Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Hi KT – I’m a big believer in journaling / writng feelings. Since a lot of people have only journaled to write down their food, many will tell you that they hate it and that it feels like “diet mentality” to them. The subject of journaling gets people really upset if they don’t want to do it, so I am only saying that I like it a lot. Everyone else will do what is right for them. I find it really helpful though, and I don’t write down anything about WHAT I ate, but rather how I was feeling. This goes along with the “anthropologist” method of observation found in the iE book. For more guidance I would recommend Geneen Roth’s books, particularly “Why Weight”, which has many exercises that have to do with where feelings and food come together. Geneen likes to suggest writing down food and how you felt when you ate it, but just skip that part if you don’t feel okay about it. There are many other ways to write down feelings. Best to you From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of K T Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:12 AM To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: writing feelings? Okay, I'm having a bit of a spiral the last couple days, like just looking for happiness in food (and actually finding a lot of it there, which is odd.) Usually when I go looking for happiness in food, I almost never enjoy the food. So I'm not very far into the IE book (lent it to a friend so she could buy a copy for herself...not the best plan and need to get a new one. lol) Anyway, is there some writing I could do to get in touch with what's going on or something. I'm not a huge fan of journaling, but if it will help me not eat my weight in food with in 3 days, I'm willing. ;-) I am already somewhat aware of some basic ideas of some things that are bothering me. Thanks in advance, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 When I get what I call the " Food Panickies " I know something is wrong. I've had the Food Panickies for MONTHS now - and yesterday was the first day in a LONG TIME that I really truly allowed myself to have the food that my body says it wants. I had slowly but surely fallen back into the weight loss trap, after 2 years of great success of intuitive eating, and as you can guess, that triggered months of binging. It is such a paradox, but if we do not truly give up ideas of weight loss, we will gain weight. Body acceptance NOW is so important. Am I going to spend my whole life waiting to be thin before I allow myself to be happy with myself? Even were I thin, would I even consider myself thin? If not, then I would still be in misery. I am not going to postpone happiness based on a pipe dream. Our culture is way too hung up on the dieting thing - and the diet industry is going to do everything it can to keep that money flowing to them! The profit factor is a huge driver in corporate America - it is part of our human nature to be greedy. (Notice that WW says it's " not a diet " ? - We know it when we see it: WW IS A DIET. Ever wonder why WW asks if you have an eating disorder? To limit its liability for being sued later because there is a direct correlation between WW's " non-diet DIET " and disordered eating. If you own up to having disordered eating - and who among us would - then WW policies do not allow you to join.) I am so at peace - as soon as I truly let myself have permission to eat what I really wanted, the binging stopped. I know that there will be challenges, but I am just soooooo going to enjoy today being at peace with food and with myself. XOXO, Judi > > Okay, > > I'm having a bit of a spiral the last couple days, like just looking for happiness in food (and actually finding a lot of it there, which is odd.) Usually when I go looking for happiness in food, I almost never enjoy the food. So I'm not very far into the IE book (lent it to a friend so she could buy a copy for herself...not the best plan and need to get a new one. lol) Anyway, is there some writing I could do to get in touch with what's going on or something. I'm not a huge fan of journaling, but if it will help me not eat my weight in food with in 3 days, I'm willing. ;-) I am already somewhat aware of some basic ideas of some things that are bothering me. > > Thanks in advance, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 You are so right - reactions to journaling is as varied as food choices. I am one who is not a big user of journaling and couldn't utilize Geenen Roth's suggestions as successfully as others do. But I have experienced positive feedback from the the times that I have used writing to dig deeper below surface appearances. Many times I find that reading here what others are experiencing can also be illuminating and spark internal understanding. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Hi KT - > > I'm a big believer in journaling / writng feelings. Since a lot of people > have only journaled to write down their food, many will tell you that they > hate it and that it feels like " diet mentality " to them. The subject of > journaling gets people really upset if they don't want to do it, so I am > only saying that I like it a lot. Everyone else will do what is right for > them. I find it really helpful though, and I don't write down anything > about WHAT I ate, but rather how I was feeling. This goes along with the > " anthropologist " method of observation found in the iE book. For more > guidance I would recommend Geneen Roth's books, particularly " Why Weight " , > which has many exercises that have to do with where feelings and food come > together. Geneen likes to suggest writing down food and how you felt when > you ate it, but just skip that part if you don't feel okay about it. There > are many other ways to write down feelings. > > Best to you > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Judi I very much agree with you - even thinking about weight loss sidetracks me away from the focus on my body and its needs that is what I really benefit from most. Yesterday I bought a good sized bag of chocolate peanuts which are what I used to legalize chocolate for myself. I just felt that I needed to have them available, even if I didn't want them really. I even ate about 10 of them 'just because' and found that Yes, I didn't feel any need to eat these or more either. They will stay right on my counter - available - but I suspect not tempting either. Now that is a REAL change from before for me. I am also finding movement easier and clothes more comfortable too. Little 'oh! I must have lost weight!' thoughts pop up, but I am now able to say - OK, that's nice instead of jump on the scale to 'know'. The # really isn't important that much any more. BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > It is such a paradox, but if we do not truly give up ideas of weight loss, we will gain weight. Body acceptance NOW is so important. Am I going to spend my whole life waiting to be thin before I allow myself to be happy with myself? Even were I thin, would I even consider myself thin? If not, then I would still be in misery. I am not going to postpone happiness based on a pipe dream. > > I am so at peace - as soon as I truly let myself have permission to eat what I really wanted, the binging stopped. I know that there will be challenges, but I am just soooooo going to enjoy today being at peace with food and with myself. > > XOXO, Judi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I will try it! KT (Warrior) > > Hi KT - > > I'm a big believer in journaling / writng feelings. Since a lot of people > have only journaled to write down their food, many will tell you that they > hate it and that it feels like " diet mentality " to them. The subject of > journaling gets people really upset if they don't want to do it, so I am > only saying that I like it a lot. Everyone else will do what is right for > them. I find it really helpful though, and I don't write down anything > about WHAT I ate, but rather how I was feeling. This goes along with the > " anthropologist " method of observation found in the iE book. For more > guidance I would recommend Geneen Roth's books, particularly " Why Weight " , > which has many exercises that have to do with where feelings and food come > together. Geneen likes to suggest writing down food and how you felt when > you ate it, but just skip that part if you don't feel okay about it. There > are many other ways to write down feelings. > > Best to you > > > > > > From: IntuitiveEating_Support > [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of K T > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:12 AM > To: IntuitiveEating_Support > Subject: writing feelings? > > > > > > Okay, > > I'm having a bit of a spiral the last couple days, like just looking for > happiness in food (and actually finding a lot of it there, which is odd.) > Usually when I go looking for happiness in food, I almost never enjoy the > food. So I'm not very far into the IE book (lent it to a friend so she could > buy a copy for herself...not the best plan and need to get a new one. lol) > Anyway, is there some writing I could do to get in touch with what's going > on or something. I'm not a huge fan of journaling, but if it will help me > not eat my weight in food with in 3 days, I'm willing. ;-) I am already > somewhat aware of some basic ideas of some things that are bothering me. > > Thanks in advance, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Amen sisters! We gotta live our lives right now, not five pounds from now. I've gotta look in the mirror and love what I see right now. I find that when I'm feeling panicky about food, it's always that I'm mentally being down on my weight, or I'm focusing on being thinner in the future, or I'm labeling food bad or good, or I'm jealous of someone who's lost weight, or I'm feeling insecure about myself. I'm slipping into the lie that I can control my weight be cotrolling my food. I can't. If I give in, if I commit to allowing myself to eat whatever Iwant, if I give myself permission to overeat, then my panick goes away fairly quickly. And the emotions I attributed my panick to are still there. I just no longer connect food to them. It was just my excuse all along for not giving myself permission to eat freely. I think our subconcious will use any excuse to eat when we're not feeling free toward food. I have to give myself complete permission to overeat before my desire to overeat goes away. I can't decide if the irony of that is quite cruel or quite kind. I guess peace leads to peace. I guess that's really quite logical. It's so at odds with what we've all been told about food and weight our entire lives that it's hard to make sense of. It's hard to fully accept. But it makes perfect sense. Sara > > > > It is such a paradox, but if we do not truly give up ideas of weight loss, we will gain weight. Body acceptance NOW is so important. Am I going to spend my whole life waiting to be thin before I allow myself to be happy with myself? Even were I thin, would I even consider myself thin? If not, then I would still be in misery. I am not going to postpone happiness based on a pipe dream. > > > > I am so at peace - as soon as I truly let myself have permission to eat what I really wanted, the binging stopped. I know that there will be challenges, but I am just soooooo going to enjoy today being at peace with food and with myself.> > > > XOXO, Judi> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 " I have to give myself complete permission to overeat before my desire to overeat goes away. " Love that! KT > > > > > > It is such a paradox, but if we do not truly give up ideas of weight > loss, we will gain weight. Body acceptance NOW is so important. Am I > going to spend my whole life waiting to be thin before I allow myself to > be happy with myself? Even were I thin, would I even consider myself > thin? If not, then I would still be in misery. I am not going to > postpone happiness based on a pipe dream. > > > > > > I am so at peace - as soon as I truly let myself have permission to > eat what I really wanted, the binging stopped. I know that there will be > challenges, but I am just soooooo going to enjoy today being at peace > with food and with myself. > > > > > > XOXO, Judi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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