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Hi Shell....

I hope you know how much we appreciate all your efforts. The thing I

like best about this site is being able to post whatever's on my mind

wihout worrying about being lambasted, etc. Heaven knows, I need all

the help I can get and if it wasn't for my higher power, whom I

choose as GOD, I certainly wouldn't be here to post.

Thanks for being you, being here for us and.....YOU GO GIRL !!

Regards,

Gordy

-45#

>

> As the founder of this group I do monitor it. I don't believe I

have

> ever posted anything saying a person could not mention god (or

> whatever your higher power is) the last few posts seem to imply

that

> people can not mention there higher power, whatever that may look

> like for you

>

> I have to say that I try very hard to keep this group drama free

and

> a safe place for everyone. I gave up long ago trying to make

> everyone happy. It's just not going to happen. If I ever have a

> problem with someone's post please rest assured I would email you

> personally.

>

> Last week someone thought they could not post recopies. For

goodness

> sake this is a yahoo group. Why would anyone mind if someone posted

> recipes??

>

>

> There seems to be a lot of questions about what's ok and what's

not.

> I encourage you all the re-read the home page. The rules are all

> there. We as a group came up with what we thought would keep this

> group running drama free.

>

> I don't really care what people post at all. I do however care that

> people respect each other and be kind to each other.

>

> I'm going to be really honest here and share a few feelings. I had

> no idea when I started this group how big it was going to become.

> How important it would become to people searching for help and

> answers and support.

>

> I started it because I could not find answers anywhere else. It

> was a selfish move to get help for myself. Since then this group

has

> really taken on a life of its own and it's a wonderful thing. I

take

> zero credit for the the success of this group as it's not the

person

> who starts it; it's the members who make it what it is.

>

> With that said I would like to say running this group has not been

> an easy thing to do. I get emails every day from people who love

how

> I run it, who hate how I run it. People all seem to want to give me

> advice on a million things. We had a bit of turmoil awhile back

and

> lost a lot of really good members. I tried my best to make changes

> so that would not happen again. I have had fights with people I

> don't even no and have hurt people and have been hurt. There have

> been times when I just want to give up and delete this group all

> together. Then I think about what this group is really doing and

how

> much help it gives people and there's no way in the world I would

do

> that. I now have a responsibility to run this group as best I can,

> and god knows im far from perfect but I do try my best.

>

> I read every post that is posted. When I hear people saying oh we

> can't post this or were not allowed to post about blah blah, I

think

> were on earth did they get that information.

>

> I have my own feelings on what I want posted in here and what I

> don't. Sticking to those believes lost this group some very wise

> members. I have made enemies of people who don't even no me. I

have

> acted in ways I would never of acted in person.

>

> I am not sure why I writing all this other then to let you all have

> a bit of insight to some of the things I have gone though. At

this

> point I have learned to let people post what they want as long as

> there not hurting other members.

>

> What would help me a great deal is if you happen to read something

> you don't like, just move on or click delete. Try to understand in

> order for this group to remain drama free and a safe place for us

> all we need to be tolerant of others. We need to understand that

> this group is much bigger then any one person. We all find so much

> in this group and I'd like to ask for your help.

>

> I have open up the calendar and encourage anyone to post anything

> they like. I have been stuck on not posting about a few meetings

> that do really good work. Its wrong of me to not want them posted

> just because I have some personal issues. If you happen to be in

any

> other groups that post about meetings or get-togethers or anything

> you think the members of this group might enjoy or be helped by I

> invite you to post them.

>

> If you have read this far Thank you. Please understand I love this

> group very much and truly try my best to run it as best I can

>

> Shell

> Founder

> 359/193/?

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Shell,

I'm a long time lurker and can attest to all you've written. (your passion for this group and desire to keep it drama free. Good choice of words - and fits the nail on the head!)

I go through periods when I have posted, but I feel like I learn more from so many, I'd rather keep my mouth shut and listen to the elders of this tribe.

I feel sometimes people get their panties in a twist over something. For me, there are so much bigger issues in the world - and in my world ... if something got my panties in a bunch and I felt offended and pushed out of joint beyond repair, I would simply leave the group or email that one person privately to try to iron it out. Too many other things in life to give my time and emotions to than to worry about someone else's opinion that is not in line with mine.

Life is too short to get out of shape and offended about something unless it directly affects and impacts my life. My delete button works great.

I appreciate this wealth of knowledge in this group and the ability to let it all hang out in a safe environment.

In His Service,

CALI Jackie

Letter from Shell

As the founder of this group I do monitor it. I don't believe I have ever posted anything saying a person could not mention god (or whatever your higher power is) the last few posts seem to imply that people can not mention there higher power, whatever that may look like for you I have to say that I try very hard to keep this group drama free and a safe place for everyone. I gave up long ago trying to make everyone happy. It's just not going to happen. If I ever have a problem with someone's post please rest assured I would email you personally. Last week someone thought they could not post recopies. For goodness sake this is a yahoo group. Why would anyone mind if someone posted recipes?? There seems to be a lot of questions about what's ok and what's not. I encourage you all the re-read the home page. The rules are all there. We as a group came up with what we thought would keep this group running drama free.I don't really care what people post at all. I do however care that people respect each other and be kind to each other. I'm going to be really honest here and share a few feelings. I had no idea when I started this group how big it was going to become. How important it would become to people searching for help and answers and support. I started it because I could not find answers anywhere else. It was a selfish move to get help for myself. Since then this group has really taken on a life of its own and it's a wonderful thing. I take zero credit for the success of this group as it's not the person who starts it; it's the members who make it what it is.With that said I would like to say running this group has not been an easy thing to do. I get emails every day from people who love how I run it, who hate how I run it. People all seem to want to give me advice on a million things. We had a bit of turmoil awhile back and lost a lot of really good members. I tried my best to make changes so that would not happen again. I have had fights with people I don't even no and have hurt people and have been hurt. There have been times when I just want to give up and delete this group all together. Then I think about what this group is really doing and how much help it gives people and there's no way in the world I would do that. I now have a responsibility to run this group as best I can, and god knows im far from perfect but I do try my best.I read every post that is posted. When I hear people saying oh we can't post this or were not allowed to post about blah blah, I think were on earth did they get that information. I have my own feelings on what I want posted in here and what I don't. Sticking to those believes lost this group some very wise members. I have made enemies of people who don't even no me. I have acted in ways I would never of acted in person. I am not sure why I writing all this other then to let you all have a bit of insight to some of the things I have gone though. At this point I have learned to let people post what they want as long as there not hurting other members. What would help me a great deal is if you happen to read something you don't like, just move on or click delete. Try to understand in order for this group to remain drama free and a safe place for us all we need to be tolerant of others. We need to understand that this group is much bigger then any one person. We all find so much in this group and I'd like to ask for your help. I have open up the calendar and encourage anyone to post anything they like. I have been stuck on not posting about a few meetings that do really good work. Its wrong of me to not want them posted just because I have some personal issues. If you happen to be in any other groups that post about meetings or get-togethers or anything you think the members of this group might enjoy or be helped by I invite you to post them.If you have read this far Thank you. Please understand I love this group very much and truly try my best to run it as best I canShellFounder359/193/?

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Jakie,Gordy and patty,

Thank you all for your kind words and for reading my post and

responding to it. I came home to a very sad message that one of our

members wants to leave because she feels she can't post what she

wants .I have asked her to re-think her decision and to stay. Like I

said in my letter if anyone post something that I have an issue with

believe me i will send you a personal email to talk about it. I have

not felt the need to email any of my members about there posts in

awhile but i have done it. I hope this member stays and feels she

can't post what she like.

again thanks

Shell

> Shell,

> I'm a long time lurker and can attest to all you've written.

(your passion for this group and desire to keep it drama free. Good

choice of words - and fits the nail on the head!)

> I go through periods when I have posted, but I feel like I

learn more from so many, I'd rather keep my mouth shut and listen to

the elders of this tribe.

>

> I feel sometimes people get their panties in a twist over

something. For me, there are so much bigger issues in the world -

and in my world ... if something got my panties in a bunch and I

felt offended and pushed out of joint beyond repair, I would simply

leave the group or email that one person privately to try to iron it

out. Too many other things in life to give my time and emotions to

than to worry about someone else's opinion that is not in line with

mine.

>

> Life is too short to get out of shape and offended about

something unless it directly affects and impacts my life. My delete

button works great.

>

> I appreciate this wealth of knowledge in this group and the

ability to let it all hang out in a safe environment.

>

> In His Service,

> CALI Jackie

>

> Letter from Shell

>

>

>

> As the founder of this group I do monitor it. I don't believe I

have

> ever posted anything saying a person could not mention god (or

> whatever your higher power is) the last few posts seem to imply

that

> people can not mention there higher power, whatever that may look

> like for you

>

> I have to say that I try very hard to keep this group drama free

and

> a safe place for everyone. I gave up long ago trying to make

> everyone happy. It's just not going to happen. If I ever have a

> problem with someone's post please rest assured I would email you

> personally.

>

> Last week someone thought they could not post recopies. For

goodness

> sake this is a yahoo group. Why would anyone mind if someone

posted

> recipes??

>

>

> There seems to be a lot of questions about what's ok and what's

not.

> I encourage you all the re-read the home page. The rules are all

> there. We as a group came up with what we thought would keep this

> group running drama free.

>

> I don't really care what people post at all. I do however care

that

> people respect each other and be kind to each other.

>

> I'm going to be really honest here and share a few feelings. I had

> no idea when I started this group how big it was going to become.

> How important it would become to people searching for help and

> answers and support.

>

> I started it because I could not find answers anywhere else. It

> was a selfish move to get help for myself. Since then this group

has

> really taken on a life of its own and it's a wonderful thing. I

take

> zero credit for the success of this group as it's not the person

> who starts it; it's the members who make it what it is.

>

> With that said I would like to say running this group has not been

> an easy thing to do. I get emails every day from people who love

how

> I run it, who hate how I run it. People all seem to want to give

me

> advice on a million things. We had a bit of turmoil awhile back

and

> lost a lot of really good members. I tried my best to make changes

> so that would not happen again. I have had fights with people I

> don't even no and have hurt people and have been hurt. There have

> been times when I just want to give up and delete this group all

> together. Then I think about what this group is really doing and

how

> much help it gives people and there's no way in the world I would

do

> that. I now have a responsibility to run this group as best I can,

> and god knows im far from perfect but I do try my best.

>

> I read every post that is posted. When I hear people saying oh we

> can't post this or were not allowed to post about blah blah, I

think

> were on earth did they get that information.

>

> I have my own feelings on what I want posted in here and what I

> don't. Sticking to those believes lost this group some very wise

> members. I have made enemies of people who don't even no me. I

have

> acted in ways I would never of acted in person.

>

> I am not sure why I writing all this other then to let you all

have

> a bit of insight to some of the things I have gone though. At

this

> point I have learned to let people post what they want as long as

> there not hurting other members.

>

> What would help me a great deal is if you happen to read something

> you don't like, just move on or click delete. Try to understand in

> order for this group to remain drama free and a safe place for us

> all we need to be tolerant of others. We need to understand that

> this group is much bigger then any one person. We all find so much

> in this group and I'd like to ask for your help.

>

> I have open up the calendar and encourage anyone to post anything

> they like. I have been stuck on not posting about a few meetings

> that do really good work. Its wrong of me to not want them posted

> just because I have some personal issues. If you happen to be in

any

> other groups that post about meetings or get-togethers or

anything

> you think the members of this group might enjoy or be helped by

I

> invite you to post them.

>

> If you have read this far Thank you. Please understand I love this

> group very much and truly try my best to run it as best I can

>

> Shell

> Founder

> 359/193/?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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IMHO--if people object to specific posts, they can just skip them.

However, it might be helpful if we post recipes, we should put the

word " recipe " in the subject line.

I've seen some posts that had a potential to bother others, that the

person posting wisely put a disclaimer in the subject line. This is

a good and wise practice.

I know I don't post often enough, but I have a busy life, and this

is one of 4 boards that I try to follow. I think I get the most

inspiration and support from this board than the other 3 groups that

I follow.

Thank you, to all of you, especially you, Shell. Bless you!

BTW--I just started a web log about my WLS journey tonight. You can

view it at http://www.sandiantoytrain.blogspot.com/.

--Sandi H. (Citrus Heights)

Surgery by Dr. Leo - 6/03/04

(Pacific Bariatrics in San Diego)

weighed 315 at orientation (May '03) -- BMI 60

252 at surgery --BMI 46.1

last weighed at 195.0 (11/06/04) --BMI 36.8

(I've lost a total of 120 pounds!!!! 57 pounds since surgery.)

Hopefully someday I'll weigh below 130 and be in a " normal " BMI

range.

sandiantoytrain @ yahoo . com

>

> Jakie,Gordy and patty,

> Thank you all for your kind words and for reading my post and

> responding to it. I came home to a very sad message that one of

our members wants to leave because she feels she can't post what she

> wants .I have asked her to re-think her decision and to stay. Like

I said in my letter if anyone post something that I have an issue

with believe me i will send you a personal email to talk about it. I

have not felt the need to email any of my members about there posts

in awhile but i have done it. I hope this member stays and feels she

> can't post what she like.

>

> again thanks

> Shell

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Well said, Jackie!

Shell, just wanted to also express my

thanks to you – I think you do a fine job moderating this group. As you

and Jackie said, we are a numerous group and we all have our own opinions –

some shared, others not so much. I’m all about

letting everyone say their thing in whatever way they need to. Thanks again.

- Lesa -

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Letter from Shell

Shell,

I'm a long time lurker and can

attest to all you've written. (your passion for this group and desire to

keep it drama free. Good choice of words - and fits the nail on the

head!)

I go through periods when I have

posted, but I feel like I learn more from so many, I'd rather keep my mouth

shut and listen to the elders of this tribe.

I feel sometimes people get

their panties in a twist over something. For me, there are so much bigger

issues in the world - and in my world ... if something got my panties in a

bunch and I felt offended and pushed out of joint beyond repair, I would simply

leave the group or email that one person privately to try to iron it

out. Too many other things in life to give my time and emotions to than

to worry about someone else's opinion that is not in line with mine.

Life is too short to get out of

shape and offended about something unless it directly affects and impacts my

life. My delete button works great.

I appreciate this wealth of

knowledge in this group and the ability to let it all hang out in a safe

environment.

In His Service,

CALI

Jackie

Letter from Shell

As the founder of this group I do monitor it. I

don't believe I have

ever posted anything saying a person could not

mention god (or

whatever your higher power is) the last few posts

seem to imply that

people can not mention there higher power,

whatever that may look

like for you

I have to say that I try very hard to keep this

group drama free and

a safe place for everyone. I gave up long

ago trying to make

everyone happy. It's just not going to happen. If

I ever have a

problem with someone's post please rest assured I

would email you

personally.

Last week someone thought they could not post

recopies. For goodness

sake this is a yahoo group. Why would anyone mind

if someone posted

recipes??

There seems to be a lot of questions about what's

ok and what's not.

I encourage you all the re-read the home page. The

rules are all

there. We as a group came up with what we thought

would keep this

group running drama free.

I don't really care what people post at all. I do

however care that

people respect each other and be kind to each

other.

I'm going to be really honest here and share a few

feelings. I had

no idea when I started this group how big it was

going to become.

How important it would become to people searching

for help and

answers and support.

I started it because I could not find

answers anywhere else. It

was a selfish move to get help for myself. Since

then this group has

really taken on a life of its own and it's a

wonderful thing. I take

zero credit for the success of this group as it's

not the person

who starts it; it's the members who make it what

it is.

With that said I would like to say running this

group has not been

an easy thing to do. I get emails every day from

people who love how

I run it, who hate how I run it. People all seem

to want to give me

advice on a million things. We had a bit of

turmoil awhile back and

lost a lot of really good members. I tried my best

to make changes

so that would not happen again. I have had

fights with people I

don't even no and have hurt people and have been

hurt. There have

been times when I just want to give up and delete

this group all

together. Then I think about what this group is

really doing and how

much help it gives people and there's no way in

the world I would do

that. I now have a responsibility to run this

group as best I can,

and god knows im far from perfect but I do try my

best.

I read every post that is posted. When I hear

people saying oh we

can't post this or were not allowed to post about

blah blah, I think

were on earth did they get that information.

I have my own feelings on what I want posted in

here and what I

don't. Sticking to those believes lost this group

some very wise

members. I have made enemies of people who

don't even no me. I have

acted in ways I would never of acted in

person.

I am not sure why I writing all this other then to

let you all have

a bit of insight to some of the things I

have gone though. At this

point I have learned to let people post what they

want as long as

there not hurting other members.

What would help me a great deal is if you happen

to read something

you don't like, just move on or click delete. Try

to understand in

order for this group to remain drama free and a

safe place for us

all we need to be tolerant of others. We need to

understand that

this group is much bigger then any one person. We

all find so much

in this group and I'd like to ask for your help.

I have open up the calendar and encourage anyone

to post anything

they like. I have been stuck on not posting about

a few meetings

that do really good work. Its wrong of me to not

want them posted

just because I have some personal issues. If you

happen to be in any

other groups that post about meetings or

get-togethers or anything

you think the members of this group might

enjoy or be helped by I

invite you to post them.

If you have read this far Thank you. Please

understand I love this

group very much and truly try my best to run it as

best I can

Shell

Founder

359/193/?

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Shell, I can tell from your words in this

post and your letter that you are a very deeply caring person and you take a

lot of personal responsibility for this group. Please remember to give yourself

a break and try to let some of it roll or you’ll drive yourself nuts. The

members of this group will come and go based on their desires/baggage/motives/needs,

etc. It just feels like you’re internalizing this and it’s eating

at you. Let it go…take care.

- Lesa -

Re: Letter from Shell

Jakie,Gordy and patty,

Thank you all for your kind words and for reading

my post and

responding to it. I came home to a very sad

message that one of our

members wants to leave because she feels she can't

post what she

wants .I have asked her to re-think her decision

and to stay. Like I

said in my letter if anyone post something that I

have an issue with

believe me i will send you a personal email to

talk about it. I have

not felt the need to email any of my members about

there posts in

awhile but i have done it. I hope this member

stays and feels she

can't post what she like.

again thanks

Shell

> Shell,

> I'm a long time

lurker and can attest to all you've written.

(your passion for this group and desire to keep it

drama free. Good

choice of words - and fits the nail on the head!)

> I go through periods

when I have posted, but I feel like I

learn more from so many, I'd rather keep my mouth

shut and listen to

the elders of this tribe.

>

> I feel sometimes

people get their panties in a twist over

something. For me, there are so much bigger

issues in the world -

and in my world ... if something got my panties in

a bunch and I

felt offended and pushed out of joint beyond

repair, I would simply

leave the group or email that one person privately

to try to iron it

out. Too many other things in life to give

my time and emotions to

than to worry about someone else's opinion that is

not in line with

mine.

>

> Life is too short to

get out of shape and offended about

something unless it directly affects and impacts

my life. My delete

button works great.

>

> I appreciate this wealth of

knowledge in this group and the

ability to let it all hang out in a safe

environment.

>

> In His Service,

>

CALI Jackie

>

>

Letter from Shell

>

>

>

> As the founder of this group I do monitor it.

I don't believe I

have

> ever posted anything saying a person could

not mention god (or

> whatever your higher power is) the last few

posts seem to imply

that

> people can not mention there higher power,

whatever that may look

> like for you

>

> I have to say that I try very hard to keep

this group drama free

and

> a safe place for everyone. I gave up

long ago trying to make

> everyone happy. It's just not going to

happen. If I ever have a

> problem with someone's post please rest

assured I would email you

> personally.

>

> Last week someone thought they could not post

recopies. For

goodness

> sake this is a yahoo group. Why would anyone

mind if someone

posted

> recipes??

>

>

> There seems to be a lot of questions about

what's ok and what's

not.

> I encourage you all the re-read the home

page. The rules are all

> there. We as a group came up with what we

thought would keep this

> group running drama free.

>

> I don't really care what people post at all.

I do however care

that

> people respect each other and be kind to each

other.

>

> I'm going to be really honest here and share

a few feelings. I had

> no idea when I started this group how big it

was going to become.

> How important it would become to people

searching for help and

> answers and support.

>

> I started it because I could not

find answers anywhere else. It

> was a selfish move to get help for myself.

Since then this group

has

> really taken on a life of its own and it's a

wonderful thing. I

take

> zero credit for the success of this group as

it's not the person

> who starts it; it's the members who make it

what it is.

>

> With that said I would like to say running

this group has not been

> an easy thing to do. I get emails every day

from people who love

how

> I run it, who hate how I run it. People all

seem to want to give

me

> advice on a million things. We had a

bit of turmoil awhile back

and

> lost a lot of really good members. I tried my

best to make changes

> so that would not happen again. I have

had fights with people I

> don't even no and have hurt people and have

been hurt. There have

> been times when I just want to give up and

delete this group all

> together. Then I think about what this group

is really doing and

how

> much help it gives people and there's no way

in the world I would

do

> that. I now have a responsibility to run this

group as best I can,

> and god knows im far from perfect but I do

try my best.

>

> I read every post that is posted. When I hear

people saying oh we

> can't post this or were not allowed to post

about blah blah, I

think

> were on earth did they get that information.

>

> I have my own feelings on what I want posted

in here and what I

> don't. Sticking to those believes lost this

group some very wise

> members. I have made enemies of people

who don't even no me. I

have

> acted in ways I would never of acted in

person.

>

> I am not sure why I writing all this other

then to let you all

have

> a bit of insight to some of the things

I have gone though. At

this

> point I have learned to let people post what

they want as long as

> there not hurting other members.

>

> What would help me a great deal is if you

happen to read something

> you don't like, just move on or click delete.

Try to understand in

> order for this group to remain drama free and

a safe place for us

> all we need to be tolerant of others. We need

to understand that

> this group is much bigger then any one

person. We all find so much

> in this group and I'd like to ask for your

help.

>

> I have open up the calendar and encourage

anyone to post anything

> they like. I have been stuck on not posting

about a few meetings

> that do really good work. Its wrong of me to

not want them posted

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Shell - Thank you and "Amen". I agree with you and thank you for the wonderful support for all! - Ellen

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As the founder of this group I do monitor it. I don't believe I have ever posted anything saying a person could not mention god (or whatever your higher power is) the last few posts seem to imply that people can not mention there higher power, whatever that may look like for you I have to say that I try very hard to keep this group drama free and a safe place for everyone. I gave up long ago trying to make everyone happy. It's just not going to happen. If I ever have a problem with someone's post please rest assured I would email you personally. Last week someone thought they could not post recopies. For goodness sake this is a yahoo group. Why would anyone mind if someone posted recipes?? There seems to be a lot of questions about what's ok and what's not. I encourage you all the re-read the home page. The rules are all there. We as a group came up with what we thought would keep this group running drama free.I don't really care what people post at all. I do however care that people respect each other and be kind to each other. I'm going to be really honest here and share a few feelings. I had no idea when I started this group how big it was going to become. How important it would become to people searching for help and answers and support. I started it because I could not find answers anywhere else. It was a selfish move to get help for myself. Since then this group has really taken on a life of its own and it's a wonderful thing. I take zero credit for the the success of this group as it's not the person who starts it; it's the members who make it what it is.With that said I would like to say running this group has not been an easy thing to do. I get emails every day from people who love how I run it, who hate how I run it. People all seem to want to give me advice on a million things. We had a bit of turmoil awhile back and lost a lot of really good members. I tried my best to make changes so that would not happen again. I have had fights with people I don't even no and have hurt people and have been hurt. There have been times when I just want to give up and delete this group all together. Then I think about what this group is really doing and how much help it gives people and there's no way in the world I would do that. I now have a responsibility to run this group as best I can, and god knows im far from perfect but I do try my best.I read every post that is posted. When I hear people saying oh we can't post this or were not allowed to post about blah blah, I think were on earth did they get that information. I have my own feelings on what I want posted in here and what I don't. Sticking to those believes lost this group some very wise members. I have made enemies of people who don't even no me. I have acted in ways I would never of acted in person. I am not sure why I writing all this other then to let you all have a bit of insight to some of the things I have gone though. At this point I have learned to let people post what they want as long as there not hurting other members. What would help me a great deal is if you happen to read something you don't like, just move on or click delete. Try to understand in order for this group to remain drama free and a safe place for us all we need to be tolerant of others. We need to understand that this group is much bigger then any one person. We all find so much in this group and I'd like to ask for your help. I have open up the calendar and encourage anyone to post anything they like. I have been stuck on not posting about a few meetings that do really good work. Its wrong of me to not want them posted just because I have some personal issues. If you happen to be in any other groups that post about meetings or get-togethers or anything you think the members of this group might enjoy or be helped by I invite you to post them.If you have read this far Thank you. Please understand I love this group very much and truly try my best to run it as best I canShellFounder359/193/?

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Shell - Thank you and "Amen". I agree with you and thank you for the wonderful support for all! - Ellen

Letter from Shell

As the founder of this group I do monitor it. I don't believe I have ever posted anything saying a person could not mention god (or whatever your higher power is) the last few posts seem to imply that people can not mention there higher power, whatever that may look like for you I have to say that I try very hard to keep this group drama free and a safe place for everyone. I gave up long ago trying to make everyone happy. It's just not going to happen. If I ever have a problem with someone's post please rest assured I would email you personally. Last week someone thought they could not post recopies. For goodness sake this is a yahoo group. Why would anyone mind if someone posted recipes?? There seems to be a lot of questions about what's ok and what's not. I encourage you all the re-read the home page. The rules are all there. We as a group came up with what we thought would keep this group running drama free.I don't really care what people post at all. I do however care that people respect each other and be kind to each other. I'm going to be really honest here and share a few feelings. I had no idea when I started this group how big it was going to become. How important it would become to people searching for help and answers and support. I started it because I could not find answers anywhere else. It was a selfish move to get help for myself. Since then this group has really taken on a life of its own and it's a wonderful thing. I take zero credit for the the success of this group as it's not the person who starts it; it's the members who make it what it is.With that said I would like to say running this group has not been an easy thing to do. I get emails every day from people who love how I run it, who hate how I run it. People all seem to want to give me advice on a million things. We had a bit of turmoil awhile back and lost a lot of really good members. I tried my best to make changes so that would not happen again. I have had fights with people I don't even no and have hurt people and have been hurt. There have been times when I just want to give up and delete this group all together. Then I think about what this group is really doing and how much help it gives people and there's no way in the world I would do that. I now have a responsibility to run this group as best I can, and god knows im far from perfect but I do try my best.I read every post that is posted. When I hear people saying oh we can't post this or were not allowed to post about blah blah, I think were on earth did they get that information. I have my own feelings on what I want posted in here and what I don't. Sticking to those believes lost this group some very wise members. I have made enemies of people who don't even no me. I have acted in ways I would never of acted in person. I am not sure why I writing all this other then to let you all have a bit of insight to some of the things I have gone though. At this point I have learned to let people post what they want as long as there not hurting other members. What would help me a great deal is if you happen to read something you don't like, just move on or click delete. Try to understand in order for this group to remain drama free and a safe place for us all we need to be tolerant of others. We need to understand that this group is much bigger then any one person. We all find so much in this group and I'd like to ask for your help. I have open up the calendar and encourage anyone to post anything they like. I have been stuck on not posting about a few meetings that do really good work. Its wrong of me to not want them posted just because I have some personal issues. If you happen to be in any other groups that post about meetings or get-togethers or anything you think the members of this group might enjoy or be helped by I invite you to post them.If you have read this far Thank you. Please understand I love this group very much and truly try my best to run it as best I canShellFounder359/193/?

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Kay,

Thank you so much! Your replie means alot to me!!

Your such a wonderful part of this group

Shell

> Hi Shell,

>

> I know that it is hard not to take any criticism to heart, but

reality

> is that we will not be able to please everybody all the time.

So . . .

> occasionally someone will feel the need to complain. But, please,

> always know that there are a lot of us here who find amazing

amounts of

> support and information here and that we greatly appreciate and

value

> the job that you do. As I have often said, this is my home on the

> internet. You created this haven and I will always be grateful to

you

> for that.

>

> All the best,

>

> Kay

> in San Leandro

> open RNY 12/1/03

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