Re: Need help with sleeping... 5 htp??

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Need help with sleeping... 5 htp??

Good morning,

I have the WORST problems with staying asleep and also with going to

sleep. The main thing I use is Super Snooze with 3 mg of melatonin

& other herbals. I take 2. Can go to sleep generally within 45

minutes with this.... However, I can't stay asleep for no more than

3-4 hours. Alot of time I'll take another sleep aid to sleep

another 3-4 hours.

I'm still awaiting my saliva tests, but am placing a vit. order this

am and wanting to go ahead to get something

Any suggestions?

How about 5 htp? In an email for supplemental support it said to

use this and up it to you're sleeping all night.

Anyone tried 5 htp? How much do you take? Does it have any hang

over effects?

Last night I feel asleep without aid, but awoke in 2 1/2 hrs, took

my Super Snooze then but slept only 2 more hours. I've been

catching up on my emails from here since 3:30am.

This is SOO frustrating because now I'm all achy, tired, with brain

fog.

Thanks,

S.

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Hi Cindi!

Wow, looks like you are taking too much melatonin. Maybe it's not

really 3 mg. Which brand is it? Is that 3 mcg and not 3 mg? I

believe you need four mcg to = 1 mg. Don't take more than 3 mg a

day! I also had a sleeping problem. From info in book Tired of

Being Tired (pg 168) this is what I use:

1) 1 mg melatonin* - up 1 a week if still not working (max 3 mg).

***IMPORTANT - take 3 hrs after sunset, not at bedtime!***

2) 100-200 mg phosphatidylserine (up to 200 after one week if not

working)

3) 150 Valerian root.

4) 50 mg 5-HTP

After taking ambien and sonata for months and not being able to

sleep without I'm finally falling asleep! Started out falling

asleep then waking 1-3 times. Now sleeping thru the night

occasionally waking up. 17 days now.

But I also upped my thyroid meds which is important to be on the

right meds.

She also recommends:

300 mg passion flower

300 mg hops

150 mg kava kava root

or

100 mg 5-H GABA

or

500 mg GABA

or

100-200 mg 5-HTP (increase in one wk to 200) + 25 mg B6

>

> Good morning,

>

> I have the WORST problems with staying asleep and also with going

to

> sleep. The main thing I use is Super Snooze with 3 mg of

melatonin

> & other herbals. I take 2. Can go to sleep generally within 45

> minutes with this.... However, I can't stay asleep for no more

than

> 3-4 hours. Alot of time I'll take another sleep aid to sleep

> another 3-4 hours.

>

> I'm still awaiting my saliva tests, but am placing a vit. order

this

> am and wanting to go ahead to get something

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> How about 5 htp? In an email for supplemental support it said to

> use this and up it to you're sleeping all night.

>

> Anyone tried 5 htp? How much do you take? Does it have any hang

> over effects?

>

> Last night I feel asleep without aid, but awoke in 2 1/2 hrs, took

> my Super Snooze then but slept only 2 more hours. I've been

> catching up on my emails from here since 3:30am.

>

> This is SOO frustrating because now I'm all achy, tired, with

brain

> fog.

>

> Thanks,

> S.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply. I'll seek to get some of your suggestions.

I'm taking 2 tablets of 3 mg of Melatonin in Super Snooze (also has

calcium- 100 mg, magn-50mg, Valerian Root- 100 mg, Hops- 75 mg,

Chamomile-75 mg, Passion Flower- 50 mg). But I still only sleep

about 3 hours. So, I must be needing something else. I don't think

that's too much melatonin.

By the way... this is S. (not Cindi). Sometimes this gets to

be confusing and it doesn't really matter. Cindi seems so nice and

supportive on this website. I don't mind being confused with her.

((smiles))

> >

> > Good morning,

> >

> > I have the WORST problems with staying asleep and also with

going

> to

> > sleep. The main thing I use is Super Snooze with 3 mg of

> melatonin

> > & other herbals. I take 2. Can go to sleep generally within 45

> > minutes with this.... However, I can't stay asleep for no more

> than

> > 3-4 hours. Alot of time I'll take another sleep aid to sleep

> > another 3-4 hours.

> >

> > I'm still awaiting my saliva tests, but am placing a vit. order

> this

> > am and wanting to go ahead to get something

> >

> > Any suggestions?

> >

> > How about 5 htp? In an email for supplemental support it said

to

> > use this and up it to you're sleeping all night.

> >

> > Anyone tried 5 htp? How much do you take? Does it have any

hang

> > over effects?

> >

> > Last night I feel asleep without aid, but awoke in 2 1/2 hrs,

took

> > my Super Snooze then but slept only 2 more hours. I've been

> > catching up on my emails from here since 3:30am.

> >

> > This is SOO frustrating because now I'm all achy, tired, with

> brain

> > fog.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > S.

[Guest guest]

actually the mcg is a metric unit, so:

1mg = 1000mcg

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> Hi Cindi!

>

> Wow, looks like you are taking too much melatonin. Maybe it's not

> really 3 mg. Which brand is it? Is that 3 mcg and not 3 mg? I

> believe you need four mcg to = 1 mg. Don't take more than 3 mg a

> day! I also had a sleeping problem. From info in book Tired of

> Being Tired (pg 168) this is what I use: