Re: one month trial complete

[Guest guest]

,

What are your other options?

You have seen the science behind the diet. Following it will

allow the two of you to heal. Eating regular food will not be

healthy for the two of you.

If he has been having illegal antibiotics and illegal food, one

month is not a long enough trial.

I am sorry, but I don't remember how you started. Did you start

with the intro and add foods slowly, using only well-cooked fruits

and veggies?

If you have not been having good stools, it was probably too

soon to introduce nuts.

As far as the cost is concerned, we save cookies and nut based

foods for special occasions. No different than we would if he

were on a " normal " diet. Kids don't need cookies every day. I do

know and understand that it is more costly to eat a healthy diet

than it is to eat junk, that's for sure. A pack of bologna is certainly

less expensive than a pack of chicken breast. But in the long

run, the chicken breast will be better healthwise.

What have all the antibiotics been for?

Have you been using probiotics and/or yogurt?

Sorry for all of the questions. Just trying to be helpful.

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 17 months

[Guest guest]

, I must say I agree with Jody, if Liam has had illegals

introduced, the healing might be too slow in the beginning for you to

really see it. Perhaps the infections are related to healing. Many

children get sick at first - the body is " re-organizing, " if you

will. As far as support, I know that if I give my in-laws, or baby-

sitter instructions, it will never carry the weight of directions

given by " The Doctor. " As soon as I mention that The Doctor says

absolutely no foods other than what is in his lunch-box, people pay

more attention to the directions. Perhaps you can try a month,

starting with the intro, and really be neurotic about legal only

foods. Any way your DH can learn the science behind this diet?

Helen, mom to (9, ASD, SCD 4/04)

[Guest guest]

> ,

>

> What are your other options?

Go back to the GF diet.

>

> If he has been having illegal antibiotics

But he can't avoid the illegal antibiotics.

>

> If you have not been having good stools, it was probably too

> soon to introduce nuts.

But that's the only way to stop the screaming tantrums. He's only 2 years old.

He can't

understand what we're trying to do.

> Kids don't need cookies every day.

It's not just cookies. It's the pancakes or waffles, crackers or other such

foods. He DOES

need those things. If he doesn't have those things he will steal his brother's

food. No, I

can't put brother on SCD because then the cost goes up even more. When I was on

SCD by

myself, I never made any of the baked goods. He won't eat any fruits or

veggies, so the

nut baked goods are the only things he'll eat. When I tried withhold the baked

goods to

" make " him snack on fruits and veggies, he opened the fridge and started dumping

everything on the floor looking for what he wants. He then did the same with

the cabinet.

A pack of bologna is certainly

> less expensive than a pack of chicken breast.

It's not that because even before SCD we didn't eat much junk. It's the cost of

the

nutbutter, almond flours, legal extracts, ect.

> What have all the antibiotics been for?

About a week before he started SCD, the surgical tubes in his ears fell out. He

has had

continual ear infections since they fell out and will do so until the surgeon

agrees to put

new ones in. He also has enlarged adnoids and overlarge tonsils that get

infected at the

drop of a hat. He can't have either of those removed for a couple years. He

currently has

strep throat.

> Have you been using probiotics and/or yogurt?

Yes. The whole family has been eating homemade yogurt since BEFORE anyone

started

SCD.

[Guest guest]

.. Perhaps the infections are related to healing.

No, his ear tubes fell out and we're back in the infection cycle that was

present prior to the

first surgery.

Any way your DH can learn the science behind this diet?

>

DH does not believe the science behind it. When I first heard about SCD, I gave

a copy of

it to my stepfather, a microbiologist, to read. He then gave it to some

collegues to look

over. They all said it sounded like quakery.

[Guest guest]

,

You may not like this suggestion, but I will offer it anyway.

Have you done a completely dairy free trial of at least a month?

My son had chronic ear infections from 2 months of age until age

3.5, even with tubes in his ears and quite a while of prophylactic

antibiotics.

At 3.5 we removed all casein and the ear infections stopped that

month - completely. We were gf at the time. While GFCF, the

slightest cross contamination of dairy gave him another ear

infection. The fall before we started SCD, he had three ear

infections back to back. I began searching everything I was

feeding him. One thing I was giving him had been CF before, but

the company began making a butter flavored version of the same

product. When I removed that product, the ear infections

stopped. We started SCD 2 months after that.

We have been on SCD for almost 18 months now. We started

goat dairy very cautiously last summer after about 6 months, but

really didn't start using it much until about 9 months into the diet.

It's been about 8 months of using goat dairy. This past winter

(12 months into the diet), I gave my son one bite of cow cheese.

He got a slightly stuffy nose. Nothing else. I was shocked. (We

did this with his full cooperation. He chose to try the cow

cheese, knowing that he might end up having to get an antibiotic

shot.) I waited another 5 months and just recently I have given

him organic raw milk (cow) cheese. Nothing has happened.

His gut is healing and his severe allergy is going away.

Amazing!!

All I can say is that after almost 4 years of GF, and 3 years CF,

my son's gut had not healed at all. Now, 18 months into SCD, I

am seeing improvements I had honestly thought would never

happen in his entire life- that he could eat cow dairy products

without becoming really sick.

Did you try the sneaky veggie pancakes? Avocado meatloaf?

Sneaky meatballs? You can even sneak cauliflower into chicken

nuggets. Chicken pancakes? (you can mix cauliflower in them

too).

As for the dumping behavior, I would get a fridge lock.

Just trying to offer you some hope. I've been where you are with

a sick child. My son is sooo much better now.

Also, how about opting for antibiotic injections rather than giving

him the illegal syrups? The shots will help to clear the infection,

but won't tear his gut up so badly. Bicillin is effective against

strep. Rocephin will clear bacterial ear infections.

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 17 months

[Guest guest]

I can just say from my personal experience that only after 3 wks of completely

legal SCD did my son see perfect trophies - he has ulcerative colitis and was

having bloody stools several times a day before SCD. I can't say enough about

this diet.

My younger son I suspect is celiac. He is taking longer. I see yellow stools

every few days and then back to normal stools. It suspect it's because of

dealing with the small intestines instead of the large intestines since

nutrients are absorbed through the small intestines. After seeing what this

diet did for my older son, who was a lot sicker than my younger one, I am not

ready to give up yet. My younger one is also not completely legal because I

still BF so he get's lactose from my milk. So, I think I need to be more

patient.

I get aggrivated at the cost, too. But, I don't use nut butters in my cookies

and the kids both love them. That keeps costs down, too. And pancakes don't

take much flour so they are cheap to me. It was when they were eating a pound

of bacon a day that I was thinking this was going to be an expensive venture! I

was afraid of using eggs... which aren't a problem for them now. And after a

week of no starches, these kids eat fruits and veggies with a vengeance. I just

kept offering until they started eating it. My younger son is 15 months old.

Once he was completely legal for a week, he didn't crave the sugar and starch.

I wonder if the antibiotics aren't creating a sugar craving for your son? Just

a theory.

If my older son wasn't so sick, I might have given up, too - but I'm not willing

to at this point. I'm going to be stubborn about this. A compounding pharmacy

might be able to do the antibiotics sweetened with Glucose, which would be legal

- or as legal as you can get. And they would still taste good.

Robbie

Re: one month trial complete

> ,

>

> What are your other options?

Go back to the GF diet.

>

> If he has been having illegal antibiotics

But he can't avoid the illegal antibiotics.

>

> If you have not been having good stools, it was probably too

> soon to introduce nuts.

But that's the only way to stop the screaming tantrums. He's only 2 years

old. He can't

understand what we're trying to do.

> Kids don't need cookies every day.

It's not just cookies. It's the pancakes or waffles, crackers or other such

foods. He DOES

need those things. If he doesn't have those things he will steal his

brother's food. No, I

can't put brother on SCD because then the cost goes up even more. When I was

on SCD by

myself, I never made any of the baked goods. He won't eat any fruits or

veggies, so the

nut baked goods are the only things he'll eat. When I tried withhold the

baked goods to

" make " him snack on fruits and veggies, he opened the fridge and started

dumping

everything on the floor looking for what he wants. He then did the same with

the cabinet.

A pack of bologna is certainly

> less expensive than a pack of chicken breast.

It's not that because even before SCD we didn't eat much junk. It's the cost

of the

nutbutter, almond flours, legal extracts, ect.

> What have all the antibiotics been for?

About a week before he started SCD, the surgical tubes in his ears fell out.

He has had

continual ear infections since they fell out and will do so until the surgeon

agrees to put

new ones in. He also has enlarged adnoids and overlarge tonsils that get

infected at the

drop of a hat. He can't have either of those removed for a couple years. He

currently has

strep throat.

> Have you been using probiotics and/or yogurt?

Yes. The whole family has been eating homemade yogurt since BEFORE anyone

started

SCD.

[Guest guest]

I also meant to add that antibiotics in and of themselves are counterproductive

to SCD because they kill off friendly bacteria. My son's ulcerative colitis was

antibiotic induced. So, I imagine that as long as he is on an antibiotic, his

healing will be much slower.

My husband was skeptical as well - but after seeing these results with my 4 yr

old child who has UC (I posted about him a few minutes ago) he is telling people

at his work about this diet.

Robbie

one month trial complete

When I put Liam on the diet, I decided to give it one month to see some

results. Well, that

month is up and DH and I are not sure we want to continue. Beside one day of

normal

trophies, there has been no change. DH is concerned with the increase in our

grocery

spending. After all, a $10 jar of almond butter makes a single batch cookies

or pancakes

that last 2-3 days. I think part of the problem is the meds. He's had 2 ear

infections and

now strep throat. His doctor insisted on giving pediatric (illegal)antibiotic

syrups because

she said there was no way to makes sure he'd drink whatever pills were crushed

into.

Since his ear tubes fell out last month, I know we're going to go through this

until we see

the surgeon. I'm also having a hard time with other caregivers. His

grandparents don't

seem to understand " he can only eat what I send with him " . Last week, he

spent the

afternoon with his grandparents, the first time during the month, and his

lunchbox came

home full. The did not give him the food I sent. I wonder if it would be

easier when he's

old enough to tell people he can't have anything his mommy didn't give him.

DH wonders

if this diet is neccesary. At his last well-baby visit, his growth was fine,

95% for weight,

95% for height. Just not sure where to go from here...

and Liam

both celiac

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

" Well, that month is up and DH and I are not sure we want to

continue. Beside one day of normal trophies, there has been no

change. DH is concerned with the increase in our grocery

spending. After all, a $10 jar of almond butter makes a single

batch cookies or pancakes that last 2-3 days "

This is not necessary at all.

" His doctor insisted on giving pediatric (illegal)antibiotic syrups

because she said there was no way to makes sure he'd drink whatever

pills were crushed into "

Seems SCD did not get a fair chance at all.

" I'm also having a hard time with other caregivers. His

grandparents don't seem to understand " he can only eat what I send

with him " . Last week, he spent the afternoon with his grandparents,

the first time during the month, and his lunchbox came home full.

The did not give him the food I sent "

Scd did not get a chance at all here either.

" DH wonders if this diet is neccesary "

Looking at things from a distance, there really WAS no SCD in the

month you are talking about. Full of illegals. Not meaning to be

harsh or anything, but how are you going to judge this in a fair

way?

" At his last well-baby visit, his growth was fine, 95% for weight,

95% for height "

All talk about weight in the previous posts does not mean that SCD

is about weight and growth. It is just a thing that stands out with

some kiddos.

Quick question: are you doing the diet yourself?

Marjan

http://specificfoodsforspecificminds.blogspot.com/

.. Just not sure where to go from here...

[Guest guest]

" When I first heard about SCD, I gave a copy of

it to my stepfather, a microbiologist, to read. He then gave it to

some collegues to look over. They all said it sounded like quakery. "

But what are your own personal thoughts about all this , it

sounds as though you are very disappointed in everything.

Marjan

http://specificfoodsforspecificminds.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

We had to start doing

> some preventative things like " Flonase " and that helped

> her have less sinus infections.

We asked about that but was told he was too young. We have started Claritin,

which has

helped somewhat.

We started using antibiotic shots as

> well as the ear drops to avoid the problems of oral medicine

> through the gut.

I didn't know that was an option. The augmentin really tears up his stomach.

Every time

he takes it, he get a diaper rash so bad that his buttocks bleed.

[Guest guest]

> Have you done a completely dairy free trial of at least a month?

>

I thought it wouldn't be neccesary since he tested negative for dairy allergy.

I could try it,

but I'm concerned about calcium.

> Did you try the sneaky veggie pancakes? Avocado meatloaf?

> Sneaky meatballs? You can even sneak cauliflower into chicken

> nuggets. Chicken pancakes? (you can mix cauliflower in them

> too).

>

He'll eat things like that. I make him zucchini latkes (I think I got these

from the scdinfo

yahoo group)that he like and he'll eat my chicken apple meatballs, but it's the

snakcing

that an issue. He doesn't want protien as a snack.

> As for the dumping behavior, I would get a fridge lock.

>

We've been through a couple already. He brakes them through brute force. He

has also

broken several safety locks on drawers, too.

> Also, how about opting for antibiotic injections rather than giving

> him the illegal syrups?

I just found out about that option. We'll finish this round of antibiotics and

discuss that

when the next infection comes.

[Guest guest]

After all, a $10 jar of almond butter makes a single

> batch cookies or pancakes that last 2-3 days "

>

> This is not necessary at all.

Then what do you give you child to snack on? My child is a typical 2 yr old who

refuses to

eat anything that " looks funny " .

>

> Looking at things from a distance, there really WAS no SCD in the

> month you are talking about. Full of illegals. Not meaning to be

> harsh or anything, but how are you going to judge this in a fair

> way?

That's part of the trial. If it's totally impractical to our lifestyle, it

won't work. Since total

compliance is required and it seems that we can't be totally compliant, it will

never work.

>

> Quick question: are you doing the diet yourself?

Yes, and I have had an increase of symptoms while on SCD. Several people on the

scdinfo

list say that die-off can last 5-6wks, so I'll stay on it another month to see

if the increase

D goes away. Right now, I can barely leave my house.

and Liam

both celiac

[Guest guest]

> But what are your own personal thoughts about all this , it

> sounds as though you are very disappointed in everything.

>

> Marjan

I am. It sounded like a miracle cure, but seems like it's impractical. I

shared SCD with

some Celiac messege board friends and we've all done the one month trial

together. All 5

of them have said they thought it was too impractical and restricive with very

little results.

and Liam

both celiac

[Guest guest]

,

If it's totally impractical to our lifestyle, it won't work.

Since total

> compliance is required and it seems that we can't be totally

compliant, it will never work.

I would like to say that it is possible to be totally compliant, but

it does require a good deal of resolve and the time element as

well. When one has tried all other more convenient routes and

failed as many of us have, the resolve is easier to muster.

In retrospect though, I wish I had done this first, because test

results suggest that the medicines we were using were ineffective at

best. Plus all the emotional trauma the kids suffer as they are

perceived to be different from others, and the time I spent unable

to earn income and looking for answers while trying to manage each

crisis that erupted. I wish this diet had been around when my son

was much younger.

Best wishes,

Kathy H.

SCD day 114, 10 & 8

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> " We started using antibiotic shots as

> > well as the ear drops to avoid the problems of oral medicine

> > through the gut.

>

> I didn't know that was an option. The augmentin really tears up his

stomach. Every time

> he takes it, he get a diaper rash so bad that his buttocks bleed.

> "

Hi , My child got IV antibiotics for two days at ONE MONTH old for a

fever in the hospital. The fever was a little high so that was their

routine procedure to give the antibiotics! Biggest mistake in my life.

When we got home from the hospital she had a vaginal yeast infection and

could NOT breast feed anymore due to allergy to cow's milk or whatever in my

milk. Had to wean her immediatly due to all the aweful reactions she had.

A few days later she got the Hep. B shot. Antibiotics again at 3 months, 5

and 6 months............all about the same time of the immunizations. It

completely made her body limp with hypotonia. I swear at 6 months she just

stopped looking at me and got floppy. Her little body just couldn't take

it. Then at one year old I took out all the dairy which only was yogurt (I

did not make that connection when she was a newborn) and in 3 days she

starting giving us eye contact, and holding her bottle (which she could not

do at all before, she would just slap at it). I am telling you this because

antibiotics do play a huge role in compromising the body, gut and mind.

Please be an advocate and TELL your pediatrician what YOU want not the other

way around. I started saying no antibiotics years ago and they had to do

shots or cortisporin ear drops for me because I refused the oral stuff.

Thank God I did because after recent testing her immune system and gut is so

compromised already it's no telling what more damage could of been done to

her. Take care,

Kathy, mom to Hannah-13, NT and Abby-9, ASD, UC and SCD restarted one month

ago

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

" After all, a $10 jar of almond butter makes a single

batch cookies or pancakes that last 2-3 days "

" This is not necessary at all "

" Then what do you give you child to snack on "

What I meant was the huge amount of money. $10 for a jar of almond

butter seems outrageous to me when I can buy whole blanched almonds

for about $5 a kilo and make my own almond butter at almost no

expense.

Regarding snacks, we give carrots, honey nougat, peanutbutter

caramels and ripe bananas. Sometimes a bit of bacon or some yoghurt.

When my kids do not like the way a well-tasting snack looks, then

it's bad luck for them. It's either the snack I offer or no snack at

all.

Marjan

http://specificfoodsforspecificminds.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

" All 5 of them have said they thought it was too impractical and

restricive with very little results "

Well then stop.

There is no way that you will successfully implement SCD without

being convinced of doing the right thing. Let alone the lack of

support from your family.

Marjan

http://specificfoodsforspecificminds.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

Thanks for sharing. My sickest child had some similar events at

early ages, but not with the same frequenty..antibiotic IV and

antiviral IV at age 5 month(one week straight), with a vaccine 5

days later...then a trip to the emergency room ten days later

because of a severe allergic reaction to strawberry yogurt. It just

breaks my heart hearing your story, but it must be heard for people

to sort all this out - I've got some nieces and nephews who are

infants.

Thanks,

Kathy H.

>

> >

> >

> > " We started using antibiotic shots as

> > > well as the ear drops to avoid the problems of oral medicine

> > > through the gut.

> >

> > I didn't know that was an option. The augmentin really tears up

his

> stomach. Every time

> > he takes it, he get a diaper rash so bad that his buttocks bleed.

> > "

>

>

> Hi , My child got IV antibiotics for two days at ONE MONTH

old for a

> fever in the hospital. The fever was a little high so that was

their

> routine procedure to give the antibiotics! Biggest mistake in my

life.

> When we got home from the hospital she had a vaginal yeast

infection and

> could NOT breast feed anymore due to allergy to cow's milk or

whatever in my

> milk. Had to wean her immediatly due to all the aweful reactions

she had.

> A few days later she got the Hep. B shot. Antibiotics again at 3

months, 5

> and 6 months............all about the same time of the

immunizations. It

> completely made her body limp with hypotonia. I swear at 6 months

she just

> stopped looking at me and got floppy. Her little body just

couldn't take

> it. Then at one year old I took out all the dairy which only was

yogurt (I

> did not make that connection when she was a newborn) and in 3 days

she

> starting giving us eye contact, and holding her bottle (which she

could not

> do at all before, she would just slap at it). I am telling you

this because

> antibiotics do play a huge role in compromising the body, gut and

mind.

> Please be an advocate and TELL your pediatrician what YOU want not

the other

> way around. I started saying no antibiotics years ago and they

had to do

> shots or cortisporin ear drops for me because I refused the oral

stuff.

> Thank God I did because after recent testing her immune system and

gut is so

> compromised already it's no telling what more damage could of been

done to

> her. Take care,

> Kathy, mom to Hannah-13, NT and Abby-9, ASD, UC and SCD restarted

one month

> ago

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

following

> websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

.. I started saying no antibiotics years ago and they had to do

> shots or cortisporin ear drops for me because I refused the oral stuff.

>

Our problem is that we need to get Liam infection-free long enough to do the

surgery. He

was on antibiotics his entire first year. Forty-eight hours after finishing the

round, the

infections would come back. As soon as he had the ear tubes, all the infections

stopped,

not just the ears, but the strep, tonsilitis, sinusitis, everything. For the 9

months that the

tubes were in, he was totally healthy. I know that once we get the tubes back

in, he'll be

healthy again. The surgeon refuses to do the surgery as long as there is any

kind of

infection present.

[Guest guest]

when I can buy whole blanched almonds

> for about $5 a kilo and make my own almond butter at almost no

> expense.

I tried making my own in the blender and it was a big mess. The almonds didn't

even get

fine enough to call " flour " , let alone butter.

> Regarding snacks, we give carrots, honey nougat, peanutbutter

> caramels and ripe bananas.

He will sometimes eat bananas. I'm glad to see that someone is giving candy.

With all the

talk about eliminating the sweets, I wasn't sure what to do, I'll try making

the honey

nougat and the caramels. The funny thing is, his taste changes from day to day.

As I'm

sitting here writing this, he has eaten half of a cut-up watermelon. Last week,

when I put

some on his plate, he pointed to it and said " no like that " without even tasting

it.

[Guest guest]

Well, that is what I was saying. The rocefin (not sure of spelling) or

penicillin is broad spectrum and will kill anything.

It just doesn't go through the gut.

Kathy

> >

>

> " The surgeon refuses to do the surgery as long as there is any kind of

> infection present. "

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

That's a nice development I'd say. Good luck, OK?

Kathy H.

SCD 114

> when I can buy whole blanched almonds

> > for about $5 a kilo and make my own almond butter at almost no

> > expense.

> I tried making my own in the blender and it was a big mess. The

almonds didn't even get

> fine enough to call " flour " , let alone butter.

>

> > Regarding snacks, we give carrots, honey nougat, peanutbutter

> > caramels and ripe bananas.

>

> He will sometimes eat bananas. I'm glad to see that someone is

giving candy. With all the

> talk about eliminating the sweets, I wasn't sure what to do, I'll

try making the honey

> nougat and the caramels. The funny thing is, his taste changes

from day to day. As I'm

> sitting here writing this, he has eaten half of a cut-up

watermelon. Last week, when I put

> some on his plate, he pointed to it and said " no like that "

without even tasting it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

In Elaines book, she says that Celiac patients need to stay on the diet for a

year. This is not a get well quick plan - but a get well forever plan. If you

don't think it is worth doing, then obviously you shouldn't do it. But I can't

dispute the results. I just wish you'd give it a fair test. When your gut is

that damaged, and celiac is very damaging to the gut, the healing doesn't take

place overnight.

If you haven't read the book, you really need to. Just check it out at the

library.

Robbie

Re: one month trial complete

> But what are your own personal thoughts about all this , it

> sounds as though you are very disappointed in everything.

>

> Marjan

I am. It sounded like a miracle cure, but seems like it's impractical. I

shared SCD with

some Celiac messege board friends and we've all done the one month trial

together. All 5

of them have said they thought it was too impractical and restricive with very

little results.

and Liam

both celiac

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

If you are concerned about calcium, you need to take him off dairy.

We all have been sold a bill of goods. Milk does not give kids

calcium. The type of calcium in milk cannot be absorbed by the human

body. Not only that, the protein in milk actually leeches calcium

from the body. Statistics show that in the U.S., we have the highest

per person consumption of milk in the world. We also have the

highest rate of osteoperosis. If milk is so good for our bones, we

should have the lowest rate of osteoperosis. I nursed my 3rd son

until he was 14 months old. After that, I chose not to give him

anything " white " to drink - just water or juice. At two years of age

I had him tested for essential elements. His level of calcium in his

body was quite high. He had never been given a calcium supplement

but he periodically eat broccoli.

I believe you previously mentioned your son has celiac disease. Most

celiacs have a dairy intolerance which lasts until there is healing

to the intestines. This cannot be detected by an allergy test and

besides, allergy tests for children 2 and under are pretty inaccurate

anyway.

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> > Have you done a completely dairy free trial of at least a month?

> >

> I thought it wouldn't be neccesary since he tested negative for

dairy allergy. I could try it,

> but I'm concerned about calcium.

[Guest guest]

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My son was dairy free for 4 years and his calcium levels were

always good when tested.

Green leafy veggies have calcium and you can use Kirkman's

calcium powder and add it to anything, hot or cold.

I would give it a shot. My doctor talked me out of it for a long time

and then still wouldn't acknowledge that it had been the dairy

causing the ear infections when they stopped.

My son tested negative on a skin test for dairy allergy, but it made

him very, very sick.

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 17 months