Liz, one of the basics of dieting is to NOT TRUST yourself. This is the reason we all fear foods when we begin IE. And while its hard to immediately switch your trust back, perhaps you can rely on the experiences of many others who have walked this path before? Legalizing is hard work, but it pays back so well.BEST to you, KatchaIEing since March 2007> > I think a part of me has been scared since I started IE that my eating disorder could just see it as permission to eat only the foods it likes...> Liz

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I think I didn't realize until reading this post today that I had sort of un-legalized certain healthy foods, or certain eating goals, because i thought that i was " supposed " to eat other foods, or not supposed to avoid certain things.

in case that doesnt make any sense... like i always enjoy a peanut butter cookie. but yesterday it occurred to me for the first time to ask myself, " do you REALLY want that cookie, or is it just that you are hungry, and the cookie is quick and easy energy? "  

i think i always felt before with IE that if i wanted the cookie i almost HAD to have it.but now i realized it's okay to gently encourage myself to make a healthier choice... unless i REALLY want that cookie, in which case i will absolutely honor that desire. but i am realizing it's really ok to say no to myself sometimes, in a gentle way, or at least to question myself first.

i also pulled out my IE book last night and was re-reading the part about Gentle Nutrition. i will add though that i dont agree with all of their dietary advice... i dont actually think that putting jam on bread is healthier than putting butter on it, for example -- i think the sugar in jam has more of a negative effect on how i feel than butter... the fat slows down the digestion process so you are less likely to have a spike and then crash in your blood sugar.... i digress but i guess my point is that even the authors of IE are just one more source of EXternal input...