Guest guest Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Hi , Welcome to the list. There is a section on pecanbread.com on the science behind the diet with an easy explanation for kids with comic book-like drawings that may help him to understand why he needs to be on this diet. (http://www.pecanbread.com/scdscience.html) As far as getting him to want to follow the diet or to at least not activiely seek to cheat on the diet, I would read that explanation to him and explain to him the fact that the only way he will get better is to follow the diet. My son is also 7 and does understand that he needs to not cheat. He won't eat anything anyone serves him unless he knows that I have said that it is okay. (He will eat raw fruits and veggies because he knows he is allowed to have to have those.) Even my 5 year old will not eat food that is not allowed. We have talked about the fact that there is the possibility that their food allergies and intestinal issues will go away if they stay on the diet for long enough (I have never given them a real time frame). I do think it will be harder for a child who is used to eating a " normal " diet, but I think it is possible. He has seen how sick you have been. You can talk to him about how much better you feel now that you have been following SCD. I think the fact that both of you are on the SCD will help him in social situations because you will be eating what he is eating. Do you think the school is likely to be understanding? Perhaps providing them with a copy of the book might be useful. I know one thing that really excited my boys was meeting another child on the diet. It made them feel like they weren't the only ones who didn't get to eat candy, etc. Jody mom to -5 and -7 SCD 17 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 > Do you have tips on how to prepare for the diet, as I know > he must 'own' it for himself? To be honest, I took the easy way for Liam. Since I knew how hard it was to stick to the intro diet for me, I knew it would be a nightmare for a 2 year old. I just started replacing all his regular foods with legal foods. Since Liam normally ate GF waffles or pancakes and fruit for breakfast, I just replaced it with nutbutter pancakes. I made a double batch of " 's Mother's Chicken " from Lucy's Kitchen cookbook for lunches. These come out similar to chicken nuggets and taste great cold or hot. Because I had been on SCD before Liam started it, all our dinners were legal already. The biggest difference between an adult on SCD and having a child on SCD is the need for legal snacks always on hand. Make double batches on legal cookies and freeze. Keep a store of carrot and celery sticks. Once he starts feeling better, I'm sure he'll want to stay on it. Also how do folks cope with social > situations such as friends in for meals or invited for meals at their > houses? Having friends over has been on big deal. There are plenty of yummy SCD recipes. The hardest part of entertaining would be dessert/pudding. This is the only time I serve something for Liam and me and buy something for everyone else. As for at other people's houses, I just bring all our own food and enjoy the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Hi , the fact that you are an experienced SCD-er gives you a tremendous headstart. I understand your need to make things as easy as possible for your 7-year-old. What will help you, is the simple fact that your son is relatively young. His body is much smaller and all changes will happen faster. Detox will be over faster. Getting used to the new foods will happen faster. Marjan Netherlands Mom to Nick, asd, 7, SCD since jan 18 2003 , 9 Finn, 4 http://specificfoodsforspecificminds.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 My son is 4 and has UC. We have only been SCD for 3 wks but before SCD he could not tolerate eggs, dairy, citrus, soy, berries or peanuts or a lot of corn. When he was first diagnosed, he didn't tolerate anything - fruits, veggies, only potatoes and chicken. So, I really sympathize with you. If you want any support and want to email me directly, I will help any way I can. I talked with Lucy at length, too, which helped - from lucyskitchenshop.com She suffered with UC for years and all the drugs didn't help her, but she's been 11 years symptom free on SCD. She helped me with the food concerns I had. After 3 wks scd, still has some blood in his stool (and I've been told that for this condition, the blood is the last sypmtom to go) but he has a lot less frequency (one, maybe 2 a day or every other day), better consistency, no cramping, no accidents and he now eats cheese with no problems. I haven't tried yogurt yet, but if he can tolerate cheese, I'm not concerned about the yogurt. And he eats a ton of fruit with no problems. Anyway, I will help any way I can or if you just want some support. handled the transition to this diet remarkably wel land I put it off over a year because I thought it would be too hard. It truly hasn't been hard at all on him - since he was already used to a ton of food restrictions anyway, he was just fine. Let me know if I can help. Robbie robbie @ littlebritchesboutique.com Hello I'm new Hello My name is and I'm 42. I've been on the SCD for 14 months and am making progress with my symptoms of colitis (24 yrs) and chronic fatigue syndrome (11 yrs) diminishing. I've been a member of the scd yahoo group for a while. My son is just 7 and has been having worsening colitis for at least 4 yrs and his behaviour has been increasingly of the ADHD type. As the SCD is working for me, we feel it is the way forward for him and plan to start the SCD for him in a couple of weeks' time. I have felt really overwhelmed at this prospect, although I know it is right as we have prayed so long. But my energy levels have improved enough that I can think about it more. I've been reading through your site and downloading recipes but I have lots of questions and would really value anyone's advice. It has been a hard road for me which makes me concerned for , although I know his symtoms are not as bad as mine (he has loads of energy although he gets overtired, whereas I have been largely housebound for 11 years). The 1st 9 months of the SCD put me in a bad relapse of the CFS and colitis and I wasn't able to do much at all around the house. I lost a lot of weight but am slowly regaining some now. is rather thin anyway and so I'm concerned for him from this point of view. At the moment he has a little of the SCD baked goods, and he tolerates 1 tbs of the dripped sheep's yogurt (no more) but he mainly has a 'normal' diet, so really quite a bit of carbohydrate still. He has been completely intolerant of fruit and dairy for 2-3 years. I'm unsure whether to start him off on the SCD including the yogurt right from the start? Also, as he doesn't tolerate egg, except in the baked goods, I don't know whether to give him this at the start as I'm struggling for enough meal ideas? (My own diet has been really restricted - for the 1st 4 months I could only eat poultry, fish, almonds. Then it took me 6 months to build up to have cooked green beans, a little carrot. The last 2 months I have begun to tolerate the chicken soup and red meat, courgette (zucchinni), asparagus and aubergine.) Do you have tips on how to prepare for the diet, as I know he must 'own' it for himself? Also how do folks cope with social situations such as friends in for meals or invited for meals at their houses? I have the support of a nutritionist but it's a bit of a lonely road, as I'm sure you must all know. I really appreciate this opportunity to speak to others in a similar situation. I look forward very much to hearing from you. Thank you W Wilts, England For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 > , > > You saved me from having to post this question on the board... Do I have to > start with the intro diet for my 3 year old. > > Thanks Again. > > Darla It's not the recommended way to start, but it has worked for us. From what I've read, if after starting the diet without the intro, you still have no improvements, you need to do the intro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 If you want any support and want to email me directly, I will help any way I can. Thank you so much. It's encouraging how quickly your son is responding. Like you I've put this off, but now is the time to go for it as we have 6 weeks off school to cope with die-off symptoms. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Hi Jody Thank you for your welcome. I'm so touched that you and others responded so quickly. Where would we be without the internet?? I can't believe the amount of traffic you have on this site. I'm wearing my printer out with printing from your excellent site. I hadn't got as far as the science bit - it'll really help. I showed him the photos of your boys eating SCD food - he liked that, thanks - it's a great idea as so many of us are isolated. Funnily enough I had been thinking about drawing a big picture, with doing bits too. He's quite into battles (boys!) and so I thought we could draw up our 'battle plan' - starve the baddies, kill 'em off and feed the good guys - and do a collage of pictures of the good types of food we'll be able to have. Maybe the concept of conquering the baddies will help him not to cheat. We're going to buy him the Playmobil Viking longship which he's wanted for ages. Thanks - I think it's wise not to give a time frame, though I might say a minimum 2 years. School are, thankfully, very supportive. I will try to contact someone else in the UK from your list of contacts. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 > Hi Marjan thank you for helping me to think positively! W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Hi Thank you so much for your advice. I will look up the recipes. Where is the recipe for waffles? Yes, I'm filling up the freezer making double batches - in fact I've ordered a bigger fridge freezer for the kitchen and a bigger freezer than the one in our garage! With us both on the SCD it's full of meat and the veg keeps much longer too. I haven't been able to source an organic butcher to make up sausages and so have just bought a sausage stuffer (I never dreamt I'd make my own sausages!) - can't wait to have a go, so that should help. Thanks for tips on the social thing. It's the picky carbo-addict friends that'll be the challenge - this will be good for developing assertiveness skills! W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 , I am glad to hear that you are finding the website useful. I think your idea of getting him to help you make a " battle plan " sounds like a great one. Jody mom to -5 and -7 SCD 17 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 > Hi > > Thank you so much for your advice. I will look up the recipes. > Where is the recipe for waffles? The best one I've tried so far is http://pecanbread.com/recipes/midasgoldpancakes.html My only complaint is that the single batch makes only 3 circular waffles, but the taste and texture is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 I am amazed, too - the intro diet was the hardest because my son doesn't like soup. He did ok for the first day, but then when I wanted to give him soup again the next day, it was a test of patience to get him to eat it. LOL But, you are already experienced with SCD so you will be fine. The hardest transition has been for ME and trying to keep enough fresh food in this house and trying to be creative with meals. I'm burnt out on chicken nuggets and burger patties! But, yesterday was the best day yet for - no blood and loosly formed stools! Yea! I hope this is a trend that continues! He no longer has the 1st thing in the morning emergency trip to the bathroom either - even though his stools have still had some blood and have been looser consistency, he goes during the day at some point like most people, and only once most days. Really, this diet has been the only thing he has responded to. Robbie SCD 3wks Re: Hello I'm new If you want any support and want to email me directly, I will help any way I can. Thank you so much. It's encouraging how quickly your son is responding. Like you I've put this off, but now is the time to go for it as we have 6 weeks off school to cope with die-off symptoms. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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