Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Donna said: " I have even trained my children telling them that they should > never cry in > front of a neurosurgeon. I'm teaching them to try to be numb to the > words > when they hear about a needed surgery......docs don't deal with > tears well. " > replied: I have even noticed that some docs might not even notice if you start crying. I was in with one doctor that I have down here and his resident was in with us. He was busy explaining a CT scan and mentioned me dying if I didn't have the operation done soon. I looked toward my brother and we both started crying at the mention of me dying. Quietly, but crying all the same. So, the doctor actually had 2 people crying in the exam room and didn't even notice. Well mom did! When we got home she called the office. 2 days later the resident called back and she explained to him what happened. He apologized so profusely but the fact is, he didn't see it or even realize what he was saying! So, the moral of this long story is: Don't cut off your feelings from anyone. You have a right to express them. You also have4 a right to read your file. So, if you think your doctor isn't giving you all the information, get it no matter where you have to go to! ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 _______ , If this was your mom's take on sex, then how was her self esteem after she had you and your sister?? Was she real disappointed when she learned the stork wasn't real? I'm not degrading your mom. Don't worry. Just joking. ) courtney > Message: 19 > Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:58:17 US/Eastern > From: cinnyd@... > Subject: Re: Re[2]: having babies > > agree. that is my sisters approach with her kids. it mortifies my > mother who > was brought us " sex is bad/degrading/should be ashamed/and should > never ever > talk about such things " . > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Glad I didn't learn about sex from my Dad, when I was in my mid thirties I found out he was a pedophile. What a sick man, people like himm make sex bad and degrading. Mikey > , > If this was your mom's take on sex, then how was her self esteem > after she had you and your sister?? Was she real disappointed when she > learned the stork wasn't real? I'm not degrading your mom. Don't worry. > Just joking. ) > courtney > > > Message: 19 > > Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:58:17 US/Eastern > > From: cinnyd@... > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: having babies > > > > agree. that is my sisters approach with her kids. it mortifies my > > mother who > > was brought us " sex is bad/degrading/should be ashamed/and should > > never ever > > talk about such things " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Wow Mikey , having a father like that and having Nf2 is really a lot to have dealt with in your life. Sadly, I think pedophiles only enjoy sex when it is 'bad and degrading', because of something in their background, childhood. I can only imagine how hard it must be for you to reconcile/forgive this in your relationship with your father, being such a betrayal, and abuse of power, even just learning about it after the event. You're going to end up being really evolved after this stint. > Glad I didn't learn about sex from my Dad, when I was in my mid thirties I > found out he was a pedophile. What a sick man, people like himm make sex > bad and degrading. > Mikey > > >> , >> If this was your mom's take on sex, then how was her self esteem >> after she had you and your sister?? Was she real disappointed when she >> learned the stork wasn't real? I'm not degrading your mom. Don't worry. >> Just joking. ) >> courtney >>> >> Message: 19 >>> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:58:17 US/Eastern >>> From: cinnyd@... >>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: having babies >>> >>> agree. that is my sisters approach with her kids. it mortifies my >>> mother who >>> was brought us " sex is bad/degrading/should be ashamed/and should >>> never ever >>> talk about such things " . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 you have my sympathies mikey, how brave of you to even admit that here. you go dude :-) Mike wrote: > Glad I didn't learn about sex from my Dad, when I was in my mid thirties I > found out he was a pedophile. What a sick man, people like himm make sex > bad and degrading. > Mikey > > > , > > If this was your mom's take on sex, then how was her self esteem > > after she had you and your sister?? Was she real disappointed when she > > learned the stork wasn't real? I'm not degrading your mom. Don't worry. > > Just joking. ) > > courtney > > > > > Message: 19 > > > Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:58:17 US/Eastern > > > From: cinnyd@... > > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: having babies > > > > > > agree. that is my sisters approach with her kids. it mortifies my > > > mother who > > > was brought us " sex is bad/degrading/should be ashamed/and should > > > never ever > > > talk about such things " . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Who said I forgave him! Nothing ever happened to me and my brother. Re: Re[2]: having babies > >>> > >>> agree. that is my sisters approach with her kids. it mortifies my > >>> mother who > >>> was brought us " sex is bad/degrading/should be ashamed/and should > >>> never ever > >>> talk about such things " . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 >>>i didn't think you would have forgiven him. i was just >>>acknowledging that only after we forgive people , then do we find >>>peace, and how hard this would be in this circumstance....neither >>>did i think you or your brother were directly involved.... hence, >>> " even just learning about it after the event " . >>Still he has betrayed you, and what any child expects from their >>parent's behaviour, and how they conduct themselves in the world. >Who said I forgave him! Nothing ever happened to me and my brother. > > Re: Digest Number 2059 > > >> Wow Mikey , having a father like that and having Nf2 is really a lot to >have >> dealt with in your life. Sadly, I think pedophiles only enjoy sex when it >is >> 'bad and degrading', because of something in their background, childhood. >> >> I can only imagine how hard it must be for you to reconcile/forgive this >> in your relationship with your father, being such a betrayal, and abuse of > > power, even just learning about it after the event. You're going to end >up > > being really evolved after this stint. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 I found peace knowing he checked out and no one would be his victim again. He got sent away for 4 years and after he died I found his counseling files from prison, he believed the kids wanted him to do the things he did. It was never his fault. He came out still believing that. He was a master manipulator. Mikey Re: Digest Number 2059 > > > > > >> Wow Mikey , having a father like that and having Nf2 is really a lot to > >have > >> dealt with in your life. Sadly, I think pedophiles only enjoy sex when it > >is > >> 'bad and degrading', because of something in their background, childhood. > >> > >> I can only imagine how hard it must be for you to reconcile/forgive this > >> in your relationship with your father, being such a betrayal, and abuse of > > > power, even just learning about it after the event. You're going to end > >up > > > being really evolved after this stint. > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 >it is hard to understand why some people have so much brought upon >them in their lifetimes, and others seemingly, have a smooth ride. >dealng with Nf2 is enough, by anybody's standards. i am pleased you >found some peace in his passing, Mikey. > I found peace knowing he checked out and no one would be his victim again. >He got sent away for 4 years and after he died I found his counseling files >from prison, he believed the kids wanted him to do the things he did. It >was never his fault. He came out still believing that. He was a master >manipulator. >Mikey > > Re: Digest Number 2059 >> > >> > >> >> Wow Mikey , having a father like that and having Nf2 is really a lot >to >> >have >> >> dealt with in your life. Sadly, I think pedophiles only enjoy sex when >it >> >is >> >> 'bad and degrading', because of something in their background, >childhood. >> >> >> >> I can only imagine how hard it must be for you to reconcile/forgive >this >> >> in your relationship with your father, being such a betrayal, and >abuse of >> > > power, even just learning about it after the event. You're going to >end >> >up >> > > being really evolved after this stint. >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Mikey, I regretted reading the pain that your Dad caused you. He probably was a master manipulator (I've had so many in my family, too) but he also seemed mentally ill. I am just happy that it is over for you and you can move forward. I know when my mom died (she was manic depressive and other mentally ill issues), I felt freed. Be well. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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