Re: Re: where do you go, what do you do when you start to think you can't do this alone?

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Here's an idea. I recently discovered Skype. Skype is an online service like a chat service which allows you to video chat with others. It's really great. My friend who lives in CT and I have been using it and it's almost like we're right there with each other. Maybe some of us would be willing to meet with others on here via Skype and have a mini meeting or something. I'd love someone to read through the book with and discuss the principles with. If anyone females on here would like to do this, let me know. I wish there was a way for more than one person to chat but I don't know of any.SharonSubject: Re: where do you go, what do you do when you start to think you can't do this alone?To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 7:31 PM

Mikey - are you aware that there are options like one-on-one coaching to get you started? Yes this isn't free, but several members here have used the services of Gillian (group owner & IE coach) and I'm sure there are other options - even a teleseminar which is a small group and lead by trained IE people. If you can't find this information in the Files or Link section of this group, go to -

http://www.healthie routcomes. com/

which is Gillian's web site and see if anything 'fits' you.

What your post made me think is that perhaps you are 'between the boat and the pier' about non-dieting and dieting? Most people come to want non-dieting because dieting becomes just too horrible to even consider any more. Its a huge change at first, but if you can be gentle and non-demanding with yourself, I think you will find that you can and will start making small accomplishments that build into larger ones. Doubting is very normal for many of us! But when one thinks about it, has dieting been all the fabulous promises it made? And if so, for more than the "In a few weeks!" that you believed was all you had to do? Too much carrot on a stick for me ;-)

Best to you - Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> i'm trying my friends. i really am. okay, sometimes i could def. be trying harder. but still i'm trying. but the binging wont stop and it's gotten worse than ever. the voice in my head saying"you're going to have to restrict to repair the damage" is getting louder and louder. i never know what is going to happen from day to day. i feel like i'm spinning out of control. and now i'm thinking, maybe i can't do this on my own. maybe my issues are too complex for my little mind solve.

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I hear such pain from you right now....and obviously, somehow you need to put it in the proper prospective.  If you can't find a counselor, how about your church or a church?  They would not charge any money or would have resources for you.  I will say a little prayer for you, and I'm thinking about you.  You are not doomed!

In the meantime, I don't know all the extenuating circumstances of your situation, but I want you to know, 1) we are behind you here, 2) there is always hope!, 3) you have more choices over your eating then you are giving yourself credit for - you deserve the best!

I understand the fear of finally being able to eat foods you love, and wondering if you will never stop after being restricted so long.  I am hearing that something additional might be going on for you, that this might be a great safety valve for you, or a great release of some sort.  But even if things are bad in our lives and we see ourselves in a pit, we still have greater choices and freedom than we might realize.  There are many areas of our lives where we are able to make choices that serve us (away from food).  Take a look at those areas of your life for strength.  Inside of us all I believe we have the ability to understand, and the determination, strength and responsibility to our own being to keep ourselves in check (and I don't mean restrict!) and make the right choices in all areas of our lives, but I know sometimes that can get clouded, and so we need to find clarity.  Hang in there!  This group has really helped me to find more clarity in my life, and I'm still moving towards that, but I like that I'm moving forward.

Hugs,

 

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> i'm trying my friends. i really am. okay, sometimes i could def. be trying harder. but still i'm trying. but the binging wont stop and it's gotten worse than ever. the voice in my head saying " you're going to have to restrict to repair the damage " is getting louder and louder. i never know what is going to happen from day to day. i feel like i'm spinning out of control. and now i'm thinking, maybe i can't do this on my own. maybe my issues are too complex for my little mind solve.

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thank you all so much. hat if you think you know the reason behind your issues but it is something/someone you can't even imagine changing? i wish i could see a counselor but is that is not an option for me right now. i feel like i'm doomed.

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> I really think kindness is the key.

 

I agree 100%!!  When I started asking " how can I be kind to myself right now? " I had some really powerful responses.  That was the start of a remarkable chain (well at least to me LOL) of realizations, not the least of which is that to have exactly what you want, and exactly the amount you want, is a completely indulgent experience even if it is a salad or bowl of broccoli ... and that eating something that makes me feel icky afterwards is not an indulgence after all!

 

Now, if I can just figure out how to remember and want to be kind to myself consistently LOL....

 

Mikki

 

 

 

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i like that SO FAR -- great idea! i will try it the next time i have Bad Body Fever/Fat Attack.thanks!

 

It really takes a lot of practice to shut that voice up in your head! I have been doing IE for 8 months. Even today when I was putting on my shorts that voice in my head was chanting " you gotta lose weight, you gotta lose weight " . I remembered some advice from a Martha Beck column in the June issue of Oprah Magazine that said to remember the acronym " So Far " . This is a summary:

S= STOP - Whenever you are anxious, just freeze. Stop doing anything.

O= OPEN - Relax the physiology of your fight or flight response. Open your muscles by stretching, open your lungs with deep breaths, open your mouth with a yawn.

F= FORGIVE - This is the most important step. Forgive yourself and your body for all supposed imperfections.

A= ACCEPT - If you've gotten to the point where you're able to forgive yourself, it's time to drop all resistance to things as they are right now.

R= RENEW - From a place of stillness, openness, forgiveness, and acceptance, you can renew your commitment to IE (okay I put in IE!)

A relaxed human eats healthy foods in healthy portions, and stays active because it's more fun than lethargy.

She says " The result? Healthy weight, with little effort. It's that simple " .

Hope this helps-

Kimberlie

IE since 11/08

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> > > i'm trying my friends. i really am. okay, sometimes i could def. be trying harder. but still i'm trying. but the binging wont stop and it's gotten worse than ever. the voice in my head saying " you're going to have to restrict to repair the damage " is getting louder and louder. i never know what is going to happen from day to day. i feel like i'm spinning out of control. and now i'm thinking, maybe i can't do this on my own. maybe my issues are too complex for my little mind solve.

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> > thank you all so much. hat if you think you know the reason behind your issues but it is something/someone you can't even imagine changing? i wish i could see a counselor but is that is not an option for me right now. i feel like i'm doomed.

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-- Abigail C. Wolfson, RN, MS, CPNP

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Kimberlie, I love that!  I've started my own " words of wisdom from IE " document like Freya (I think it was Freya) mentioned and that is going right at the top!!

 

(also , for anyone who doesn't know, Google has a program " Google docs " where you can upload or create documents and get to them from any computer - that's where I'm keeping my Words of Wisdom so I can get to them from work or home

 

Mikki