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I know exactly what you mean by the doctors looking at you like

you're from another planet!!! We've had similar experiences with my

daughter (who's now 6). When she was a newborn we bottle fed

her with great difficulty. She was in and out of the hospital with

lots of " experts " (and lots of tests) trying to figure out why she

had severe feeding problems. At two months old, she was sent home

with an NG tube until at 4 months she had a G-tube put in. During

this time she also had problems with formula tolerance. She was

treated for reflux even though they weren't really sure that was the

problem. I think they didn't know what else to do and they wanted us

to feel like they were doing something for her. We were fortunate

because when she was older she could drink from a cup and she would

eat baby food, then table foods so she had her G-tube removed. But

then she started coughing and gagging with certain foods (seems like

it was the textures of the food). She would cough so hard that she

would sometimes vomit. They did a swallow test which was normal. She

seemed to outgrow that problem too except that lately I've noticed

her coughing more when she eats. Makes me wonder what's going on.

During this time we certainly had our share of " medical professional "

who thought we were absolutely nuts!! So I can relate to that.

It wasn't until started having cyclic vomiting at age 4 that

the possibility of " mito or metabolic " was mentioned. She's been

going through testing for over a year now but we still don't know

anything. Very frustrating. We have an appt. next week with the

metabolic specialist she starting seeing in June. Then she has an

appt. with Dr. Cohen on Oct. 29th. Hopefully we'll find out something

soon.

Sorry for the long story. Just wanted to let you know you're not

alone. And I know for a fact that a lot of others on the list can

relate to your treatment from the doctors and nurses. You must have

had at least one dr. who took you seriously since a mito diagnosis is

being pursued. Hang in there.

Sharon

> My 14 month old daughter has been in and out of the hospital all

her

> life. We still don't have a diagnosis but they are leaning towards

a

> Complex IV deficiency. She is relatively normal but is delayed in

her

> motor development. She is not walking yet but is crawling and

pulling

> herself up on the furniture. Her feeding and speech is probably the

> most delayed. She has no teeth and is still on pureed foods. She ca

> not handle lumps and gags. Drinking is another issue. She will not

> drink anything from a bottle unless she is sleeping. Is there

anyone

> out there with a similiar dilemma? Everytime we go to the hospital

> and explain this to the doctors and nurses they look at us like we

> are from another planet.

>

> Also would like to hear/share stories of other children with

Complex

> IV deficiencies.

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Have you had a ph probe study done to rule out reflux? When you mentioned

that she would only drink from a bottle when asleep, that reminded me of a

discussion on a reflux board I was a member of. One of the tricks parents

used to feed their reflux babies was to offer the bottle when they were

sleeping. Just a thought. I hope you get some answers soon.

from Maine

Mom to Johanna (7), Jareb (3), and Jessalyn (12 mos) w/unspec. mito, global

delays, vision impaired, g-tube, fundo, hypotonia and severe neurological/GI

issues

Help!

> My 14 month old daughter has been in and out of the hospital all her

> life. We still don't have a diagnosis but they are leaning towards a

> Complex IV deficiency. She is relatively normal but is delayed in her

> motor development. She is not walking yet but is crawling and pulling

> herself up on the furniture. Her feeding and speech is probably the

> most delayed. She has no teeth and is still on pureed foods. She can

> not handle lumps and gags. Drinking is another issue. She will not

> drink anything from a bottle unless she is sleeping. Is there anyone

> out there with a similiar dilemma? Everytime we go to the hospital

> and explain this to the doctors and nurses they look at us like we

> are from another planet.

>

> Also would like to hear/share stories of other children with Complex

> IV deficiencies.

>

>

>

>

> Please contact mito-owner with any problems or questions.

>

>

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I tried to bring up the article and when I got to Genetic Doctors it

says it contains information that can't be used. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Kathy

Grandma to Audrey, 14mos

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Don't know why that would be the case. I will look into it for you. At present I am experienceing world wide web or ISP based problems of some kind, so I can't access anything other then emails myself!!

Regards,

Re: Help!

I tried to bring up the article and when I got to Genetic Doctors itsays it contains information that can't be used. Any suggestions?ThanksKathyGrandma to Audrey, 14mosPlease contact mito-owner with any problems or questions.

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Marla, does the doctor that did the psyc eval know all the past therapy

you've had addressing this? I too was told to lose 28# prior to surgery.

It sounded like going to the moon! I knew that no way would I be able to do

that....if so, then why did I need the surgery? Well, after 11 months I

lost 7#, but it didn't stop the surgery. The reason they recommend 10% is

to make the surgery easier and safer....more room to move around inside.

Once I understood this, I had more motivation to lose some.

I totally relate to your childhood and how it has affected you. Your post

is exactly what I would have written about myself. I had 11 years of

therapy, that actually began as a weight loss tool. Learned a lot about

myself, and changed a lot of coping skills, but certainly didn't affect my

weight. That's where my question comes in.....does this doctor know the

therapy you've already had? If so, I don't understand his opinion that you

need therapy. My psyc eval was done by a psychiatrist that I've been seeing

for almost 10 years (thankfully I'm over the hard part of therapy, and now

only see him every 4 months), and when I told him, he thought it was a great

idea, and supported me totally. He knows what I've done to try to lose

weight...and keep it off. The weight clinic wanted to send me to their

doctor, but I told them I already had one that knew me and could do it. It

didn't need to be a specific doctor. This eval is what the insurance

company wants. Do some research about your specific situation and find out

if you can use " your " doctor if you still have access to him/her. Or

educate the current doctor as to past therapy. Good luck!

Joan

LAP RNY 11/18/03

Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA

282pre-op/275surg/236/140

Well that is not my reason for writing. My problem,...the doctor

that did my psy eval, says I need therapy to deal with my reason for

over eating. And he says I need to loose 10% of my body weight

before surgery. My weight now is 261, so 10% would be 26 lbs. Have

you folks been told the same? I really am new at this, so please

give me feed back. A little background. As a child, I was a victim

of sexual abuse. He thinks this is my reason for over eating. Yes,

it has some to do with the problem. I have been through years of

therapy and I still have an eating disorder. When he told me they

would not approve the surgery until I went through therapy and lost

26 lbs, first I cried then I ate and gained 10 lbs in 2 weeks! Any

information would be greatly appreciated. As a result of the abuse,

I also have PTSD. I am no longer a victim, but a survivor, so I know

I can survivor this also.

Marla Sloan

Pre-op

Dr. Murr TGH

261/135

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Too bad it's not the other way around. I could gain 10 percent in 3

days or less!!!lol

I am sitting here waiting on my mom to pick my kids up so I can go

to doctor!! Made my list!! I heard the doctor looked good too! That

makes it so much harder!! LOL

> Marla, does the doctor that did the psyc eval know all the past

therapy

> you've had addressing this? I too was told to lose 28# prior to

surgery.

> It sounded like going to the moon! I knew that no way would I be

able to do

> that....if so, then why did I need the surgery? Well, after 11

months I

> lost 7#, but it didn't stop the surgery. The reason they

recommend 10% is

> to make the surgery easier and safer....more room to move around

inside.

> Once I understood this, I had more motivation to lose some.

>

> I totally relate to your childhood and how it has affected you.

Your post

> is exactly what I would have written about myself. I had 11 years

of

> therapy, that actually began as a weight loss tool. Learned a lot

about

> myself, and changed a lot of coping skills, but certainly didn't

affect my

> weight. That's where my question comes in.....does this doctor

know the

> therapy you've already had? If so, I don't understand his opinion

that you

> need therapy. My psyc eval was done by a psychiatrist that I've

been seeing

> for almost 10 years (thankfully I'm over the hard part of therapy,

and now

> only see him every 4 months), and when I told him, he thought it

was a great

> idea, and supported me totally. He knows what I've done to try to

lose

> weight...and keep it off. The weight clinic wanted to send me to

their

> doctor, but I told them I already had one that knew me and could

do it. It

> didn't need to be a specific doctor. This eval is what the

insurance

> company wants. Do some research about your specific situation and

find out

> if you can use " your " doctor if you still have access to him/her.

Or

> educate the current doctor as to past therapy. Good luck!

>

> Joan

> LAP RNY 11/18/03

> Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA

> 282pre-op/275surg/236/140

> Well that is not my reason for writing. My problem,...the doctor

> that did my psy eval, says I need therapy to deal with my reason

for

> over eating. And he says I need to loose 10% of my body weight

> before surgery. My weight now is 261, so 10% would be 26 lbs.

Have

> you folks been told the same? I really am new at this, so please

> give me feed back. A little background. As a child, I was a

victim

> of sexual abuse. He thinks this is my reason for over eating.

Yes,

> it has some to do with the problem. I have been through years of

> therapy and I still have an eating disorder. When he told me they

> would not approve the surgery until I went through therapy and

lost

> 26 lbs, first I cried then I ate and gained 10 lbs in 2 weeks!

Any

> information would be greatly appreciated. As a result of the

abuse,

> I also have PTSD. I am no longer a victim, but a survivor, so I

know

> I can survivor this also.

>

> Marla Sloan

> Pre-op

> Dr. Murr TGH

> 261/135

>

>

>

>

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