Guest guest Posted February 15, 2000 Report Share Posted February 15, 2000 Hi -- In response to your question, I have a mostly vascular component with some blemishes (though I don't get pimples--just those crazy little bumps) and virtually no ocular symptoms. However, on occasion, I do get watery, burning eyes and my eyelashes tend to drop off fairly frequently. These symptoms are extremely mild. I don't have any of the other symptoms ocular sufferers have described. About stress and illness--stress definitely makes my rosacea worse, I flush more easily, have more inflammation, and more blemishes. Physiologically, stress can contribute to disease in many ways. Primarily, the substances that are released into the body during times of stress can end up producing free radicals which are basically like leftover components of biochemical reactions that can be toxic to the body. If your eliminative functions are being overloaded by these free radicals because of inordinately high or prolonged stress, these toxic substances can build up in the body. That's why antioxidants are so key to maintaining good health--they scavange free radicals. There's also a connection b/n stress and immune function--the higher the stress levels, the more taxed your immune system becomes. With some of your basic frontline defenses compromised like this, you can become susceptible to infections you are normally able to fight off. Plus, when you feel psychologically and emotionally stressed, your behaviors often change to the detriment of your health--i.e., you don't sleep as much or as well, you don't eat right, you stop exercising. All these factors of course contribute to your body's response to the stressor itself. It's a complicated dance of psychology and physiology, and I think researchers and clinicians are just now beginning to chip away at uncovering the underlying mechanisms. It's quite fascinating, though. --- Spencer wrote: > I was really interested in the posts which have > mentioned rosacea appearing after illnesses. I > can't remember whether my rosacea was preceded by an > illness......but I do know when I got first symptoms > I tried product after product to counter it which > only served to worsen it. With the eyes > interestingly enough, the occular symptoms came when > I tried lots of different mascaras, one after the > other, over a short period (will I ever learn!?) and > the problem surfaced. However, with the regards the > illness theory....I am not proud of this but about 2 > weeks before the occular symptoms appeared, I took a > morning after pill, after an accident..and I got so, > so sick from it....I vomited profusely and at the > time, felt like I was dying...it was horrible...I > was really doubled in pain...this subsided after a > few days and then immediately I developed flu-like > symptoms which lasted two weeks or more....I lost > some weight and did not feel right for quite a while > after. Well, this is when the occular symptoms > manifested..maybe, it attacks in some way, when the > body's defences are down...dunno! > I agree with the post that said that this is more > than one disease and takes many different > forms......my redness abated, then the eye problem > started....I remember being very unhappy because the > skin redness seemed under control and then the eyes > started.....it was a real headache that one thing > started just as another thing seemed to be calming > down. This ties in with the theory put forward by > Joy that those with the vascular problems rarely > suffer the eye problems. > Maybe we should do a bit of detective work.....how > many of us with the vascular (redness problem) > exacerbated by heat, do not suffer with the eye > problem, and how many, like me, whose rosacea has > been calmer in terms of redness, suffer the eye > symptoms...( I think that's right isn't it, Joy?) > It may be worth running a poll and giving dr. Nase > the results...who knows!! > Just a thought.......that was very > interesting...Joy......how did you come up with > that? > > PPS How many of you think that stress makes this > disease 100% worse or could even be responsible for > the disease.....I have heard that stress affects our > bodies so much...maybe, stress or the stress illness > or shock, trauma to the body...is responsible for > some sort of chain reaction in our bodies and the > rosacea appears........I'm sure someone told me that > she got rosacea after her young best friend died, > leaving a husband and several children behind. > Maybe after such trauma, the rosacea appears and > then manifest itself every time the body is subject > to something it now finds stressful! Am I talking a > load of rubbish again! Just another thought!! > > Ps Better go and do some work now, I think....why is > this group so interesting!!!! > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > shelley@... > ICQ #22429611 0151 643 > 9983 > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before > posting to the whole group. > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroups.com Home: > /group/rosacea-support/ > - Simplifying group > communications > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2000 Report Share Posted February 15, 2000 In a message dated 2/15/00 8:29:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, jeclary@... writes: << Maybe we should do a bit of detective work.....how many of us with the vascular (redness problem) exacerbated by heat, do not suffer with the eye problem, and how many, like me, whose rosacea has been calmer in terms of redness, suffer the eye symptoms...( I think that's right isn't it, Joy?) It may be worth running a poll and giving dr. Nase the results...who knows!! >> >> hi, i'm the redness/heat category, no eye symptoms. cenia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2000 Report Share Posted February 15, 2000 In a message dated 2/15/00 10:46:38 AM Pacific Standard Time shelley@... ( Spencer) writes: >This ties in with the theory put forward by Joy that those with the vascular >problems rarely suffer the eye problems. I didnt catch the post from Joy yet, but I have a vascular component to this. I think we all do to some extent. From what I can tell from ALOT of reading and researching, rosacea is a vascular disorder. BTW, I have the ocular component. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2000 Report Share Posted February 15, 2000 For info for 's poll, my rosacea is primarily flushing. Mine gets better in winter and worse in the summer heat and humidity. I have not yet had eye problems (knock on wood) and I truly hope I never do because I already wear contacts for near-sightedness. My heart goes out to everyone who has to struggle with eye discomfort on a daily basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2000 Report Share Posted February 15, 2000 I have no eye problems, mainly blushing from anxiety in large groups and I suppose heat can do it, but I've mostly noticed the anxiety thing as my main trigger. Being out in wind and sun does it too. Good luck with your interview! Try to not worry about it. Worried anxious thoughts breed anxiety and fear! I believe if I could calm my thoughts in large groups I wouldn't get red. I'm not there yet, but maybe someday. P.S. I hope I'm directing this to the right person, I'm a little fast in my deleting tonite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2000 Report Share Posted February 15, 2000 <<Maybe we should do a bit of detective work.....how many of us with the vascular (redness problem) exacerbated by heat, do not suffer with the eye problem, and how many, like me, whose rosacea has been calmer in terms of redness, suffer the eye symptoms...( I think that's right isn't it, Joy?) It may be worth running a poll and giving dr. Nase the results...who knows!! >> <<Hi -- In response to your question, I have a mostly vascular component with some blemishes (though I don't get pimples--just those crazy little bumps) and virtually no ocular symptoms. However, on occasion, I do get watery, burning eyes and my eyelashes tend to drop off fairly frequently. These symptoms are extremely mild. I don't have any of the other symptoms ocular sufferers have described. >> ===== My facial symptoms are similar to 's, and I too have very few eye problems -- some telangiectic vessels behind the eyelids, a bit of scaling around the eyelashes which is easily removed with a washcloth or QTip, and eyelashes which drop off, then seem to regenerate. One bit of commonality with - my own symptoms, flushing and redness, initially flared up as I was recovering from a prolonged illness -- bronchitis and upper respiratory infections. Everything but the flushing went away; I still have flushing now, four years later. I had been having some redness problems long before the illness, but they became extreme just after the illness. Don't know if there is a connection. However I *am* seeing a pattern of few reported eye problems in flushers, after having read these messages for a while. --Jim Re: illness > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2000 Report Share Posted February 15, 2000 Like Cenia, I'm a blusher/flusher and have almost no ocular symptoms. Matija aestas6-@... wrote: original article:/group/rosacea-support/?start=12 865 > In a message dated 2/15/00 8:29:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, jeclary@... > writes: > > << Maybe we should do a bit of detective work.....how many of us with the > vascular (redness problem) exacerbated by heat, do not suffer with the eye > problem, and how many, like me, whose rosacea has been calmer in terms of > redness, suffer the eye symptoms...( I think that's right isn't it, Joy?) It > may be worth running a poll and giving dr. Nase the results...who knows!! > >> > >> > hi, i'm the redness/heat category, no eye symptoms. > cenia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2000 Report Share Posted February 15, 2000 me, too! redness problem, exacerbated by heat, but no eye problems. meg aestas6-@... wrote: original article:/group/rosacea-support/?start=12 865 > In a message dated 2/15/00 8:29:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, jeclary@... > writes: > > << Maybe we should do a bit of detective work.....how many of us with the > vascular (redness problem) exacerbated by heat, do not suffer with the eye > problem, and how many, like me, whose rosacea has been calmer in terms of > redness, suffer the eye symptoms...( I think that's right isn't it, Joy?) It > may be worth running a poll and giving dr. Nase the results...who knows!! > >> > >> > hi, i'm the redness/heat category, no eye symptoms. > cenia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2000 Report Share Posted February 15, 2000 Me too, Redness/No eye problems. Francisco >From: Aestas66@... >To: jeclary@..., rosacea-supportegroups >Subject: Re: illness >Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:36:52 EST > > >In a message dated 2/15/00 8:29:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, >jeclary@... >writes: > ><< Maybe we should do a bit of detective work.....how many of us with the > vascular (redness problem) exacerbated by heat, do not suffer with the >eye > problem, and how many, like me, whose rosacea has been calmer in terms of > redness, suffer the eye symptoms...( I think that's right isn't it, Joy?) >It > may be worth running a poll and giving dr. Nase the results...who knows!! > >> > >> >hi, i'm the redness/heat category, no eye symptoms. >cenia > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole >group. >see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >eGroups.com home: /group/rosacea-support > - Simplifying group communications > > > ______________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2000 Report Share Posted February 16, 2000 hi I'm not sure if I have eye problems or not. Sometimes they're red, but I don't know if that's due to allergies. I am able to wear contacts, however. Chris Re: illness > For info for 's poll, my rosacea is primarily flushing. Mine gets > better in winter and worse in the summer heat and humidity. I have not yet > had eye problems (knock on wood) and I truly hope I never do because I > already wear contacts for near-sightedness. My heart goes out to everyone > who has to struggle with eye discomfort on a daily basis. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole group. > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > eGroups.com home: /group/rosacea-support > - Simplifying group communications > > > > > __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2000 Report Share Posted February 17, 2000 I have ocular rosacea and permanently red cheeks, but also have a significant amount of acne too. Angie > Re: illness > > > In a message dated 2/15/00 8:29:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jeclary@... > writes: > > << Maybe we should do a bit of detective work.....how many of us with the > vascular (redness problem) exacerbated by heat, do not suffer > with the eye > problem, and how many, like me, whose rosacea has been calmer in terms of > redness, suffer the eye symptoms...( I think that's right isn't > it, Joy?) It > may be worth running a poll and giving dr. Nase the results...who knows!! > >> > >> > hi, i'm the redness/heat category, no eye symptoms. > cenia > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the > whole group. > see http://ii.net/~dp/rosacea/toc.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > eGroups.com home: /group/rosacea-support > - Simplifying group communications > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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