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Hi & welcome,

Let me first say ANEMIA (tired and cold). Have a doc check this out. Take Slow

FE iron with vitamin C for this and eat iron rich foods.

The next, wait until you find out size, amount and location before you decide

anything. You may want to see an RE if you plan kids. You have many options. Ask

questions and study.

There's women on this board in the Netherlands. They may be helpful to you.

Bye, Ku

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Ku....

thanks for replying. i wondered if i didn't have anemia. i slept for 4 hours

yesteday afternoon.

i hope some of the members that are in the netherlands will respond to my

letter and let me know how things went for them here. i have heard horror

stories about some of the medical things here, and i have heard some really

good stories. i really like my general doc. so i hope he sends me to a good

gyn.

i have a stupid question what is RE?

my boyfriend wants to call the doc tomorrow..(monday) and not wait till

tuesday for the doc to call. i think he is a bit worried.

i have noticed too that i get irritated and annoyed really fast, does that

have anything to do with fibroids?

well anyone in the netherlands please respond to my email. i would really

appreciate it. i live in alkmaar.

thanks again Ku for responding and for your advice.

elizabeth

>From: kukalaka Reply-To: uterinefibroids To:

>uterinefibroids Subject: Re: abroad

>newbie Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:04:32 -0700 (PDT)

>The next, wait until you find out size, amount and location before you

>decide anything. You may want to see an RE if you plan kids. You have many

>options. Ask questions and study.

>

>There's women on this board in the Netherlands. They may be helpful to you.

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Ku....

thanks for replying. i wondered if i didn't have anemia. i slept for 4 hours

yesteday afternoon.

i hope some of the members that are in the netherlands will respond to my

letter and let me know how things went for them here. i have heard horror

stories about some of the medical things here, and i have heard some really

good stories. i really like my general doc. so i hope he sends me to a good

gyn.

i have a stupid question what is RE?

my boyfriend wants to call the doc tomorrow..(monday) and not wait till

tuesday for the doc to call. i think he is a bit worried.

i have noticed too that i get irritated and annoyed really fast, does that

have anything to do with fibroids?

well anyone in the netherlands please respond to my email. i would really

appreciate it. i live in alkmaar.

thanks again Ku for responding and for your advice.

elizabeth

>From: kukalaka Reply-To: uterinefibroids To:

>uterinefibroids Subject: Re: abroad

>newbie Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:04:32 -0700 (PDT)

>The next, wait until you find out size, amount and location before you

>decide anything. You may want to see an RE if you plan kids. You have many

>options. Ask questions and study.

>

>There's women on this board in the Netherlands. They may be helpful to you.

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Hi,

A RE is a Reproductive Endocrinologist. They are a GYN with special training for

the most part. They do more types of surgeries and in-vitro and fertility

treatments.

You do sound anemic. Anemia can get bad quick, it's nothing to mess with. I've

been to the ER more than once with it. Get some Slow FE iron (slow release iron)

and vitamin C. You will feel better. It takes time to get back to normal, up to

a year or more depending on how anemic you are. So keep on top of this. The

getting " annoyed easily " could be anemia related. Sleeping 4 hours in the

afternoon sounds like anemia. Drink lots of WATER. Very important. Not soda or

caffine containing drinks, WATER. You can often be dehydrated with anemia or

with heavy bleeding. Drink water.

Ask for anyone in the Netherlands to respond to you in the Subject line at the

top. This may help them see it better and not accidently skip over your posts.

Hope this helps, Ku

Montoya wrote:

Ku....

thanks for replying. i wondered if i didn't have anemia. i slept for 4 hours

yesteday afternoon.

i hope some of the members that are in the netherlands will respond to my

letter and let me know how things went for them here. i have heard horror

stories about some of the medical things here, and i have heard some really

good stories. i really like my general doc. so i hope he sends me to a good

gyn.

i have a stupid question what is RE?

my boyfriend wants to call the doc tomorrow..(monday) and not wait till

tuesday for the doc to call. i think he is a bit worried.

i have noticed too that i get irritated and annoyed really fast, does that

have anything to do with fibroids?

well anyone in the netherlands please respond to my email. i would really

appreciate it. i live in alkmaar.

thanks again Ku for responding and for your advice.

elizabeth

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Hello,

My name is Neli and I'm 36 years old. I've been recently diagnosed with multiple

uterine fibroids, after a visit to the ER. I'm anaemic from so much bleeding and

now I Finlay found a doctor which seems more up to date (I forgot to tell that

I'm living in Romania) and wants to try something else than hysterectomy(which

was another doctor advise). So what he is suggesting is a three months treatment

with DIPHERELINE. I'm going to make the injection today and I'm Little bt

worried about the side effects. Did any of you ladies took this treatment? I

mean before miomectomy.

After I joined this group i received so many e-mails, I'm so impressed of how

many we are and I'm thinking at all that women which doesn't receive enough

information and loose their uterus so young.

Looking for to receive an answer,

Neli

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I have to disagree with the comment of it taking a year or more to recover

from anemia. A friend of mine was diagnosed with anemia and turned it

around in 6 months. I was diagnosed as anemic with a lower hemoglobin level

than she had. (I don't recall the exact number, but take the low range of

" normal " , divide by 2, and you had my number.) After a month and more

complications, my doctor did another test and saw no improvement, despite

the iron I was taking and the abundance of iron-rich foods I was eating.

She then gave me a prescription for iron. I've since discovered that I can

get it without a prescription at Walgreens, although you have to ask the

pharmacist for it. Getting the prescription was good the first time though,

because it taught me how to take the iron. What I'm taking is " ferrous

gluconate " (324 mg) from Paddock. It's supposed to be the type of iron

that is most easily absorbed by the body. When I take it, I take it with a

piece of fruit because vitamin C helps in the absorption. I also do not

take any dairy products within a couple of hours before and after taking it

because calcium inhibits the absorption of iron. With the megadoses my

doctor had me taking, I turned my hemoglobin number around to barely within

the normal range, and it was very noticeable in how better I felt. She cut

me back on iron since I was making such a rapid improvement. I've since

noticed a setback in how I feel, so I'm sure we just haven't got the right

dosage yet.

On another note, my friend was diagnosed as anemic after she went to the

doctor complaining of being depressed. The doctor discovered that she was

anemic, not depressed. In my case, it was sheer chance that the doctor did

a blood test because I was not complaining about anything. I actually

thought though that I had been bored for years. (I had reassessed my life

and career and decided I was happy, so I couldn't understand where the

boredom was coming from.) I think it's funny how people can respond

differently to the way they feel when they're anemic - one person thought

she was depressed and one person thought she was bored.

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Hi,

Is diphereline Lupron? You are saying that you are taking 3 months of this drug

by injection, sounds like lupron. I can't find anything on this drug in English.

Ku

cecilia gheorghe wrote:

Hello,

My name is Neli and I'm 36 years old. I've been recently diagnosed with multiple

uterine fibroids, after a visit to the ER. I'm anaemic from so much bleeding and

now I Finlay found a doctor which seems more up to date (I forgot to tell that

I'm living in Romania) and wants to try something else than hysterectomy(which

was another doctor advise). So what he is suggesting is a three months treatment

with DIPHERELINE. I'm going to make the injection today and I'm Little bt

worried about the side effects. Did any of you ladies took this treatment? I

mean before miomectomy.

After I joined this group i received so many e-mails, I'm so impressed of how

many we are and I'm thinking at all that women which doesn't receive enough

information and loose their uterus so young.

Looking for to receive an answer,

Neli

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> i have noticed too that i get irritated and annoyed really fast,

does that

> have anything to do with fibroids?

_______________________________________________

Hi and the Lovely LOL ~

I am not a Netherlander, but I can FULLY share your Mood

Misgivings (especially when it comes to mistreatin' your man!).

And, I felt you could use a little empowerment and a reminder

that you,

1) Didn't ASK for these nasty little invaders and

2) Probably didn't DO anything to invite them in.

With that in mind, I have decided to put my lacking lyrical

licensure to the test to help you see how very NORMAL you really

are!

So, here is my poem to you . . .

(I accept no responsibility for the groans and moans associated

with reading this less than rhythmic recanting). :)

**** The AVERAGE Fibroid Owner ****

(feel free to re-title this to suit your liking!)

We beautiful women are a big melting pot,

with questions and answers and advice on a lot!

Some of us got them at 40, 30 or 20,

others wait 'til near menopause for problems a'plenty.

We are not all Tall, we are not all Small, but none of us would

wear white to a Cinderella's Ball!

Some of us are real thin and can run a full mile,

while some of us eat like it's going out of style. ;)

We are drinkers and smokers and meat eaters, too.

We have vegans and health nuts and yoga gurus.

Some sleep a lot and others a little.

Some have money, some have none, and some are right down

the middle.

Asthma, arthritis, arrhythmias, Whew!

Colitis, dermatitis, just to name a few.

Endometriosis, adenomyosis, cysts and a polyp.

Not to mention what they find at every other follow-up!!

We come from all backgrounds and every single race

and each of us carries a very different face.

So what brings us together, what makes us the same?

We heard it the day our doctor gave our symptoms a name.

Fibroids, my dear, are what bring us here . . .

Grumpy, and mopey, and happy or glad.

You deserve your emotions and none are THAT bad.

We're dealing with something for which only one question

needed asking.

By a doctor who's wisdom is above all the rest,

come the words that require no ultrasound test. . .

" Looking back on the last (insert age and years here):

Has anything, or anyone, at any-point in your life,

given you any reason at all to believe that you are now,

have ever been, or ever will be . . . a Female? "

If the answer is " yes " then the rest is quite clear. Sign on to

NUFF without a blink or a tear.

Come share your story 'cuz we all want to hear.

Everyone's different and everything's fine, even when you are

sure you are losing your mind! ;)~

***** Can someone say Sybill?? *****

Cheers and Cheer-Ups to you, . You happen to be in a

very full boat, filled with ornery, intelligent, witty young women

who are (not always) gleefully traveling up that proverbial creek

---

but don't worry, a lot of us brought paddles! ;)~

All my best to you (and your boyfriend!),

Ima-Not-Quittin'-My-Day-Job-Crock.

**

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Hi,

It can take a year or more to get all your iron stores back up to normal

depending on how anemic you are. I had no iron stores at all. Your count goes up

in months but it takes longer to build up your stores. I'm concerned that some

very anemic women might stop their iron before they have built their stores up.

They might say hey I feel better and still have low or no stores. That's why I

always say it takes time, sometimes a year. It can.

Ku

Merrill Albert wrote:

I have to disagree with the comment of it taking a year or more to recover

from anemia. A friend of mine was diagnosed with anemia and turned it

around in 6 months. I was diagnosed as anemic with a lower hemoglobin level

than she had. (I don't recall the exact number, but take the low range of

" normal " , divide by 2, and you had my number.) After a month and more

complications, my doctor did another test and saw no improvement, despite

the iron I was taking and the abundance of iron-rich foods I was eating.

She then gave me a prescription for iron. I've since discovered that I can

get it without a prescription at Walgreens, although you have to ask the

pharmacist for it. Getting the prescription was good the first time though,

because it taught me how to take the iron. What I'm taking is " ferrous

gluconate " (324 mg) from Paddock. It's supposed to be the type of iron

that is most easily absorbed by the body. When I take it, I take it with a

piece of fruit because vitamin C helps in the absorption. I also do not

take any dairy products within a couple of hours before and after taking it

because calcium inhibits the absorption of iron. With the megadoses my

doctor had me taking, I turned my hemoglobin number around to barely within

the normal range, and it was very noticeable in how better I felt. She cut

me back on iron since I was making such a rapid improvement. I've since

noticed a setback in how I feel, so I'm sure we just haven't got the right

dosage yet.

On another note, my friend was diagnosed as anemic after she went to the

doctor complaining of being depressed. The doctor discovered that she was

anemic, not depressed. In my case, it was sheer chance that the doctor did

a blood test because I was not complaining about anything. I actually

thought though that I had been bored for years. (I had reassessed my life

and career and decided I was happy, so I couldn't understand where the

boredom was coming from.) I think it's funny how people can respond

differently to the way they feel when they're anemic - one person thought

she was depressed and one person thought she was bored.

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hi elizabeth! i think fibroids definitely affected my moods. i can say that

now because after surgery...almost every member of my family has told me that

i am a much nicer person. i think they were telling me nicely that i used to

be an unbearable bitch. i had awful PMS...bloating, pain, etc. late

periods...missed periods...hemoragghing...i was extremely anemic and had no

idea. i

was always too tired to do anything or go anywhere...but had to because of my

work. i don't know how i got through it...i just did. now...after surgery, i

feel like i can do anything!!!!! and for the first time in my life...my

period comes every 28 days...lasts 3-4 days.... & I no longer suffer from PMS.

so,

to answer your question again...yes, i do believe that fibroids affect your

moods. when the body is not healthy then it's going to affect you.

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it's seems like lupron, anyway it's my first day after the injection and I'm

feeling OK, no flushes or sweting during the night

kukalaka wrote:Hi,

Is diphereline Lupron? You are saying that you are taking 3 months of this drug

by injection, sounds like lupron. I can't find anything on this drug in English.

Ku

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