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<<My suggestions would be to not try to hold her off.>>

I guess I didn't clarify myself. I meant hold off from giving her more

formula (we were never able to overcome our 4 oz/day). The problem is

she won't continue to nurse, she will pull off and go right back about

6-8 times and then she just starts screaming. That's when I try to hold

her off and distract her a little bit.

But, that is how I got my supply up to where it is. Her and I would camp

out on the couch for 4-5 hours every night (the only time she USED to

have a problem), and she would just continue sucking - now she won't even

do that!!

Vicki - USMC wife to SSgt Head 2nd LAR Camp LeJeune NC & SAHM to CJ

(2/6/91), Jaclyn (2/24/95), and (4/23/99)

On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:12:59 +0000 Howell

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>

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>> she will be 3 months in 2 days. But, I will nurse her and

>> she seems to nurse strongly for about 5-7 minutes, then starts

>pulling

>> off the breast. She even gets impatient waiting for my let down,

>which

>> usually occurs about 1 minute after she starts. I know there's

>always

>> supposed to be just one more drop, but when she starts doing this, I

>> can't even express one drop! I switch her and she will do the same

>thing

>> after a couple of minutes on the other breast. She acts very

>frustrated.

>> I try to distract her and hold her off for at least a 1/2 hour or

>so,

>> then she wants to eat again, only it will last for about 2-3

>minutes. It

>> just feels like it is taking forever to replenish my milk. She is

>> sleeping through the night - from about 10pm to 5am, and I'm sure

>this is

>> having some impact.

>

>Sounds like a classic growth spurt pattern to me! :) My suggestions

>would be to not try to hold her off. The more she suckles and the

>more

> " last drops " she can express, the greater your supply will be. Give

>it

>about 2-3 days, and you'll both meet in the middle. If you are still

>worried that your supply isn't up to par, wake her for a night

>nursing.

>7 hours isn't too long of a stretch at night, but adding one more

>feeding will certainly increase your supply based on her demand.

>

>

>

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> she will be 3 months in 2 days. But, I will nurse her and

> she seems to nurse strongly for about 5-7 minutes, then starts pulling

> off the breast. She even gets impatient waiting for my let down, which

> usually occurs about 1 minute after she starts. I know there's always

> supposed to be just one more drop, but when she starts doing this, I

> can't even express one drop! I switch her and she will do the same thing

> after a couple of minutes on the other breast. She acts very frustrated.

> I try to distract her and hold her off for at least a 1/2 hour or so,

> then she wants to eat again, only it will last for about 2-3 minutes. It

> just feels like it is taking forever to replenish my milk. She is

> sleeping through the night - from about 10pm to 5am, and I'm sure this is

> having some impact.

Sounds like a classic growth spurt pattern to me! :) My suggestions

would be to not try to hold her off. The more she suckles and the more

" last drops " she can express, the greater your supply will be. Give it

about 2-3 days, and you'll both meet in the middle. If you are still

worried that your supply isn't up to par, wake her for a night nursing.

7 hours isn't too long of a stretch at night, but adding one more

feeding will certainly increase your supply based on her demand.

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> Hi there, I know I've been kinda quiet for a while, but I kept up -

> knowing I'd have another question soon!!

>

> Here goes - I am having major supply problems. This is just starting,

> but I'd like to nip it in the bud, since I've been battling this from the

> beginning.

Meant to add: " This too shall pass! " :)

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Vicki,

It sounds to me as if she the pumping might be interfering as you are

feeding that milk to her. She is better at emptying your breast than your

pump is. Everytime you pump and give her that milk that is a nursing that

she could have had that would have stimulated your milk supply better. I

would suggest trying to eliminate giving her any bottles for a couple days

and just have a nurseathon that will increase your supply better than

anything. If you want to pump a couple times during the night that would

be some extra stimulation but try not to give this to her as it will fill

her up and then that's less stim. I know I am rambling but I hope this

makes some sense. Letting her nurse nonstop for a few days will kick start

your supply. No pacifiers either, let her pacify herself on you.

Fenugreek is an herb that helps to increase lactation.

Wendi

Help Ladies...

Hi there, I know I've been kinda quiet for a while, but I kept up -

knowing I'd have another question soon!!

Here goes - I am having major supply problems. This is just starting,

but I'd like to nip it in the bud, since I've been battling this from the

beginning. I know part of it is that is going through another

growth spurt - she will be 3 months in 2 days. But, I will nurse her and

she seems to nurse strongly for about 5-7 minutes, then starts pulling

off the breast. She even gets impatient waiting for my let down, which

usually occurs about 1 minute after she starts. I know there's always

supposed to be just one more drop, but when she starts doing this, I

can't even express one drop! I switch her and she will do the same thing

after a couple of minutes on the other breast. She acts very frustrated.

I try to distract her and hold her off for at least a 1/2 hour or so,

then she wants to eat again, only it will last for about 2-3 minutes. It

just feels like it is taking forever to replenish my milk. She is

sleeping through the night - from about 10pm to 5am, and I'm sure this is

having some impact.

Is there anything else I can do to increase my supply? I'm having a hard

time with the whole pumping thing. Seems she will drink all that, and

still be hungry anyways. Should I try taking herbs? Is there anything I

can get from my doctor?

Like I said, this is getting frustrating for both of us, and with her

being my last baby, I really wanted this to last as long as possible.

Thank you ladies in advance, I'm sure I will get the answers I am looking

for!!

Vicki - USMC wife to SSgt Head 2nd LAR Camp LeJeune NC & SAHM to CJ

(2/6/91), Jaclyn (2/24/95), and (4/23/99)

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Mother's Milk Tea, Fenugreek and Blessed Thistle tea are all good for

increasing your supply. Most Health food stores carry the teas....

HTH,

Tammy

>

> Help Ladies...

>

>

>

>

> Hi there, I know I've been kinda quiet for a while, but I kept up -

> knowing I'd have another question soon!!

>

> Here goes - I am having major supply problems. This is just starting,

> but I'd like to nip it in the bud, since I've been battling this from the

> beginning. I know part of it is that is going through another

> growth spurt - she will be 3 months in 2 days. But, I will nurse her and

> she seems to nurse strongly for about 5-7 minutes, then starts pulling

> off the breast. She even gets impatient waiting for my let down, which

> usually occurs about 1 minute after she starts. I know there's always

> supposed to be just one more drop, but when she starts doing this, I

> can't even express one drop! I switch her and she will do the same thing

> after a couple of minutes on the other breast. She acts very frustrated.

> I try to distract her and hold her off for at least a 1/2 hour or so,

> then she wants to eat again, only it will last for about 2-3 minutes. It

> just feels like it is taking forever to replenish my milk. She is

> sleeping through the night - from about 10pm to 5am, and I'm sure this is

> having some impact.

>

> Is there anything else I can do to increase my supply? I'm having a hard

> time with the whole pumping thing. Seems she will drink all that, and

> still be hungry anyways. Should I try taking herbs? Is there anything I

> can get from my doctor?

>

> Like I said, this is getting frustrating for both of us, and with her

> being my last baby, I really wanted this to last as long as possible.

>

> Thank you ladies in advance, I'm sure I will get the answers I am looking

> for!!

>

>

> Vicki - USMC wife to SSgt Head 2nd LAR Camp LeJeune NC & SAHM to CJ

> (2/6/91), Jaclyn (2/24/95), and (4/23/99)

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> I guess I didn't clarify myself. I meant hold off from giving her more

> formula (we were never able to overcome our 4 oz/day). The problem is

> she won't continue to nurse, she will pull off and go right back about

> 6-8 times and then she just starts screaming. That's when I try to hold

> her off and distract her a little bit.

Do you think she may be becoming nipple confused? Most babies find it

difficult to switch between the breast and artificial nipples when they

are learning to breastfeed. Some babies become fussy during feedings,

and eventually refuse the breast. Other babies are willing to take the

breast but suck incorrectly. A nipple-confused baby who tries to nurse

may get frustrated easily since she is receiving less milk for her

efforts. This can result in slow weight gain, too.

You are still giving 4 ounces of formula a day... are you using a bottle

to give it? Newborns can drink from cups, spoons, eyedroppers, and

peridontal feeding syringes, although feedings can take longer using

these methods until a baby becomes practiced at them. By feeding

slowly, the baby should be able to drink the milk.

These suggestions may make it easier:

Hold the baby so that she is as upright as possible;

Put a small amount of the supplement (expressed mother's milk or

formula) in the container;

Put the container to the baby's lips, allowing a small amount of liquid

to go into the baby's mouth (it doesn't take much for a mouthful);

Give the baby time to swallow each mouthful before offering more;

Protect the baby's and your own clothing from spills with a towel or

diaper.

If your supply is low from using supplements the past three months, try

pumping and nursing to build your supply, and use your expressed milk as

the supplemental fluid first, before the formula.

Getting your nipple confused baby back to the breast may take some time

and patience; it could be as long as it took to become confused. When

your baby becomes upset, stop and comfort her before trying the breast

again. Nursing shouldn't be associated with unhappiness. The initial

steps of getting your baby back to your breast might be easier if you

consider them " practice sessions " too.

All babies have a natural urge to suck, and when the artificial nipple

is not available, the baby will become more interested in taking the

breast. You can try offering the breast for comfort, too.

Teaching a baby to breastfeed can be very time-consuming and frustrating

for both mother and baby. You might want to avoid spending time with

anyone who might undermine your confidence in yourself, and if at all

possible, get help with household chores. Supportive helpers can make

this difficult time less overwhelming.

Once your baby is breastfeeding again, she will need time -- usually

several weeks -- without artificial nipples to learn to breastfeed well.

(Most of this comes from a LLL pamphlet on Nipple Confusion.)

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> I guess I didn't clarify myself. I meant hold off from giving her more

> formula (we were never able to overcome our 4 oz/day). The problem is

> she won't continue to nurse, she will pull off and go right back about

> 6-8 times and then she just starts screaming. That's when I try to hold

> her off and distract her a little bit.

Do you think she may be becoming nipple confused? Most babies find it

difficult to switch between the breast and artificial nipples when they

are learning to breastfeed. Some babies become fussy during feedings,

and eventually refuse the breast. Other babies are willing to take the

breast but suck incorrectly. A nipple-confused baby who tries to nurse

may get frustrated easily since she is receiving less milk for her

efforts. This can result in slow weight gain, too.

You are still giving 4 ounces of formula a day... are you using a bottle

to give it? Newborns can drink from cups, spoons, eyedroppers, and

peridontal feeding syringes, although feedings can take longer using

these methods until a baby becomes practiced at them. By feeding

slowly, the baby should be able to drink the milk.

These suggestions may make it easier:

Hold the baby so that she is as upright as possible;

Put a small amount of the supplement (expressed mother's milk or

formula) in the container;

Put the container to the baby's lips, allowing a small amount of liquid

to go into the baby's mouth (it doesn't take much for a mouthful);

Give the baby time to swallow each mouthful before offering more;

Protect the baby's and your own clothing from spills with a towel or

diaper.

If your supply is low from using supplements the past three months, try

pumping and nursing to build your supply, and use your expressed milk as

the supplemental fluid first, before the formula.

Getting your nipple confused baby back to the breast may take some time

and patience; it could be as long as it took to become confused. When

your baby becomes upset, stop and comfort her before trying the breast

again. Nursing shouldn't be associated with unhappiness. The initial

steps of getting your baby back to your breast might be easier if you

consider them " practice sessions " too.

All babies have a natural urge to suck, and when the artificial nipple

is not available, the baby will become more interested in taking the

breast. You can try offering the breast for comfort, too.

Teaching a baby to breastfeed can be very time-consuming and frustrating

for both mother and baby. You might want to avoid spending time with

anyone who might undermine your confidence in yourself, and if at all

possible, get help with household chores. Supportive helpers can make

this difficult time less overwhelming.

Once your baby is breastfeeding again, she will need time -- usually

several weeks -- without artificial nipples to learn to breastfeed well.

(Most of this comes from a LLL pamphlet on Nipple Confusion.)

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> I guess I didn't clarify myself. I meant hold off from giving her more

> formula (we were never able to overcome our 4 oz/day). The problem is

> she won't continue to nurse, she will pull off and go right back about

> 6-8 times and then she just starts screaming. That's when I try to hold

> her off and distract her a little bit.

Do you think she may be becoming nipple confused? Most babies find it

difficult to switch between the breast and artificial nipples when they

are learning to breastfeed. Some babies become fussy during feedings,

and eventually refuse the breast. Other babies are willing to take the

breast but suck incorrectly. A nipple-confused baby who tries to nurse

may get frustrated easily since she is receiving less milk for her

efforts. This can result in slow weight gain, too.

You are still giving 4 ounces of formula a day... are you using a bottle

to give it? Newborns can drink from cups, spoons, eyedroppers, and

peridontal feeding syringes, although feedings can take longer using

these methods until a baby becomes practiced at them. By feeding

slowly, the baby should be able to drink the milk.

These suggestions may make it easier:

Hold the baby so that she is as upright as possible;

Put a small amount of the supplement (expressed mother's milk or

formula) in the container;

Put the container to the baby's lips, allowing a small amount of liquid

to go into the baby's mouth (it doesn't take much for a mouthful);

Give the baby time to swallow each mouthful before offering more;

Protect the baby's and your own clothing from spills with a towel or

diaper.

If your supply is low from using supplements the past three months, try

pumping and nursing to build your supply, and use your expressed milk as

the supplemental fluid first, before the formula.

Getting your nipple confused baby back to the breast may take some time

and patience; it could be as long as it took to become confused. When

your baby becomes upset, stop and comfort her before trying the breast

again. Nursing shouldn't be associated with unhappiness. The initial

steps of getting your baby back to your breast might be easier if you

consider them " practice sessions " too.

All babies have a natural urge to suck, and when the artificial nipple

is not available, the baby will become more interested in taking the

breast. You can try offering the breast for comfort, too.

Teaching a baby to breastfeed can be very time-consuming and frustrating

for both mother and baby. You might want to avoid spending time with

anyone who might undermine your confidence in yourself, and if at all

possible, get help with household chores. Supportive helpers can make

this difficult time less overwhelming.

Once your baby is breastfeeding again, she will need time -- usually

several weeks -- without artificial nipples to learn to breastfeed well.

(Most of this comes from a LLL pamphlet on Nipple Confusion.)

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