Hi everyone

[Guest guest]

Elaine, I'm glad that your daughter is home safe and I'm so proud of you for

standing your ground. My granddaughter is only 3yrs old but I know that my

daughter will have the same problems for years to come with her ex. It began

from day one. You have the will and strength to take charge and I admire

you for that.

I'm sorry that the metho is making you yucky. It did me too in the

beginning. Seems to be better now, only achey and fatigued. My thoughts are

with you and your family. Hope all works out well for you.

Love

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathleen,

So far so good this week on the metho. Only a little nausea last night, but

today will tell. Last week the nausea only lasted a day or so. I don't

normally have any stomach problems so it was very weird for me. I don't fear

throwing up because I've only done that about six times in my life.

Sometimes I've really wanted to but it just doesn't happen. If it continues

I'll give him a call. I'm more tired than anything else. Last night when I

had the nausea I just went to sleep and didn't feel it. Last week I was at

work and couldn't take a nap. I've been very fortunate that if I am in pain

or feeling ill I can fall asleep very easily. Probably the only time I can!

Thanks

Elaine

RE: Hi everyone

Elaine, you shouldn't have to wait until " next time " to ask for the

prescription. This is something he can do over the phone. It will really

make your days better to not be sick to your stomach. The compazine makes

you a little sleepy, not much though and I accomplished a lot more being

able to do it without the fear of throwing up! Call your Dr's office!

Kathleen

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ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR PHYSICIAN AND

ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND TREATMENT MAYBE

DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

[Guest guest]

Thanks Liz,

Sorry it took so long to reply. It's been a wierd week and haven't been on

th computer much. Thanks again,

Elaine

Re: Hi everyone

>

>

> Elaine, good to have you back again. Hope you had a

> nice trip. Are you

> feeling any better. Let us know.

>

> Love

>

>

>

>

> DISCLAIMER!!

> WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY

> INFORMATION THAT IS RECEIVED

> HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH

> YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE TRYING

> ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE

> FOR YOUR PHYSICIAN AND

> ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT

> AND TREATMENT MAYBE

> DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Angie,

Soooo good to hear from you. Glad to hear that you are going to me the

wonderful Heidi and Dom! I'll say some prayers for your Mom. She must be

so worried. Glad to hear the your husband and son are doing well ! You

take care of yourself! We miss you !

B.

At 04:09 AM 8/30/2000 EDT, you wrote:

>

>

>Hi Everyone!!!!

>Gee I have missed you ll so much.

>There is a lot going on with me that you oldies know about ab d I won't bore

>the newcomers with all that crap.

>Welcome all newcomers sorry I didn't welcome you all sooner but I DO intend

>to get to know you better.

>Happy birthday to all those that I have missed. I am sorry for missing it

and

>have no just excuse please accept my apologies.

>I have noticed we are growing by leaps and bounds here, does that mean we

are

>not so rare anymore? or are doctors becoming smarter (HA!)

>We are anxiously awaiting the arrival of Heidi and Dom. to our humble home

>next week, it is finally getting closer hurray!!!

>My Mom can use a few prayers she has a growth on her vocal cords and it is

>being removed next Friday while Heidi is here and that will take a day out

of

>our visit, for that I feel terrible but we will find a way to make it up I

am

>sure. Please keep a good thought for her, I would appreciate it.

>Jerry and are both doing fine.

>I finally was able to get my machine in a portable mode, so now I can get

the

>hell out of the house a little. It will be all hooked up by this weekend.

>just wanted to pop in and say Hi and let you all know I am alive.

>be back as soon as I can.

>welcome again all the new people, you'll love it here everyone is just

>terrific and caring

>love, hugs and hope

>Angie

>

>DISCLAIMER!!

>WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS

RECEIVED HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR

BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR

PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND

TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

>

Burdick

Circulation/ILL Manager

Yale University Divinity Library email: susan.burdick@...

409 Prospect Street ph:

New Haven, CT 06511 fax:

USA

[Guest guest]

Angie,

Soooo good to hear from you. Glad to hear that you are going to me the

wonderful Heidi and Dom! I'll say some prayers for your Mom. She must be

so worried. Glad to hear the your husband and son are doing well ! You

take care of yourself! We miss you !

B.

At 04:09 AM 8/30/2000 EDT, you wrote:

>

>

>Hi Everyone!!!!

>Gee I have missed you ll so much.

>There is a lot going on with me that you oldies know about ab d I won't bore

>the newcomers with all that crap.

>Welcome all newcomers sorry I didn't welcome you all sooner but I DO intend

>to get to know you better.

>Happy birthday to all those that I have missed. I am sorry for missing it

and

>have no just excuse please accept my apologies.

>I have noticed we are growing by leaps and bounds here, does that mean we

are

>not so rare anymore? or are doctors becoming smarter (HA!)

>We are anxiously awaiting the arrival of Heidi and Dom. to our humble home

>next week, it is finally getting closer hurray!!!

>My Mom can use a few prayers she has a growth on her vocal cords and it is

>being removed next Friday while Heidi is here and that will take a day out

of

>our visit, for that I feel terrible but we will find a way to make it up I

am

>sure. Please keep a good thought for her, I would appreciate it.

>Jerry and are both doing fine.

>I finally was able to get my machine in a portable mode, so now I can get

the

>hell out of the house a little. It will be all hooked up by this weekend.

>just wanted to pop in and say Hi and let you all know I am alive.

>be back as soon as I can.

>welcome again all the new people, you'll love it here everyone is just

>terrific and caring

>love, hugs and hope

>Angie

>

>DISCLAIMER!!

>WE ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, THEREFORE ANY INFORMATION THAT IS

RECEIVED HERE IS FROM EXPERIENCE ONLY. PLEASE CONSULT WITH YOUR DOCTOR

BEFORE TRYING ANYTHING THAT IS SUGGESTED. WE ARE NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR YOUR

PHYSICIAN AND ARE NOT TRYING TO BE. REMEMBER EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND

TREATMENT MAYBE DIFFERENT FOR MANY OF US. THANK YOU

>

Burdick

Circulation/ILL Manager

Yale University Divinity Library email: susan.burdick@...

409 Prospect Street ph:

New Haven, CT 06511 fax:

USA

[Guest guest]

Kim,

yes, stress can make it much worse. You need to find some way of

alleviating the stress.

Getting rid of your husband was a step in the right direction. I don't

know about anxiety helping,

but it would be something you could bring up with your doctor. Also ask

for any other suggestions on

how to alleviate stress or at least dealing with it in a way so it

doesn't bother you physically.

Kimber

--

Kimber

hominid2@...

California State Chapter Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

[Guest guest]

welcome lynn, keep posting.

lori h.

> Hi,

> My name is Lynn I'm from Wisconsin and new to the group.

> Tomorrow 1-23 I have my psychiatric evaluation. My dietitian is

also

> sending a letter for the insurance company.

> Anyone from wisconsin??

>

> Thanks Lynn

[Guest guest]

Hello Darlene,

here, at the Library. I just came over here to check my e-mail and being it's late in the day I don't have much time as it is. Update on myself. The ringing in my ears is bad now as I'am typing this. I've have a history of what is called "swimmers' ears" where water gets cugged up or doesn't all drain out. If I ever had ear plugs that are specially for my ears it would help out alot. If I was getting medical care other than the V.A.. I would have been seen by the "ears, nose, and throat" doctor that is a specialist that covers all this on the head. I requested many times to be seen by a specialist about my ears to my primary care doctor and still nothing has been done about the ears. This ringing very well be cause by sarcoid in the inner ears or whatever for all I know too.

How can a person know if sarcoid developement is active or not? These lesions in my legs maybe from forming sometime within the previous 2 years. Since they are there causing my musclar pain that is going on now. I have a potenially serious problem with my car (I know this is not sarcoid stuff) that very maybe a fire hazard that mention in a previous e-mail. I'll discuss this at another time.

Bye for today,

Darlene wrote:

Hi everyone,

Just checking in and wanting to wish you all a good evening. I hope you are having

a good weekend and free from pain and sickness................I would wish that for all of you.

Please take care and know that I care about you and worry about each and every one of

you. Please check in and let us know how you are when you can..........

Sending lots of hugs and good thoughts,

Darlene

NS Co-Owner/Moderator

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[Guest guest]

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice

I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently

going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs

and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I

am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me

out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to

him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him

the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he

ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it

and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a

couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I

was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on weightwatchers

had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight

just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out

it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some

ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

[Guest guest]

Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady, are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches, so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm "under the gun" so to speak. Good luck!armymom1961 wrote:

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on

weightwatchers had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

[Guest guest]

Robynn thanks for the response. I haven't tried the Atkins thing my cardiologist told me I couldn't do that diet. I am eatting pretty good and definitely drinking the water it goes right thru me. At slender lady we do not lift weights it is circuit training and cardio. You are probably right I am transforming to muscle but I want the weight off.. I don't want to get too discouraged and change my mind about the surg because I am having such a difficult time getting it off. I am currently at 231.5 and need to be at 216. I keep trying to keep myself motivitated. Where are you going to have your surg at? Bye the way my name is Rose and I live in El Dorado Hills by Sacramento area. Thanks for the advice and caring..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady, are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches, so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm "under the gun" so to speak. Good luck!armymom1961 wrote:

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on

weightwatchers had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I think I'm having it at Richmond. I'm similar in weight to you...a little more. I'm 248, and I imagine I'll need to get to 223 or so. I'm 5'6".

I'm surprised that your cardiologist advised against Adkins..lower carb diets tend to help the heart. Of course, lots of people do the "bacon bacon bacon, big fat steaks and lotsa cheese" over and over again...which can't be good for your heart.

I have the Thurman 6 week bodymakeover diet. It's a lower carb diet, but it sticks to lean meats, fish and poultry. Some eggs (but you can use egg whites if you are trying to avoid cholesterol.) I'll dig it out and give you the "regime" if you'd like. In many ways, it mirrors the diet we'll have post-surgery, in that you eat lean meats, veggies, and some fruits. It's worked pretty well in the past for me.

I have to admit that I haven't really begun losing weight. I started walking again (trying to get 10,000 steps a day on my pedometer), and I'm getting more "mindful" of what I'm eating. But, I haven't lost any weight. I'm holding out until I get weighed in, because I know for me that I tend to hit plateaus after I've lost a certain amount...so I want to get weighed in at the weight I am now, and then hit my plateau AFTER I hit the 10%!!

I haven't lost a thing yet. I am a little nervous that once I do get weighed in, I'll lose the weight pretty quickly, but we'll see.

Take care...

RobynnRose wrote:

Robynn thanks for the response. I haven't tried the Atkins thing my cardiologist told me I couldn't do that diet. I am eatting pretty good and definitely drinking the water it goes right thru me. At slender lady we do not lift weights it is circuit training and cardio. You are probably right I am transforming to muscle but I want the weight off.. I don't want to get too discouraged and change my mind about the surg because I am having such a difficult time getting it off. I am currently at 231.5 and need to be at 216. I keep trying to keep myself motivitated. Where are you going to have your surg at? Bye the way my name is Rose and I live in El Dorado Hills by Sacramento area. Thanks for the advice and caring..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady, are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches, so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm "under the gun" so to speak. Good luck!armymom1961 wrote:

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on

weightwatchers had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Well I'd love to see the diet if you can find it.. Don't put yourself out to find it. At the orientation last sat they said that they would take your highest weight you have documented at Kaiser and the weight thatyou were when you got the referral and also the weigh in weight so you might want to just lose a little before the appt if your able too. It makes the surg much easier so they say. Glad to see you use the pedometer it does help to see how many steps you put in daily so you can increase daily or weekly. Thanks for writing back..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

I think I'm having it at Richmond. I'm similar in weight to you...a little more. I'm 248, and I imagine I'll need to get to 223 or so. I'm 5'6".

I'm surprised that your cardiologist advised against Adkins..lower carb diets tend to help the heart. Of course, lots of people do the "bacon bacon bacon, big fat steaks and lotsa cheese" over and over again...which can't be good for your heart.

I have the Thurman 6 week bodymakeover diet. It's a lower carb diet, but it sticks to lean meats, fish and poultry. Some eggs (but you can use egg whites if you are trying to avoid cholesterol.) I'll dig it out and give you the "regime" if you'd like. In many ways, it mirrors the diet we'll have post-surgery, in that you eat lean meats, veggies, and some fruits. It's worked pretty well in the past for me.

I have to admit that I haven't really begun losing weight. I started walking again (trying to get 10,000 steps a day on my pedometer), and I'm getting more "mindful" of what I'm eating. But, I haven't lost any weight. I'm holding out until I get weighed in, because I know for me that I tend to hit plateaus after I've lost a certain amount...so I want to get weighed in at the weight I am now, and then hit my plateau AFTER I hit the 10%!!

I haven't lost a thing yet. I am a little nervous that once I do get weighed in, I'll lose the weight pretty quickly, but we'll see.

Take care...

RobynnRose wrote:

Robynn thanks for the response. I haven't tried the Atkins thing my cardiologist told me I couldn't do that diet. I am eatting pretty good and definitely drinking the water it goes right thru me. At slender lady we do not lift weights it is circuit training and cardio. You are probably right I am transforming to muscle but I want the weight off.. I don't want to get too discouraged and change my mind about the surg because I am having such a difficult time getting it off. I am currently at 231.5 and need to be at 216. I keep trying to keep myself motivitated. Where are you going to have your surg at? Bye the way my name is Rose and I live in El Dorado Hills by Sacramento area. Thanks for the advice and caring..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady, are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches, so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm "under the gun" so to speak. Good luck!armymom1961 wrote:

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on

weightwatchers had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

My highest documented weight at Kaiser is 260. Which orientation did you go to? Is this Richmond, or one of the others? I think it may vary, depending upon the facility....Rose wrote:

Well I'd love to see the diet if you can find it.. Don't put yourself out to find it. At the orientation last sat they said that they would take your highest weight you have documented at Kaiser and the weight thatyou were when you got the referral and also the weigh in weight so you might want to just lose a little before the appt if your able too. It makes the surg much easier so they say. Glad to see you use the pedometer it does help to see how many steps you put in daily so you can increase daily or weekly. Thanks for writing back..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

I think I'm having it at Richmond. I'm similar in weight to you...a little more. I'm 248, and I imagine I'll need to get to 223 or so. I'm 5'6".

I'm surprised that your cardiologist advised against Adkins..lower carb diets tend to help the heart. Of course, lots of people do the "bacon bacon bacon, big fat steaks and lotsa cheese" over and over again...which can't be good for your heart.

I have the Thurman 6 week bodymakeover diet. It's a lower carb diet, but it sticks to lean meats, fish and poultry. Some eggs (but you can use egg whites if you are trying to avoid cholesterol.) I'll dig it out and give you the "regime" if you'd like. In many ways, it mirrors the diet we'll have post-surgery, in that you eat lean meats, veggies, and some fruits. It's worked pretty well in the past for me.

I have to admit that I haven't really begun losing weight. I started walking again (trying to get 10,000 steps a day on my pedometer), and I'm getting more "mindful" of what I'm eating. But, I haven't lost any weight. I'm holding out until I get weighed in, because I know for me that I tend to hit plateaus after I've lost a certain amount...so I want to get weighed in at the weight I am now, and then hit my plateau AFTER I hit the 10%!!

I haven't lost a thing yet. I am a little nervous that once I do get weighed in, I'll lose the weight pretty quickly, but we'll see.

Take care...

RobynnRose wrote:

Robynn thanks for the response. I haven't tried the Atkins thing my cardiologist told me I couldn't do that diet. I am eatting pretty good and definitely drinking the water it goes right thru me. At slender lady we do not lift weights it is circuit training and cardio. You are probably right I am transforming to muscle but I want the weight off.. I don't want to get too discouraged and change my mind about the surg because I am having such a difficult time getting it off. I am currently at 231.5 and need to be at 216. I keep trying to keep myself motivitated. Where are you going to have your surg at? Bye the way my name is Rose and I live in El Dorado Hills by Sacramento area. Thanks for the advice and caring..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady, are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches, so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm "under the gun" so to speak. Good luck!armymom1961 wrote:

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on

weightwatchers had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

It won't be any trouble for me to find the diet, I'll do it tonight if I get the chance.

By the way, I'm sorry that your support network has failed you. That does make it tough. When you get a lot of negative feedback, it's easy to start questioning the wisdom of your decision.

For now, you'll need to look to the people on this website as your support. My husband, from whom I am separated (but we're still very close, and he wants to get back together, I'm the hold out) was very worried about it...and then he started to educate himself. Now he's supportive. He's not as obsessed with the thought as I am. I keep asking him, "So, what do you thinkI'll look like? Do you think you'll find me more attractive?" etc...and he says, "Well...you are already beautiful, so I'm sure I'll still think you're beautiful when you are thinner. I'm glad you are doing it for your health, because I want you around for a long time...but I'm still nervous about how safe it all is, and whether you'll be ok." He acknowledges that for me, my weight has been a really big deal: it has caused me a lot of psychological pain. I've hidden that from most people (except my self-deprecatory remarks), but he has seen me throw tantrums

and fall into depressive moments because of it all. (Boy, that makes me sound ridiculous, doesn't it? And yet...it is what it is.)

Physically, I've basically continued to be pretty active: skiing, sailing, hiking, dancing...whatever. I've tried not to let it slow me down. But there was a long period of time (when I was at my heaviest) where he literally had to drop me at the front door of any place we went because I had such several plantar fascitis. A condition that ultimately improved (completely) when I shed 55 lbs. Now that I'm gaining it back, my feet hurt again. And I've suddenly had constant acid reflux and pain in my tummy and heartburn and pain in my body generally. To feel like crap, just add 4 years and 43 lbs. (I haven't quite gained it all back).

So, Steve and I both can see where this might go if I don't do anything big and proactive and permanente. It's all catching up with me. When weight meets age, things can really go awry, you know? I don't want my weight getting in my way. It already does psychologically...I sure don't want it to cause problems physically!!

That's why he's being supportive. But ultimately, it comes down to me. I'm the one who has to make this decision about my own life. I am the one who has to lose the 10%. I'm the one who has to keep myself on track.

In a way, that's scary. But in another way, it's freeing. Because my future relys upon me (and upon the doctor, too, I guess.) I don't need to get anybody else's approval. This is MY choice, and MY body.

So. be your own support group. No one will advocate for YOU harder than YOU can!Rose wrote:

Robynn thanks for the response. I haven't tried the Atkins thing my cardiologist told me I couldn't do that diet. I am eatting pretty good and definitely drinking the water it goes right thru me. At slender lady we do not lift weights it is circuit training and cardio. You are probably right I am transforming to muscle but I want the weight off.. I don't want to get too discouraged and change my mind about the surg because I am having such a difficult time getting it off. I am currently at 231.5 and need to be at 216. I keep trying to keep myself motivitated. Where are you going to have your surg at? Bye the way my name is Rose and I live in El Dorado Hills by Sacramento area. Thanks for the advice and caring..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady, are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches, so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm "under the gun" so to speak. Good luck!armymom1961 wrote:

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on

weightwatchers had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Robynn--I'm wondering how old you are. I'm 50 years old, and I

noticed that after I turned about 40, my weight related problems &

difficulties really got worse. I think that I was in my early 40's

when my Diabetes reared its ugly presence. My menstrual cycles

became heavier and more irregular and got so bad that I needed a

hysterectomy when I was 47 years old. Actually, I'm glad to be

done

with monthly periods – LOL - but that surgery is really not a

funny

thing. However after that my fat seemed to start to drag down, my

fat tummy felt like it was hanging lower than before.

Anyways, I think that if I had lost this weight and kept if off

(actually 16 years ago, I did loose down to 200 pounds) I'd be in

so

much better health today. I might have avoided many of the aches &

pains of age that I'm experiencing today. But, then again, this

is

20-20 hindsight.

Anyways, this is just my comments on your phrase " when weight

meets

age " .

--Sandi H. (5 ft 1 inch tall)

Dr. Leo – San Diego (Thru Kaiser)

315 at orientation (May '03)

252 at surgery (6/03/04)

Last weighed at 189.0 (12/18/04)

Hopefully someday below 140

sandiantoytrain @ yahoo . com

>When weight meets age, things can really go awry, you know? I don't

want my weight getting in my way. It already does

psychologically...I sure don't want it to cause problems physically!!

[Guest guest]

Well a lot of people in the medical field are not sold on the low carb

thing. I wanted to do it, or even the South Beach diet, and the dietitian,

who works in the diabetes department of Kaiser Sac, said that she didn't

like either of them. Now the one thing that particularly affects blood

sugars, in a negative way, are carbs so you'd think they'd be all for

it. Even though there is a list for diabetics that I have been on, and

even though there are some people who swear by very low carbs for

diabetics, the Kaiser folk don't like it at all, and the dietitian even

went so far as to tell me that she thought it was crazy! LaWanda At 12:58

PM 12/20/04, you wrote:

>I think I'm having it at Richmond. I'm similar in weight to you...a

>little more. I'm 248, and I imagine I'll need to get to 223 or so. I'm 5'6 " .

>

>I'm surprised that your cardiologist advised against Adkins..lower carb

>diets tend to help the heart. Of course, lots of people do the " bacon

>bacon bacon, big fat steaks and lotsa cheese " over and over again...which

>can't be good for your heart.

>

>I have the Thurman 6 week bodymakeover diet. It's a lower carb

>diet, but it sticks to lean meats, fish and poultry. Some eggs (but you

>can use egg whites if you are trying to avoid cholesterol.) I'll dig it

>out and give you the " regime " if you'd like. In many ways, it mirrors the

>diet we'll have post-surgery, in that you eat lean meats, veggies, and

>some fruits. It's worked pretty well in the past for me.

>

>I have to admit that I haven't really begun losing weight. I started

>walking again (trying to get 10,000 steps a day on my pedometer), and I'm

>getting more " mindful " of what I'm eating. But, I haven't lost any

>weight. I'm holding out until I get weighed in, because I know for me

>that I tend to hit plateaus after I've lost a certain amount...so I want

>to get weighed in at the weight I am now, and then hit my plateau AFTER I

>hit the 10%!!

>

>I haven't lost a thing yet. I am a little nervous that once I do get

>weighed in, I'll lose the weight pretty quickly, but we'll see.

>

>Take care...

>

>Robynn

>

>Rose wrote:

>Robynn thanks for the response. I haven't tried the Atkins thing my

>cardiologist told me I couldn't do that diet. I am eatting pretty good

>and definitely drinking the water it goes right thru me. At slender lady

>we do not lift weights it is circuit training and cardio. You are

>probably right I am transforming to muscle but I want the weight off.. I

>don't want to get too discouraged and change my mind about the surg

>because I am having such a difficult time getting it off. I am currently

>at 231.5 and need to be at 216. I keep trying to keep myself

>motivitated. Where are you going to have your surg at? Bye the way my

>name is Rose and I live in El Dorado Hills by Sacramento area. Thanks for

>the advice and caring..

>

>Robynn VanPatten wrote:

>Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict

>reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking

>lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady,

>are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches,

>so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really

>helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

>

>I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows

>how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm " under the gun " so to

>speak. Good luck!

>armymom1961 wrote:

>

>Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice

>I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently

>going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs

>and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I

>am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me

>out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to

>him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him

>the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he

>ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it

>and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a

>couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I

>was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on weightwatchers

>had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight

>just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out

>it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some

>ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Rose,

here's the diet:

breakfast: 3 egg whites and 1 cup greens (or 1/2 grapefruit)

mid-am snack: 3 oz turkey breast and 1 cup greens (they mean salad greens)

lunch 2 oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup rice and 1 cup mixed veggies (can be a salad)

mid-afternoon snack: 3 oz fresh tuna and 1 cup greens

dinner: 2-3 oz lean turkey breast with 1/2 grapefruit

You can substitute any of the proteins for other proteins...but stick to lean meats, fish and poultry. Can substitute fruits and veggies, too.

It works.Robynn VanPatten wrote:

It won't be any trouble for me to find the diet, I'll do it tonight if I get the chance.

By the way, I'm sorry that your support network has failed you. That does make it tough. When you get a lot of negative feedback, it's easy to start questioning the wisdom of your decision.

For now, you'll need to look to the people on this website as your support. My husband, from whom I am separated (but we're still very close, and he wants to get back together, I'm the hold out) was very worried about it...and then he started to educate himself. Now he's supportive. He's not as obsessed with the thought as I am. I keep asking him, "So, what do you thinkI'll look like? Do you think you'll find me more attractive?" etc...and he says, "Well...you are already beautiful, so I'm sure I'll still think you're beautiful when you are thinner. I'm glad you are doing it for your health, because I want you around for a long time...but I'm still nervous about how safe it all is, and whether you'll be ok." He acknowledges that for me, my weight has been a really big deal: it has caused me a lot of psychological pain. I've hidden that from most people (except my self-deprecatory remarks), but he has seen me throw tantrums

and fall into depressive moments because of it all. (Boy, that makes me sound ridiculous, doesn't it? And yet...it is what it is.)

Physically, I've basically continued to be pretty active: skiing, sailing, hiking, dancing...whatever. I've tried not to let it slow me down. But there was a long period of time (when I was at my heaviest) where he literally had to drop me at the front door of any place we went because I had such several plantar fascitis. A condition that ultimately improved (completely) when I shed 55 lbs. Now that I'm gaining it back, my feet hurt again. And I've suddenly had constant acid reflux and pain in my tummy and heartburn and pain in my body generally. To feel like crap, just add 4 years and 43 lbs. (I haven't quite gained it all back).

So, Steve and I both can see where this might go if I don't do anything big and proactive and permanente. It's all catching up with me. When weight meets age, things can really go awry, you know? I don't want my weight getting in my way. It already does psychologically...I sure don't want it to cause problems physically!!

That's why he's being supportive. But ultimately, it comes down to me. I'm the one who has to make this decision about my own life. I am the one who has to lose the 10%. I'm the one who has to keep myself on track.

In a way, that's scary. But in another way, it's freeing. Because my future relys upon me (and upon the doctor, too, I guess.) I don't need to get anybody else's approval. This is MY choice, and MY body.

So. be your own support group. No one will advocate for YOU harder than YOU can!Rose wrote:

Robynn thanks for the response. I haven't tried the Atkins thing my cardiologist told me I couldn't do that diet. I am eatting pretty good and definitely drinking the water it goes right thru me. At slender lady we do not lift weights it is circuit training and cardio. You are probably right I am transforming to muscle but I want the weight off.. I don't want to get too discouraged and change my mind about the surg because I am having such a difficult time getting it off. I am currently at 231.5 and need to be at 216. I keep trying to keep myself motivitated. Where are you going to have your surg at? Bye the way my name is Rose and I live in El Dorado Hills by Sacramento area. Thanks for the advice and caring..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady, are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches, so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm "under the gun" so to speak. Good luck!armymom1961 wrote:

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on

weightwatchers had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I went to the orientation in Fremont with Dr. Dutta. Thats what they said but we had to find the documentation thru our chart within the last year. I'm just going to keep plugging away at it today I weighed in at the gym and lost 3 1/4 lbs so I'm happy about that especially at this time of year and the parties that are going on. I do think the facilities make there own rules. Robynn VanPatten wrote:

My highest documented weight at Kaiser is 260. Which orientation did you go to? Is this Richmond, or one of the others? I think it may vary, depending upon the facility....Rose wrote:

Well I'd love to see the diet if you can find it.. Don't put yourself out to find it. At the orientation last sat they said that they would take your highest weight you have documented at Kaiser and the weight thatyou were when you got the referral and also the weigh in weight so you might want to just lose a little before the appt if your able too. It makes the surg much easier so they say. Glad to see you use the pedometer it does help to see how many steps you put in daily so you can increase daily or weekly. Thanks for writing back..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

I think I'm having it at Richmond. I'm similar in weight to you...a little more. I'm 248, and I imagine I'll need to get to 223 or so. I'm 5'6".

I'm surprised that your cardiologist advised against Adkins..lower carb diets tend to help the heart. Of course, lots of people do the "bacon bacon bacon, big fat steaks and lotsa cheese" over and over again...which can't be good for your heart.

I have the Thurman 6 week bodymakeover diet. It's a lower carb diet, but it sticks to lean meats, fish and poultry. Some eggs (but you can use egg whites if you are trying to avoid cholesterol.) I'll dig it out and give you the "regime" if you'd like. In many ways, it mirrors the diet we'll have post-surgery, in that you eat lean meats, veggies, and some fruits. It's worked pretty well in the past for me.

I have to admit that I haven't really begun losing weight. I started walking again (trying to get 10,000 steps a day on my pedometer), and I'm getting more "mindful" of what I'm eating. But, I haven't lost any weight. I'm holding out until I get weighed in, because I know for me that I tend to hit plateaus after I've lost a certain amount...so I want to get weighed in at the weight I am now, and then hit my plateau AFTER I hit the 10%!!

I haven't lost a thing yet. I am a little nervous that once I do get weighed in, I'll lose the weight pretty quickly, but we'll see.

Take care...

RobynnRose wrote:

Robynn thanks for the response. I haven't tried the Atkins thing my cardiologist told me I couldn't do that diet. I am eatting pretty good and definitely drinking the water it goes right thru me. At slender lady we do not lift weights it is circuit training and cardio. You are probably right I am transforming to muscle but I want the weight off.. I don't want to get too discouraged and change my mind about the surg because I am having such a difficult time getting it off. I am currently at 231.5 and need to be at 216. I keep trying to keep myself motivitated. Where are you going to have your surg at? Bye the way my name is Rose and I live in El Dorado Hills by Sacramento area. Thanks for the advice and caring..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady, are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches, so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm "under the gun" so to speak. Good luck!armymom1961 wrote:

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on

weightwatchers had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Robynn thanks for the diet. I did lose 3 1/4 lbs this week so there is some hope. Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Rose,

here's the diet:

breakfast: 3 egg whites and 1 cup greens (or 1/2 grapefruit)

mid-am snack: 3 oz turkey breast and 1 cup greens (they mean salad greens)

lunch 2 oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup rice and 1 cup mixed veggies (can be a salad)

mid-afternoon snack: 3 oz fresh tuna and 1 cup greens

dinner: 2-3 oz lean turkey breast with 1/2 grapefruit

You can substitute any of the proteins for other proteins...but stick to lean meats, fish and poultry. Can substitute fruits and veggies, too.

It works.Robynn VanPatten wrote:

It won't be any trouble for me to find the diet, I'll do it tonight if I get the chance.

By the way, I'm sorry that your support network has failed you. That does make it tough. When you get a lot of negative feedback, it's easy to start questioning the wisdom of your decision.

For now, you'll need to look to the people on this website as your support. My husband, from whom I am separated (but we're still very close, and he wants to get back together, I'm the hold out) was very worried about it...and then he started to educate himself. Now he's supportive. He's not as obsessed with the thought as I am. I keep asking him, "So, what do you thinkI'll look like? Do you think you'll find me more attractive?" etc...and he says, "Well...you are already beautiful, so I'm sure I'll still think you're beautiful when you are thinner. I'm glad you are doing it for your health, because I want you around for a long time...but I'm still nervous about how safe it all is, and whether you'll be ok." He acknowledges that for me, my weight has been a really big deal: it has caused me a lot of psychological pain. I've hidden that from most people (except my self-deprecatory remarks), but he has seen me throw tantrums

and fall into depressive moments because of it all. (Boy, that makes me sound ridiculous, doesn't it? And yet...it is what it is.)

Physically, I've basically continued to be pretty active: skiing, sailing, hiking, dancing...whatever. I've tried not to let it slow me down. But there was a long period of time (when I was at my heaviest) where he literally had to drop me at the front door of any place we went because I had such several plantar fascitis. A condition that ultimately improved (completely) when I shed 55 lbs. Now that I'm gaining it back, my feet hurt again. And I've suddenly had constant acid reflux and pain in my tummy and heartburn and pain in my body generally. To feel like crap, just add 4 years and 43 lbs. (I haven't quite gained it all back).

So, Steve and I both can see where this might go if I don't do anything big and proactive and permanente. It's all catching up with me. When weight meets age, things can really go awry, you know? I don't want my weight getting in my way. It already does psychologically...I sure don't want it to cause problems physically!!

That's why he's being supportive. But ultimately, it comes down to me. I'm the one who has to make this decision about my own life. I am the one who has to lose the 10%. I'm the one who has to keep myself on track.

In a way, that's scary. But in another way, it's freeing. Because my future relys upon me (and upon the doctor, too, I guess.) I don't need to get anybody else's approval. This is MY choice, and MY body.

So. be your own support group. No one will advocate for YOU harder than YOU can!Rose wrote:

Robynn thanks for the response. I haven't tried the Atkins thing my cardiologist told me I couldn't do that diet. I am eatting pretty good and definitely drinking the water it goes right thru me. At slender lady we do not lift weights it is circuit training and cardio. You are probably right I am transforming to muscle but I want the weight off.. I don't want to get too discouraged and change my mind about the surg because I am having such a difficult time getting it off. I am currently at 231.5 and need to be at 216. I keep trying to keep myself motivitated. Where are you going to have your surg at? Bye the way my name is Rose and I live in El Dorado Hills by Sacramento area. Thanks for the advice and caring..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady, are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches, so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm "under the gun" so to speak. Good luck!armymom1961 wrote:

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on

weightwatchers had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Great! Congratulations!Rose wrote:

Robynn thanks for the diet. I did lose 3 1/4 lbs this week so there is some hope. Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Rose,

here's the diet:

breakfast: 3 egg whites and 1 cup greens (or 1/2 grapefruit)

mid-am snack: 3 oz turkey breast and 1 cup greens (they mean salad greens)

lunch 2 oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup rice and 1 cup mixed veggies (can be a salad)

mid-afternoon snack: 3 oz fresh tuna and 1 cup greens

dinner: 2-3 oz lean turkey breast with 1/2 grapefruit

You can substitute any of the proteins for other proteins...but stick to lean meats, fish and poultry. Can substitute fruits and veggies, too.

It works.Robynn VanPatten wrote:

It won't be any trouble for me to find the diet, I'll do it tonight if I get the chance.

By the way, I'm sorry that your support network has failed you. That does make it tough. When you get a lot of negative feedback, it's easy to start questioning the wisdom of your decision.

For now, you'll need to look to the people on this website as your support. My husband, from whom I am separated (but we're still very close, and he wants to get back together, I'm the hold out) was very worried about it...and then he started to educate himself. Now he's supportive. He's not as obsessed with the thought as I am. I keep asking him, "So, what do you thinkI'll look like? Do you think you'll find me more attractive?" etc...and he says, "Well...you are already beautiful, so I'm sure I'll still think you're beautiful when you are thinner. I'm glad you are doing it for your health, because I want you around for a long time...but I'm still nervous about how safe it all is, and whether you'll be ok." He acknowledges that for me, my weight has been a really big deal: it has caused me a lot of psychological pain. I've hidden that from most people (except my self-deprecatory remarks), but he has seen me throw tantrums

and fall into depressive moments because of it all. (Boy, that makes me sound ridiculous, doesn't it? And yet...it is what it is.)

Physically, I've basically continued to be pretty active: skiing, sailing, hiking, dancing...whatever. I've tried not to let it slow me down. But there was a long period of time (when I was at my heaviest) where he literally had to drop me at the front door of any place we went because I had such several plantar fascitis. A condition that ultimately improved (completely) when I shed 55 lbs. Now that I'm gaining it back, my feet hurt again. And I've suddenly had constant acid reflux and pain in my tummy and heartburn and pain in my body generally. To feel like crap, just add 4 years and 43 lbs. (I haven't quite gained it all back).

So, Steve and I both can see where this might go if I don't do anything big and proactive and permanente. It's all catching up with me. When weight meets age, things can really go awry, you know? I don't want my weight getting in my way. It already does psychologically...I sure don't want it to cause problems physically!!

That's why he's being supportive. But ultimately, it comes down to me. I'm the one who has to make this decision about my own life. I am the one who has to lose the 10%. I'm the one who has to keep myself on track.

In a way, that's scary. But in another way, it's freeing. Because my future relys upon me (and upon the doctor, too, I guess.) I don't need to get anybody else's approval. This is MY choice, and MY body.

So. be your own support group. No one will advocate for YOU harder than YOU can!Rose wrote:

Robynn thanks for the response. I haven't tried the Atkins thing my cardiologist told me I couldn't do that diet. I am eatting pretty good and definitely drinking the water it goes right thru me. At slender lady we do not lift weights it is circuit training and cardio. You are probably right I am transforming to muscle but I want the weight off.. I don't want to get too discouraged and change my mind about the surg because I am having such a difficult time getting it off. I am currently at 231.5 and need to be at 216. I keep trying to keep myself motivitated. Where are you going to have your surg at? Bye the way my name is Rose and I live in El Dorado Hills by Sacramento area. Thanks for the advice and caring..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady, are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches, so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm "under the gun" so to speak. Good luck!armymom1961 wrote:

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on

weightwatchers had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

thank youRobynn VanPatten wrote:

Great! Congratulations!Rose wrote:

Robynn thanks for the diet. I did lose 3 1/4 lbs this week so there is some hope. Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Rose,

here's the diet:

breakfast: 3 egg whites and 1 cup greens (or 1/2 grapefruit)

mid-am snack: 3 oz turkey breast and 1 cup greens (they mean salad greens)

lunch 2 oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup rice and 1 cup mixed veggies (can be a salad)

mid-afternoon snack: 3 oz fresh tuna and 1 cup greens

dinner: 2-3 oz lean turkey breast with 1/2 grapefruit

You can substitute any of the proteins for other proteins...but stick to lean meats, fish and poultry. Can substitute fruits and veggies, too.

It works.Robynn VanPatten wrote:

It won't be any trouble for me to find the diet, I'll do it tonight if I get the chance.

By the way, I'm sorry that your support network has failed you. That does make it tough. When you get a lot of negative feedback, it's easy to start questioning the wisdom of your decision.

For now, you'll need to look to the people on this website as your support. My husband, from whom I am separated (but we're still very close, and he wants to get back together, I'm the hold out) was very worried about it...and then he started to educate himself. Now he's supportive. He's not as obsessed with the thought as I am. I keep asking him, "So, what do you thinkI'll look like? Do you think you'll find me more attractive?" etc...and he says, "Well...you are already beautiful, so I'm sure I'll still think you're beautiful when you are thinner. I'm glad you are doing it for your health, because I want you around for a long time...but I'm still nervous about how safe it all is, and whether you'll be ok." He acknowledges that for me, my weight has been a really big deal: it has caused me a lot of psychological pain. I've hidden that from most people (except my self-deprecatory remarks), but he has seen me throw tantrums

and fall into depressive moments because of it all. (Boy, that makes me sound ridiculous, doesn't it? And yet...it is what it is.)

Physically, I've basically continued to be pretty active: skiing, sailing, hiking, dancing...whatever. I've tried not to let it slow me down. But there was a long period of time (when I was at my heaviest) where he literally had to drop me at the front door of any place we went because I had such several plantar fascitis. A condition that ultimately improved (completely) when I shed 55 lbs. Now that I'm gaining it back, my feet hurt again. And I've suddenly had constant acid reflux and pain in my tummy and heartburn and pain in my body generally. To feel like crap, just add 4 years and 43 lbs. (I haven't quite gained it all back).

So, Steve and I both can see where this might go if I don't do anything big and proactive and permanente. It's all catching up with me. When weight meets age, things can really go awry, you know? I don't want my weight getting in my way. It already does psychologically...I sure don't want it to cause problems physically!!

That's why he's being supportive. But ultimately, it comes down to me. I'm the one who has to make this decision about my own life. I am the one who has to lose the 10%. I'm the one who has to keep myself on track.

In a way, that's scary. But in another way, it's freeing. Because my future relys upon me (and upon the doctor, too, I guess.) I don't need to get anybody else's approval. This is MY choice, and MY body.

So. be your own support group. No one will advocate for YOU harder than YOU can!Rose wrote:

Robynn thanks for the response. I haven't tried the Atkins thing my cardiologist told me I couldn't do that diet. I am eatting pretty good and definitely drinking the water it goes right thru me. At slender lady we do not lift weights it is circuit training and cardio. You are probably right I am transforming to muscle but I want the weight off.. I don't want to get too discouraged and change my mind about the surg because I am having such a difficult time getting it off. I am currently at 231.5 and need to be at 216. I keep trying to keep myself motivitated. Where are you going to have your surg at? Bye the way my name is Rose and I live in El Dorado Hills by Sacramento area. Thanks for the advice and caring..Robynn VanPatten wrote:

Have you tried doing an Atkins kind of thing? Sometimes the strict reduction of carbs can make a difference. Also, are you really drinking lots of water? That can make a big difference to me. At Slender Lady, are you lifting weights? It sounds like you are losing a lot of inches, so it could be that you are transforming fat to muscle...which is really helpful in the long run: it will help to boost your metabolic rate.

I'm worried, too...because I haven't been weighed in yet...so who knows how quickly I'll lose the weight once I'm "under the gun" so to speak. Good luck!armymom1961 wrote:

Hi I just finished my 7th step yesterday. Anyone got any advice I've been struggling losing weight for a long time. I am currently going to Slender Lady 4-5 days a week. Last month I only lost 3 lbs and 7 3/4 inches. I need to still lose 15.9 lbs to get the surg I am very motivated to get the surg. People I talk to try to talk me out of it my husband says he is supportive but when I try to talk to him about it he says he doesn't want to talk about it. I asked him the other day when we went to the orientation in Fremont what he ment by that how can you be supportive but not want to talk about it and he said you'll see. I've been struggling to lose weight for a couple of years now so I am a little discouraged with that part I was doing really good 2 years ago losing weight on

weightwatchers had lost 45 lbs then had a heart attack and since then the weight just doesn't want to budge. I thought it was my meds but found out it isn't. Well thanks for letting me vent to hopefully get some ideas as to what i could or should be doing right now.

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Somehow Kim has to teach us how to pronounce "uffffffffff!" Rose

Re: Hi Everyone

The nuerosurgeon was for the accident, but I asked him if he ever heard of NS, he just looked at me very skeptically and said "Yes, but it is very rare and almost impossible to diagnose". In other words, honey, you don't have it, and if you did, noone would be able to tell anyway! Nice! It is so nice to be able to come here and have people who understand!

I hear you, (it's just so rare that it is impossible for "YOU" to have it) ... well, yes, it is rare, and you are looking at one of the rare and few!!! ... I can't tell you how many dr.s have told me this over the last several months ... week, even .... ufffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!

Joan

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, first off, I was raised Catholic. The only thing I remember is my

white dress, white head thing made of lace & I think a kid's missal (what we

used instead of Bibles; I don't know what they use now. I left the Catholic

church in 1973 & a lot has changed). Marla would know; she has probably

responded already but I haven't gotten that far down my inbox! I will

attach an adorable picture of me on my first Communion day. We lived in

Tucson, Arizona & went out into the desert after Mass. I'm with my two

brothers. I'm pretty sure I didn't wear mocasins to church! I had just

sent this picture to my little granddaughter a in San who made

her first Communion Sunday. Rose

Hi Everyone

> Hello Everyone,

> I hope everyone is doing well. I have had a really challenging week

> or so. This is what my doctors used to call Traumatic Brain

> Relapse. I am thinking it is a NS flair. My brain can only handle

> one thing at a time and it seems to fixate on that one thing. I

> can't seem to get enough energy to do the basics that need to be

> done everyday and a lot of days I have trouble remembering what

> needs to get done. This episode is a little bit better than the

> others in that I have felt strong enough both physically and more

> importantly mentally to still have the girls home without

> assistance. I think that might be from the prednisone, because I

> have gone the longest without an episode since being on it, and this

> one was the most mild, although still very frustrating.

> What really stinks is the next two weeks are going to be horrible

> and I am afraid it will keep me in this bad spot, or even make it

> worse! My daughters have a spring concert tonight that I have to

> find special outfits for. MY oldest daughter has her first

> communion on Saturday with a picnic here at the house afterword. I

> have to remember to order the cake, I keep forgetting that. Then on

> Tuesday they have some big ceremony at school and then Thursday I

> leave for California to cook some burgers for a judge!

> I know in my head that I just need to take each day slowly as it

> comes and just do what I can every day. But I am still afraid that

> I will forget something important or not do something that needed to

> be done for anyone, or all of these events!

> On top of all that, my roof has several leaks and has ruined one of

> the walls in the house so I have to have people around here banging

> making all kinds of noise and a mess! The lawn needs to be tended,

> and I can't find any neighborhood kids to do it, the house is

> getting messier and if it rains the picnic will have to be inside,

> then what? I think I broke my finger this week, but I can't rememver

> how I did it! It is just a finger, and I am really tired of going

> to Drs and there isn't much they can do for a finger, but it does

> hurt! I am going to get a splint for it today. HELP!

> I used to be so good at this stuff! My friends always commented on

> the great parties I had and asked advice on parties they were

> having. People always commented on how clean my house was and how

> nice my yard looked. I could always make a list and prioritize

> everything I needed to do. I hate this more than the physical

> limitations. I just moved here a year ago and I invited all the

> neighbors on our whole street to come to the party when I was having

> a good week! I wanted to make a good impression. Not so likely now!

> But the most important thing is My daughter's Communion Ceremony and

> that she has everything she needs for that. I bought her a nice

> dress, but I was not raised Catholic, is it against the board rules

> if I just ask if anyone knows what a little girl needs for her first

> communion?

> Well, I hope everyone is having a painfree day and can always find

> at least one thing to smile about.

> Lots of Love,

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, I was raised Catholic, too...and I remember something white on our heads and white shoes and white socks....everything white! hugs S.Rose wrote:

, first off, I was raised Catholic. The only thing I remember is mywhite dress, white head thing made of lace & I think a kid's missal (what weused instead of Bibles; I don't know what they use now. I left the Catholicchurch in 1973 & a lot has changed). Marla would know; she has probablyresponded already but I haven't gotten that far down my inbox! I willattach an adorable picture of me on my first Communion day. We lived inTucson, Arizona & went out into the desert after Mass. I'm with my twobrothers. I'm pretty sure I didn't wear mocasins to church! I had justsent this picture to my little granddaughter a in San who madeher first Communion Sunday. Rose Hi Everyone> Hello Everyone,> I hope everyone is doing well. I have had a really challenging week> or so. This is what my doctors used to call Traumatic Brain> Relapse. I am thinking it is a NS flair. My brain can only handle> one thing at a time and it seems to fixate on that one thing. I> can't seem to get enough energy to do the basics that need to be> done everyday and a lot of days I have trouble remembering what> needs to get done. This episode is a little bit better than the> others in that I have felt strong enough both physically and more> importantly mentally to still have the girls home without> assistance. I think that might be from the prednisone, because I> have gone the longest without an episode since being on it, and this>

one was the most mild, although still very frustrating.> What really stinks is the next two weeks are going to be horrible> and I am afraid it will keep me in this bad spot, or even make it> worse! My daughters have a spring concert tonight that I have to> find special outfits for. MY oldest daughter has her first> communion on Saturday with a picnic here at the house afterword. I> have to remember to order the cake, I keep forgetting that. Then on> Tuesday they have some big ceremony at school and then Thursday I> leave for California to cook some burgers for a judge!> I know in my head that I just need to take each day slowly as it> comes and just do what I can every day. But I am still afraid that> I will forget something important or not do something that needed to> be done for anyone, or all of these events!> On top of all that, my roof has several leaks and

has ruined one of> the walls in the house so I have to have people around here banging> making all kinds of noise and a mess! The lawn needs to be tended,> and I can't find any neighborhood kids to do it, the house is> getting messier and if it rains the picnic will have to be inside,> then what? I think I broke my finger this week, but I can't rememver> how I did it! It is just a finger, and I am really tired of going> to Drs and there isn't much they can do for a finger, but it does> hurt! I am going to get a splint for it today. HELP!> I used to be so good at this stuff! My friends always commented on> the great parties I had and asked advice on parties they were> having. People always commented on how clean my house was and how> nice my yard looked. I could always make a list and prioritize> everything I needed to do. I hate this more than the

physical> limitations. I just moved here a year ago and I invited all the> neighbors on our whole street to come to the party when I was having> a good week! I wanted to make a good impression. Not so likely now!> But the most important thing is My daughter's Communion Ceremony and> that she has everything she needs for that. I bought her a nice> dress, but I was not raised Catholic, is it against the board rules> if I just ask if anyone knows what a little girl needs for her first> communion?> Well, I hope everyone is having a painfree day and can always find> at least one thing to smile about.> Lots of Love,> >>>>>>>> ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~> The Neurosarcoidosis Community>> NS CHAT:- Has been cancelled for now.>> Message Archives:-> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/messages>> Members Database:-> Listings of locations, phone numbers, and instant messengers.> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/database>>