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In a message dated 11/3/2004 10:32:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jsbach@... writes:

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> Cindi, I didn't know about the T3/serotonin connection. Do you know

> where I can get more info on that

,

When I was first diagnosed, I did a lot of research on low thyroid and mental

disturbances. I do not remember where I found the info below, but I had put

it in a summary I had done for a BDD forum. If you use some of those words in

a search, I imagine you would come up with some articles like I did. Here's

an excerpt from my summary about the serotonin:

What is " brain hypothyroidism " ?

This is a term that has been used to indicate a low level or abnormal

distribution of T3 in the brain even though the thyroid gland is producing

adequate

levels of thyroid hormone. Reduced cerebral thyroid expression could

therefore, contribute to a host of psychological symptoms. This would also

explain

why many patients with psychiatric conditions respond well to thyroid support,

since there are extensive T3 receptors in the brain. The effectiveness of

SSRIs such as Prozac may be effective in some patients due to the drugs effect

of

increasing the availability of T3 in the brain.

How does serotonin fit into this thyroid dysfunction?

, author of " The Broken Mirror " , has theorized that BDD is

caused by a chemical imbalance that was most likely genetically inherited by

family members that have OCD or anxiety disorders. She claims that BDDers

have a deficiency in production of the neurotransmitter called serotonin and

recommends SSRIs for treatment.

The low thyroid condition causing BDD theory does not in any way disagree

with Dr. ' theory. In fact, it would confirm it and would explain why

the BDD patient has a lack of serotonin in the brain.

The thyroid hormone, T3, is the most biologically active form of thyroid

hormone. T3 is actually a bona fide neurotransmitter that regulates the action

of

serotonin, norepinephrine, and GABA (gamma amino butyric acid), an inhibitory

neurotransmitter that is important for stopping anxiety.

T3 is found in large quantities in the limbic system of the brain, the area

that is important for emotions such as joy, panic, anger, and fear. If you

don't have enough T3, or if its action is blocked, an entire cascade of

neurotransmitter abnormalities may ensue and can lead to mood and energy

changes.

Cindi

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Serotonin is a brain chemical that makes you happy, calm and horny. You

know how you feel after a couple hours of lying in the sun? That's

serotonin.

Cindi, I didn't know about the T3/serotonin connection. Do you know

where I can get more info on that? I've been on Armour for a year and

all my symptoms are basically gone *except* for extreme irritability. I

use an SSRI (antidepressant) for that, which works great, but I consider

it only a temporary solution. I want to find out why I have low

serotonin and fix that.

Caroline wrote:

> So how does seratonin work really?

after Cindi wrote

> not enough T3 in the brain and you don't have enough serotonin.

> i guess giving out Armour Thyroid isn't as profitable as SSRIs,

> anti-psychotics, anti-depressants.

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>>Doctors can also raise brain levels of serotonin by prescribing pills

containing T3, a hormone produced by peripheral tissue from T4, which is

produced by the thyroid gland. (1) They also prescribe T3 by itself or

together with antidepressants. Depression is common among people who have

too much or too little thyroid hormone. Doctors usually treat low thyroid

function with T4 also known as Levothroid and many people become even more

depressed. They treat this depression by prescribing T3 as well as T4.<<

This is from this website but I think he is dolling out too little thyroid,

as usual!

http://www.drmirkin.com/morehealth/G171.htm

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Oh really? I LOVE the sun & even bought a sun lamp I haven't been using this

year. Should go back to it I supposed. The sun always makes me feel SO good!

Have always been a sun worshipper since a small child. It always tans me, never

burns.

None of us gets enough sun no doubt. We need it for all kinds of growth in our

bodies just like plants & trees do. We need the full spectrum rays & infrared

rays & all the phytonutrients from all the colors of the rainbow in the full

spectrum solar rays. I've got full spectrum light bulbs in my house but they

aren't enough tho they do help, yes.

Was thinking of buying a far-infrared sauna which are supposed to be miraculous

in detoxing the body & for mood swings, depression, fatigue, pain

relief...everything.

But haven't got the $funds$ right now. The cheapest portable model costs $2500.

Worth it though for those who can afford it. Wish I could.

Re: serotonin

Serotonin is a brain chemical that makes you happy, calm and horny. You

know how you feel after a couple hours of lying in the sun? That's

serotonin.

Cindi, I didn't know about the T3/serotonin connection. Do you know

where I can get more info on that? I've been on Armour for a year and

all my symptoms are basically gone *except* for extreme irritability. I

use an SSRI (antidepressant) for that, which works great, but I consider

it only a temporary solution. I want to find out why I have low

serotonin and fix that.

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