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In a message dated 08/16/1999 1:30:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

LoveNKids2@... writes:

<< I have a question!! Are any of you familiar with the Laproscopic Stomach

Stapling methods? Have you or do you know someone who has had the surgery?

I am interested in knowing about the side effects of this surgery!

Did you get really sick? Did it work? How did you function after the

surgery? Also, if anyone has any good links about this, please send my way!

Thanks!! >>

I'm extremely sorry to say, but I have a friend who's mother DIED from an

infection after having the surgery. I certainly wouldn't recommend it, but

it may be an option if you are like 2000 pounds. Sorry for the sarcasm, but

I would NEVER do it.

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In a message dated 8/16/99 9:56:25 PM Central Daylight Time, MT2Heal@...

writes:

<< I guess I'm about to unsub from that list as they

tend to be too sensitive to the hard cold facts about some things in life

and

can't take the truth at all.

It really has be upset now. >>

Don't worry what anyone says heck if I got mad everytime some else was mad at

me I would stay mad. Do what's right in your heart and say what you feel and

don't leave.

Amy

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  • 1 year later...

I think I must be experiencing this kind of dumping too....I tested out a few

bites of pumkin cheesecake on Xmas...and got very lightheaded. And today for

lunch, I was again tired and lightheaded all of a sudden...all I can think of

was that it was a little ketchup?

Silly as it seems, I am glad to have some kind of reaction to sugar. I seem

to be tolerating most other foods well...with the noteable exception of pasta

(not just ravioli, all kinds, ugh! LOL)

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a,

Sorry you experienced that, however, my Dr. said that fatigue and feeling

" out of it " is also a sign of dumping. It can do a number of things to

one's body: Rapid heartbeat, shakes, sweats, fatigue, confusion (that's

me), and sometimes diarrhea/cramping.

Just wanted to share with you'll on that. It's a form of dumping, which can

also be a " delayed dumping " which can effect some, ranging from 20 minutes

all the way as far as 12 hours later!

ps...what did you have for dessert? ;)

Dawn

Re: Question

Hi Lois--

Congrats on the 99 lbs.! You must feel terrific!

I too have experienced the fatigue you wrote about. I do not dump

often

at all, but the fatigue does happen with sugary things from time to

time. (For me, it's when I have too much chocolate or cake.)

Over the holidays, I did very well when it came to food. I did have a

small problem on Christmas day at dessert. And shortly after I had my

dessert. I fell asleep for FOUR HOURS! Completely exhausted,

nauseated,

and out of it. What I learned was that I had too much dessert and

this

seemed to be my body's reaction to the sugar, and an alternative to

dumping. With the sudden exhaustion, it kind of threw me. I'm fine

now

though!

Hope this helps!

--a

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Hi Lois--

Congrats on the 99 lbs.! You must feel terrific!

I too have experienced the fatigue you wrote about. I do not dump

often

at all, but the fatigue does happen with sugary things from time to

time. (For me, it's when I have too much chocolate or cake.)

Over the holidays, I did very well when it came to food. I did have a

small problem on Christmas day at dessert. And shortly after I had my

dessert. I fell asleep for FOUR HOURS! Completely exhausted,

nauseated,

and out of it. What I learned was that I had too much dessert and

this

seemed to be my body's reaction to the sugar, and an alternative to

dumping. With the sudden exhaustion, it kind of threw me. I'm fine

now

though!

Hope this helps!

--a

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  • 2 weeks later...

How far out are you? Do you still have staples in? You may want to call

your Dr. just to rule out everything, but hopefully, it's something with

muscle tightening or something " silly " . Please keep us posted, and good

luck!

Dawn

Question

Hi,

I've had some pain over the last week in the lower left side of my

stomach - it hurts to bend down, cough and sometimes even hurts to

the touch. I'm attributing it to healing. Has anyone else

experienced this? Is it normal?

Thanks

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Sally,

I am 7 weeks out. Most of the time I am not hungry and really have to force

myself to eat. However, I have had " hungry " days where I have to stop myself

from grazing... This really scares me so recently out, but the good news is

I am aware of it and even when I eat too many meals the quantity is so small

compared to what I use to eat, I try not to worry about it too much. I find

that the surgery has given me great insight into my food triggers and eating

habits. As they told me from the beginning the surgery is a tool, the rest

of it is work on our part. I just did not think I was going have to " work "

so early after surgery.

It is great that you are getting your fluids in, but try real hard to get

your protein in. Remember that the protein aids in the healing process and

your body needs it. I think you are right where you are supposed to be..

Joni - Dr. Thayer 11/27/00

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Joni and Sheva,

I was one of those people who had many " last suppers " before my surgery.

I gained 11 lbs from August's first consultation and a visit in December.

Dr. Thayer was not happy with me and expressed that unhappiness. I knew what

I would be up against if I ever showed up in the future with a not so good

weight. I am working hard now so postoperatively. I have no appetite really

and am just keeping fluids going. Will see them in 2 weeks for a check.

Is that common immediately postop to not have an appetite and just push

fluids because you know you need to? Sally

question

>

> Does the doctor like you to loose a few pounds before

> you have you surgery? If so how much would they like

> you to loose or to try? Sheva

>

>

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Sheva,

When I told my family about my plans for surgery I made it very clear to

them that I was not seeking their approval, only their support. I was very

fortunate that everyone was loving and supportive. On the other hand they

had also seen my gain and loose 100's of pounds over the years and new that

I was clinical depressed.

Hang in there,

Joni - Dr. Thayer 11/27/00

Question

Just was wondering if anyone had any bad in put from

family members about this surgery? I have not told my

side of the family yet. I do not plan on it till it is

all over with. But my husbands family is giving me

alot of grieve about it. They keep telling me to go on

a diet and to exercise the weight will come off. I am

getting to the point where I will start to be nasty

with them.Any advice would be great thanks . Sheva

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Sheva:

I picked and chose who I wanted to tell about my upcoming surgery. When I

told my mom we got into a very loud argument about what a huge mistake I was

making. I finally told her that I would not talk to her again regarding the

surgery, that I have other people I can talk with to get support from.

Occasionally she brings the subject up and I change it. I asked her to come

to the Feb. 1 support meeting with me at NWH and she flat out said no. If

she wants to remain ignorant regarding the surgery then that is her choice.

I will have this done, I will loose weight and I will prove her wrong.

Unfortunately if I have any complications at all I know her first words will

be " I told you so. "

I know this is the right decision for me, I am 39 years old and plan on

living the rest of my life happy and healthy!

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Hi ,

I know you addressed your comment to Sheva, but I had to post and tell you I think your attitude is GREAT!! I am so happy that you realize you have to live for YOU, and not anyone else. And you are right, if and when you need support, you can count on it here...everyone on this list is GREAT!!!

Good luck, and keep us posted!!

{{{Hugs}}}

Sue

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Who was your Dr., and what are their protocols? Each surgeon require

different methods, so I don't want to mislead you, or have you eat something

your " not allowed " just YET.

Dawn

QUESTION

Hi im a 3 week post op. What should i be eating? I need some advice on what

to eat.Need some new thing. Thinks

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I go to the doctors on Feb2,01 to see Dr.Thayer.anyone who has had him please

if you could answer this for me. What is the next step for eating so I can be

prepared for it. I will be four weeks post op then.

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You will slowly add new foods, every 4-5 days in 3 phases. You can eat

saltines!! 5 at a time, this was such a treat for me... I don't have my

paperwork with me but I believe it goes something like this:

Phase 1:

Eggs - scrambled, poached, etc.

Soups - any kind

Meats - 1 oz chicken, turkey, fish, meatloaf (I had a 1/4 of a meatball)

Veggies - 1/2 C cooked

Cheese - 1 oz

Saltines - 5

Phase 2:

Omelets

1/2 C casserole [this was great - I had lasagna, Shepard's pie, etc..]

raw veggies

Phase 3:

Salad

Toasted bread

That's all I can remember... But right now I can eat just about anything.. I

still get full very quickly and have to remind myself to slow down... They

will go over this thoroughly on the 2nd.

Good luck,

Joni - Dr. Thayer 11/27/00

Question

I go to the doctors on Feb2,01 to see Dr.Thayer.anyone who has had him

please

if you could answer this for me. What is the next step for eating so I can

be

prepared for it. I will be four weeks post op then.

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