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Racheal,

Very often sinus can be fungal rather than bacterial or allergy.

I have had what you describe. You are seeing what the result is.I

also have used the proxide baths as I can feel my sinuses decongest

when I take them. I have used peroxide as a gargle and some in an

inhaler as well. It helps clear things up.

This will do the trick.Its miserable going through it.

Love

Marge

> hi everyone. i just started a course of diflucan (through my AP

> doc) one week ago. its 100 mg per day for 3 weeks. i felt a warm

> sensation in my face (sinus area) when i take it and light headed.

> now the past few days i feel very sick....sinus headache, extreme

> nausea, fatigue, and my muscles feel weaker and lowgrade fever. i

> spent most of day in bed the past 2 days. yuk. maybe i just have

a

> virus... but if anyone has experienced this from antifungal therapy

> (maybe die off herx) let me know. whatever it is i hope it

subsides

> SOON. but im not sure if i should lower my dosage of anything.

> thanks!

>

> rachael

> dermatomyositis

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Kathy,

Your new flare may be due to the ragweed season. I don't know what area

you currently reside in, but ragweed is totally out of control in the DC

Metro area. Seasonal allergies always make my RA flare and I generally

feel worse. BTW, I am glad the flagyl is working for you. I have a

feeling that I need to be on that too. I am diabetic and I always have

yeast problems even w/out the AP.

Best wishes,

Mel

rheumatic Herx?

I have taken flagyl for the third time yesterday. The other doses

were last Tuesday and Thursday @ 500 mg./day, and yesterday. I just

came out of a flare that lasted a couple of months, and for the past

three weeks I have been feeling pretty good. But this morning, I

hurt. Its all specific, not an overall bad feeling. Pain in my

hands, fingers, and a few other specific areas.

My question - could this be a herx from the flagyl?

Kathy

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[Guest guest]

Kathy,

I am also on flagyl

it does that. I flet awful while on it at the beginning.

It was prescribed just a few times a week? I take it daily.

The other thing is yes allergies impact greatly. I was cleared onf

many allergies using Naet( naet.com).

It has worked well for me.

Getting a good practitioner I think is really important

Let me know if I canhelp

Marge

>

> Kathy,

> Your new flare may be due to the ragweed season. I don't know what

area

> you currently reside in, but ragweed is totally out of control in

the DC

> Metro area. Seasonal allergies always make my RA flare and I

generally

> feel worse. BTW, I am glad the flagyl is working for you. I have a

> feeling that I need to be on that too. I am diabetic and I always

have

> yeast problems even w/out the AP.

>

> Best wishes,

> Mel

>

> rheumatic Herx?

>

> I have taken flagyl for the third time yesterday. The other doses

> were last Tuesday and Thursday @ 500 mg./day, and yesterday. I

just

> came out of a flare that lasted a couple of months, and for the

past

> three weeks I have been feeling pretty good. But this morning, I

> hurt. Its all specific, not an overall bad feeling. Pain in my

> hands, fingers, and a few other specific areas.

>

> My question - could this be a herx from the flagyl?

>

> Kathy

>

>

>

>

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Mel, I sufferred horribly at first. You may want to lower the dose

or skip a day. Rememeber it IS dose related. You made need just a tad

less for now.

Please do benedryl at nightas wellas a proxide bath to detox.It

really helps so much! Email me..I never mind

I just started the flagyl cream today.

Love Marge

> Hey guys,

>

> i know i wrote that i herxed after 2 days of the cocktail. now,

yesterday i fell into a flare that i could not move my left wrist at

all w/out severe pain, my shoulders and neck were in constant pain

and knees have fluid and bottom of both feet hurt terribly. I

continue today though not as bad on the wrist, but it still has fluid

in it. last week, my 2nd week on the cocktail i had increased pain,

but not like this. now today my throat hurts. i take 12 grams of C

a day, plus antibiotics so i doubt that i am sick. no one else i

know is sick. i cannot rule it out completely though.

>

> 2 days after i started the meds, i had severe dizziness, nausea and

cold sweats. they went away a few days later. then last wed i had

them come back again. then thurs i was driving to pick up my son

from daycare and i kept falling asleep behind the wheel. then i felt

the cold sweats and dizziness so bad that I thought that my sugar was

low (i am diabetic). but it wasn't. i was really tired all weekend

too. i am always up long after hubby goes to sleep. but this

weekend i was out for a couple hours before he turned off the tv.

>

> I hope this is a herx, but i don't know and i am so useless right

now that i cannot function to do my day to day things. so if it

isn't a herx i need to do something else. has anyone else had this

experience? if so, was it a herx for you?

>

> any response is appreciated.

>

> thanks,

> mel

>

>

[Guest guest]

E M.................You have now experienced the reason why I believe many

people give up on this treatment after a bit. The two steps forward and one

back is a real pain. Unlike most meds where we expect to take them and feel

better until we are well, this treatment is slow and requires persistant. It

also can give us a really good period and then one morning our joints lest us

know they are still capable of making us unhappy!!

Some people herx and others do not...just the facts of this treatment.

Also even before I was on this treatment I had bad times and really bad

times. It is the nature of this disease, sort of like riding on a roller

coaster,

and no matter if it is weather fronts coming through, stress or just

tiredness, it makes us really grumpy!!! Even though I consider myself in

remission, I occasionally have a joint or two that likes to complain, just

enough to

remind me how fortuntate I am to have stayed with the Minocin.

My daughter now has RA and I have had her on minocin about 8 weeks.

She keeps moaning how she is hurting. I keep telling her to just stick with

the minocin. Next summer she will be eligible for insurance with her company

and if the minocin has not fully kicked in will take her to Dr.S for the

nizoral/minocin combo. Its harder on ones body but does speed the minocin

process up. At least it did for me. Best of wishes for better health this

coming

year......Martha

[Guest guest]

For information on the Jarisch Herxheimer reaction, check out

www.rheumtic.org/faq.htm

rheumatic Herx?

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>

> Hi all,

> I am new and seeking counsel. I was diagnosed with RA by Dr. D

> Trentham and began Minocin 12/16. 100mg bid. First 2 days I felt

> horrible, nauseated, migraine headache... then I seemed to be pretty

> good, energy coming back, hair has quit falling out even the pain

> was tolerable. Then a couple of nights ago the butterfly rash

> appeared again and the pain has rolled in like a freight train. I

> am not sleeping at night again and even the hydrocodone is not

> touching this. I am more swollen now then ever. I never got the

> total " balloon " swelling, just enough to not wear rings or tight

> fitting pants over my knees. This is part of what delayed the Dx.

> Dr. T really downplayed the Hx stating the Minocin was superior and

> didn't really cause it but I don't understand what is happening if

> that is the case. I was feeling like the illness was " backing out "

> the same way it came in. I noticed the pain and swelling beginning

> back in June and left work (I am a pharmacist with 12 hrs shifts)

> the beginning of Nov because of the pain, fatigue, brain fog.

> Any input? I did get the peroxide bath recipe, thanks, I'm going to

> try it later tonight. Any other thoughts, input?

> I appreciate your help.

> EM

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[Guest guest]

Hello everyone:

This is Roni, I have SD and wondering if anyone has experienced a herx when your

anticenemere numbers come back really low? At the last blood test, my

anticenemere numbers were 297 and my ANA at 1,200. My doctor switched me from

flagyll to doxy and now I'm experiencing that horrible itch that comes with SD

and swollen hands.

Has anyone out there with SD experienced a herx with numbers this low?

Roni

[Guest guest]

yes.

Sometimes more is not better, and the bugs get hammered better with a few drugs,

or the drugs that are left just kick in.

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From: ecckwalk <ecckwalk@...>

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 5:04:30 PM

Subject: [ ] Herx?

I understand that herxing occurs after the start of a new medication but has

anyone ever experienced a herx after stopping just a few meds while still on

some others?

Elaine

[Guest guest]

Wow, thank you.  We just can't ever predict what's going to happen next can

we?

Elaine

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From: Natasha Moiseyev <nmoiseyev@...>

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 5:08:54 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Herx?

 

yes.

Sometimes more is not better, and the bugs get hammered better with a few drugs,

or the drugs that are left just kick in.

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From: ecckwalk <ecckwalk@...>

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 5:04:30 PM

Subject: [ ] Herx?

I understand that herxing occurs after the start of a new medication but has

anyone ever experienced a herx after stopping just a few meds while still on

some others?

Elaine

[Guest guest]

My son(9) has been on rifampin and zith for 14 months.

 We had to stop the zith for a few days because he had the 24 hour stomach

flu

that was going around, and the zith is so rough on the stomach. His pediatrician

suggested we stop it for a few days.

 His 24 hr bug  turned into a month long flu. He was having vomitting and

nausea, headache, intermittent rashes, and horrific ocd and separation anxiety,

that have still not let up .

I'm sorry you are going through this as well!!!

Judy

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From: ecckwalk <ecckwalk@...>

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 8:04:30 PM

Subject: [ ] Herx?

 

I understand that herxing occurs after the start of a new medication but has

anyone ever experienced a herx after stopping just a few meds while still on

some others?

Elaine

[Guest guest]

Kari,

That is one of the hardest questions I ask myself somedays. Is it Lyme

or something else? When do we call the doctor, should we go to the ER,

when do we think about switching meds, how long do we hold out to see if

it improves, is it a herx, the flu, overdoing it???? Is the Bartonella

back, should it be treated, is the babesia again or the mycoplasma???

The unknowns are enough to drive me batty sometimes. My Lyme friends

help keep me in check. They don't always have the answers but sometimes

can help me focus and decide what is the best course to take.

These lists are wonderful for that.

Hugs,

On 12/3/2010 7:43 AM, endomr wrote:

>

> Every time my son got a flu, something else changed in his body and he

> had a new symptoms. So like one time he had the flu, he developed

> tachycardia, another time his stomach stopped working, and another

> time his personality changed completely. It was explained that the flu

> weakened the immune system and allowed the buggers to move forward and

> be more destructive. We assumed it was babesia that made him homebound

> in April. It was like having the bad flu for months. Once in

> treatment, it slowly got better. Oh, and Nate has two viruses we think

> were impacting his health. He has been taking an antiviral for 4

> months. I often wonder if that is what helped. We are treating the

> mycoplasms, too.

> So is it a flu, or the new face of Lyme in his body?

> Kari

>

>