Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Dear Rhonda, I evidently skimmed over this when it originally appeared and thought I must have mis-read it. Didn't go back to really check it out. You are so right. And now I am completely confused and befuddled too. Ellen rheumatic Dr. Mercola's success without antibiotics Hello group: I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks about Dr. Mercola's announcement (posted by someone in the group a few days ago) that he is now able to treat RA successfully without using antibiotics. I haven't seen any comment about it. Following is part of the post: > I always felt that I had failed because I had to resort to the use of antibiotics. > Well, this year seems to mark the transition in my version of the > antibiotic > protocol. The major change seems to be the use of Metabolic Typing > <http://www.mercola.com/2003/feb/26/metabolic_typing.htm> . Since we > have > integrated Metabolic Typing with full use of EFT to address the > stressors > that seem to be universally present in RA, we have been able to cause > RA to > routinely go into remission without the use of antibiotics. > To say I am excited is a serious understatement. To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 I may be wrong, but I take this to mean that he doesn't use the AP with newly diagnosed RA, but he will use it if he deems it necessary. Just my opinion, Carol/Piney rheumatic Dr. Mercola's success without antibiotics > > > Hello group: > I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks about Dr. Mercola's > announcement (posted by someone in the group a few days ago) that he is now > able to treat RA successfully without using antibiotics. I haven't seen any > comment about it. > Following is part of the post: > > > > I always felt that I had failed because I had to resort to the use of > antibiotics. > > Well, this year seems to mark the transition in my version of the > > antibiotic > > protocol. The major change seems to be the use of Metabolic Typing > > <http://www.mercola.com/2003/feb/26/metabolic_typing.htm> . Since we > > have > > integrated Metabolic Typing with full use of EFT to address the > > stressors > > that seem to be universally present in RA, we have been able to cause > > RA to > > routinely go into remission without the use of antibiotics. > > To say I am excited is a serious understatement. > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 about dr mercola's words on not needing the antibiotic protocal. i think EFT technique and the metabolic typing diet are GREAT compliments to the AP. they both support bringing the body into a better state to fight infection. BUT everyone is different and is at a different state healthwise. for me...my arms are not strong enough to do the EFT techniques yet. but with the antibiotics i will get there. each case is different and needs a combo of different things, however, the metabolic typing diet and the EFT are underestimated (i think). hope everyone is having a great day. rachael > Dear Rhonda, > > I evidently skimmed over this when it originally appeared and thought I must have mis-read it. Didn't go back to really check it out. You are so right. And now I am completely confused and befuddled too. > > Ellen > rheumatic Dr. Mercola's success without antibiotics > > > Hello group: > I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks about Dr. Mercola's > announcement (posted by someone in the group a few days ago) that he is now > able to treat RA successfully without using antibiotics. I haven't seen any > comment about it. > Following is part of the post: > > > > I always felt that I had failed because I had to resort to the use of > antibiotics. > > Well, this year seems to mark the transition in my version of the > > antibiotic > > protocol. The major change seems to be the use of Metabolic Typing > > <http://www.mercola.com/2003/feb/26/metabolic_typing.htm> . Since we > > have > > integrated Metabolic Typing with full use of EFT to address the > > stressors > > that seem to be universally present in RA, we have been able to cause > > RA to > > routinely go into remission without the use of antibiotics. > > To say I am excited is a serious understatement. > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 In a message dated 7/22/2003 9:43:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rhonda@... writes: > I haven't seen any > comment about it. > While I believe prayer can cure people and while I believe some people can will their bodies well, I have never seen an infection dissapppear without antibiotics so I am skeptical. a good site to see more of Dr. Mercola's type of thinking here however would be <A HREF= " www.pattyconklin.com " >www.pattyconklin.com</A> Ann Pritchard " Deep in the center of our beings is an infinite wealth of love " <A HREF= " http://www.rheumatic.org/medhist.htm " >http://www.rheumatic.org/medhist.htm\ </A> < latest published work. <A HREF= " http://groups.msn.com/TyroMedia/pictures " >http://groups.msn.com/TyroMedia/\ pictures</A> < latest photos <A HREF= " http://melungeon_music.tripod.com/melungeonmusic/ " >Melungeon Music</A> < 's Web Site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Just some " armchair " theorizing here--I think this is *all* about the immune system. Antibiotics fight infection. Other treatments, such as the ones used by Dr. Mercola or the ones used by homeopaths, help the body use its own resources to fight infection. So does a healthy diet. So do supplements and exercise. I agree that for many the non-antibiotic treatments may not be enough. The same can be said about pneumonia--I'm glad the antibiotics are available as well. > > Dear Rhonda, > > > > I evidently skimmed over this when it originally appeared and > thought I must have mis-read it. Didn't go back to really check it > out. You are so right. And now I am completely confused and > befuddled too. > > > > Ellen > > rheumatic Dr. Mercola's success without antibiotics > > > > > > Hello group: > > I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks about Dr. Mercola's > > announcement (posted by someone in the group a few days ago) that > he is now > > able to treat RA successfully without using antibiotics. I > haven't seen any > > comment about it. > > Following is part of the post: > > > > > > > I always felt that I had failed because I had to resort to the > use of > > antibiotics. > > > Well, this year seems to mark the transition in my version of > the > > > antibiotic > > > protocol. The major change seems to be the use of Metabolic > Typing > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2003/feb/26/metabolic_typing.htm> . > Since we > > > have > > > integrated Metabolic Typing with full use of EFT to address the > > > stressors > > > that seem to be universally present in RA, we have been able to > cause > > > RA to > > > routinely go into remission without the use of antibiotics. > > > To say I am excited is a serious understatement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Hi everyone: I thought I would stop lurking and add my comments. I am the patient that Dr. Mercola refers to in his article. Here are my thoughts: First of all, I would like to thank this group for helping me to find Dr. Mercola. I didn't even know he existed until I started reading posts from all of you. My initial rationale for choosing Dr. M was based on the fact that he was willing to prescribe Minocin to treat the DM. At the time I was desperate to find a doctor who would accommodate my request, since my rheumy was unwilling. In other words I didn't chose Dr. Mercola based on his philosophy regarding diet, I went to him to get the minocin. I'm sure you can all relate! Boy was I in for a surprise when I went to see him. He agreed to prescribe the minocin under one condition, I had to change my diet and start juicing. I agreed! I was willing to do anything to get the drug. A month went by before he gave me the prescription. During that time I was juicing daily, eliminated wheat, all other grains, sugar, and dairy from my diet, and was taking cod liver oil along with a few other supplements. Within that time frame, my rash started fading and I was regaining more energy and was sleeping less. I started the minocin at the end of 07/01 and took it until 02/03. Of course, I continued the diet, started working with Jody, the therapist; and from time to time, Jordan performed live cell blood tests on me. I attribute most of my success in recovering from DM to changing my diet, especially juicing. I will never stop juicing; it helped me to build up my immune system. Jody really helped me to better deal with stress and emotional issues that contributed to the disease. I think that the stress I was dealing with at the time of onset, along with some other issues, acted as a catalyst to jump starting the disease. Throughout the treatment live cell blood testing provided a picture of what I need to do to clean up my blood (ie., colon cleansing, parasite cleansing, candida cleansing, etc.) to further improve. This was really helpful, as well. In retrospect, I feel that the Minocin helped me to faster achieve remission. However, I think I could have achieved the same results by just following Mercola's program, even though it would have taken longer. Of course, I can't say this with 100% certainty, because I did follow the antibiotic protocol. If I had to do it all over again, it's hard to say if I would use the minocin,knowing what I know now. As you all know, there are some cons to using minocin; mainly, candida and the stress it puts on the liver. Currently, I am trying to get the yeasties under control and trying to revive a sluggish liver. Of course, this is nothing compared to the pain, weakness, and fatigue of DM. I am just happy to be healthy these days. And I will be forever grateful to Dr. Mercola for his help. He really is a very caring person who has his patient's best interests at heart. This is rare in his profession. Just my thoughts. I feel privileged to be part of this group and thank all of you for your help. Sincerely, Suzanne Delich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Hi everyone: I thought I would stop lurking and add my comments. I am the patient that Dr. Mercola refers to in his article. Here are my thoughts: First of all, I would like to thank this group for helping me to find Dr. Mercola. I didn't even know he existed until I started reading posts from all of you. My initial rationale for choosing Dr. M was based on the fact that he was willing to prescribe Minocin to treat the DM. At the time I was desperate to find a doctor who would accommodate my request, since my rheumy was unwilling. In other words I didn't chose Dr. Mercola based on his philosophy regarding diet, I went to him to get the minocin. I'm sure you can all relate! Boy was I in for a surprise when I went to see him. He agreed to prescribe the minocin under one condition, I had to change my diet and start juicing. I agreed! I was willing to do anything to get the drug. A month went by before he gave me the prescription. During that time I was juicing daily, eliminated wheat, all other grains, sugar, and dairy from my diet, and was taking cod liver oil along with a few other supplements. Within that time frame, my rash started fading and I was regaining more energy and was sleeping less. I started the minocin at the end of 07/01 and took it until 02/03. Of course, I continued the diet, started working with Jody, the therapist; and from time to time, Jordan performed live cell blood tests on me. I attribute most of my success in recovering from DM to changing my diet, especially juicing. I will never stop juicing; it helped me to build up my immune system. Jody really helped me to better deal with stress and emotional issues that contributed to the disease. I think that the stress I was dealing with at the time of onset, along with some other issues, acted as a catalyst to jump starting the disease. Throughout the treatment live cell blood testing provided a picture of what I need to do to clean up my blood (ie., colon cleansing, parasite cleansing, candida cleansing, etc.) to further improve. This was really helpful, as well. In retrospect, I feel that the Minocin helped me to faster achieve remission. However, I think I could have achieved the same results by just following Mercola's program, even though it would have taken longer. Of course, I can't say this with 100% certainty, because I did follow the antibiotic protocol. If I had to do it all over again, it's hard to say if I would use the minocin,knowing what I know now. As you all know, there are some cons to using minocin; mainly, candida and the stress it puts on the liver. Currently, I am trying to get the yeasties under control and trying to revive a sluggish liver. Of course, this is nothing compared to the pain, weakness, and fatigue of DM. I am just happy to be healthy these days. And I will be forever grateful to Dr. Mercola for his help. He really is a very caring person who has his patient's best interests at heart. This is rare in his profession. Just my thoughts. I feel privileged to be part of this group and thank all of you for your help. Sincerely, Suzanne Delich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 In a message dated 7/22/2003 11:10:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Zannie68@... writes: > I started the minocin at the end of 07/01 and took it until 02/03. Hi Suzanne, Thanks for clearing this up. I agree Dr Mercola is a caring person. He once said if he knew I was in Santa Barbara when he was he would have stopped in and seen me. I believe the antibiotics are not a cure, only a way to achieve and maintain remission, and I am happy to hear you are doing better. Please keep us informed of your continuing health status. I am always happy to hear when someone gets better! Ann Pritchard " Deep in the center of our beings is an infinite wealth of love " <A HREF= " http://www.rheumatic.org/medhist.htm " >http://www.rheumatic.org/medhist.htm\ </A> < latest published work. <A HREF= " http://groups.msn.com/TyroMedia/pictures " >http://groups.msn.com/TyroMedia/\ pictures</A> < latest photos <A HREF= " http://melungeon_music.tripod.com/melungeonmusic/ " >Melungeon Music</A> < 's Web Site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 I believe that Dr. Mercola does use AP - evidence in the story told by his patient, with DM... his comment that he is thrilled that he is able to have patients (RA) achieve remission without the use of antibiotics is a recent achievement of his which is great... Many who alter their diets and add supplements, cleanses etc. benefit with reduced symptoms and even achieve remission, but others will still need antibiotics. I'm sure he assess his patients individually and bases his treatment accordingly. There are many theories that auto-immune disorders are linked to allergic reactions to foods and when the stimuli are removed the symptoms improve. That's my 2 cents... ) Liesl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 , I am with you. I am glad thean tibitocis are available. I would wonder if his techniques address the mycoplasma and how this mechanism owrks. Love Marge > > Dear Rhonda, > > > > I evidently skimmed over this when it originally appeared and > thought I must have mis-read it. Didn't go back to really check it > out. You are so right. And now I am completely confused and > befuddled too. > > > > Ellen > > rheumatic Dr. Mercola's success without antibiotics > > > > > > Hello group: > > I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks about Dr. Mercola's > > announcement (posted by someone in the group a few days ago) that > he is now > > able to treat RA successfully without using antibiotics. I > haven't seen any > > comment about it. > > Following is part of the post: > > > > > > > I always felt that I had failed because I had to resort to the > use of > > antibiotics. > > > Well, this year seems to mark the transition in my version of > the > > > antibiotic > > > protocol. The major change seems to be the use of Metabolic > Typing > > > <http://www.mercola.com/2003/feb/26/metabolic_typing.htm> . > Since we > > > have > > > integrated Metabolic Typing with full use of EFT to address the > > > stressors > > > that seem to be universally present in RA, we have been able to > cause > > > RA to > > > routinely go into remission without the use of antibiotics. > > > To say I am excited is a serious understatement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 As I recall there are two ways of having RA. I had the chronic, everyday, every night pain with no let up. My brother-in-law has RA but it cycles on and off. He could go weeks, sometimes months in between flair ups. Going on special diets and supplements is a great idea, but I wonder if it will suffice in the long run. Someone may simply cycle off for awhile and assume they are " cured " . Last January after almost 18 months in remission I got a bit sloppy with my meds. Skipping and such when I knew I should maintain three day a week schedule. After several weeks the RA started to reappear and really scared the you-know-what out of me!! I went back on five days a week off weekends and after a few weeks the pain in my hands went away. Now I eat healthy, take supplements, AND take my minocin three days a week. Remission is great....pain is the pits!!! Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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