Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Sorry forgot to put ranges, they are added on below: Free t4 .8-1.8 free t3 230-420 tsh .4-5.5 (which is ridiculous) > > Yup, my doc has signed her own pink slip. My husband and I are going > to be going back to her one more time to basically ask her why she > didn't comment on my tsh going up, and my low levels of ft3 and ferritin. > > Here are what my levels were before any meds: > Free T4: 0.9 > Free T3: 245 > Tsh : 14.9 > > My tsh on 125 Synthroid: 1.1 > she didn't check the others > > and my recent labs after being on 137 Synthroid > > Ft4: 1.5 (went up) > Ft3: 260 (went up a whole 15 ooooh) > tsh: 2.8 (went up 1.7 which is not good) > Ferritin: 34 with a range of 10-154 (guess I need iron suppliments) > > Any advice would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Tygreye wrote: >Sorry forgot to put ranges, they are added on below: >Free t4 .8-1.8 >free t3 230-420 >tsh .4-5.5 (which is ridiculous) > >> >>Ft4: 1.5 (went up) >>Ft3: 260 (went up a whole 15 ooooh) >>tsh: 2.8 (went up 1.7 which is not good) >>Ferritin: 34 with a range of 10-154 (guess I need iron suppliments) >> > > > > > > free t3 median is 325 so your freet3 is low freet4 median is 1.3 so your freet4 is at least in the top half of the range though many drs prefer it to be higher than that your ferritin is definitely low did you get a full blood count/CBC/HB done as well? -- Alison http://www.alisonashwell.com new work uploaded http://www.artwanted/alisonashwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Oh she would never approve of those tests. I am still waiting on finding out if I have to pay for the ferrtin test cause she did not reccommend it. I am looking into another doctor to see if I can get all the labs done that need to be done. > > >Sorry forgot to put ranges, they are added on below: > >Free t4 .8-1.8 > >free t3 230-420 > >tsh .4-5.5 (which is ridiculous) > > > >> > >>Ft4: 1.5 (went up) > >>Ft3: 260 (went up a whole 15 ooooh) > >>tsh: 2.8 (went up 1.7 which is not good) > >>Ferritin: 34 with a range of 10-154 (guess I need iron suppliments) > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > free t3 median is 325 so your freet3 is low > freet4 median is 1.3 so your freet4 is at least in the top half of the > range though many drs prefer it to be higher than that > your ferritin is definitely low > did you get a full blood count/CBC/HB done as well? > > -- > Alison > http://www.alisonashwell.com > new work uploaded > http://www.artwanted/alisonashwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Very true but how can she deny that my tsh actually went up when my synthroid dose was raised? She has put me on 1.5 gr of Armour because I asked her to even though she said it was a " horrible " drug. The next appointment is not to let her treat me but to let her know (and I know its going to be pointless) that my health is going down and I don't appreciate her acting like she is God of my health without my concerns answered. I am definately looking for a different doctor cause I am tired of being unwell. I am looking into one that people have said really listens to his patients and loves armour. That he listens to symptoms and not labs. only problem is you have to join a club now to see him but if its going to make me better I can't wait. He is on Shomon's top doc website too. > I'm going to say that your dr is mainly concerned with TSH. It's what she's been taught to worship. What I do notice is also that the ranges that your lab uses, which helps to see what end of what they consider to be 'normal' is. That is what allowed me to be able to see just how low which tests ranged. > > I've never been tested for ferritin by any dr, unless I was pregnant. Your dr is also going to tell you that the right numbers for your labs were changing after she put you on Sinthyroid, and that your TSH was coming down on that dose. In her eyes, this is completely acceptable. > > I think if you're expecting her to say she's made a mistake you'll be greatly suprised. She's giving you a drug that the medical community touts as being 'superior' although many of us will testify that that's hogwash. lol. I can't count the times I 've heard that it just 'takes time' to get these levels right, and there are many people who believe that. They will go for years allowing a dr to 'get it right' even when they feel awful. Anybody who is going to a dr who mainly pays attention to TSH is not going to be treated optimally. That is the one thing anybody here will tell you up front. Most main stream Endo's operate the exact way your dr is treating you. If your symptoms get worse, and they're not considered into the factor, optimal treatment just isn't a possiblility. But, if you had been given Armour, and the ferritin being low was an issue, your dr would have merely said, see, I told you Armour doesn't work. > > SandyE~Houston > > > > labs > > > > Yup, my doc has signed her own pink slip. My husband and I are going > to be going back to her one more time to basically ask her why she > didn't comment on my tsh going up, and my low levels of ft3 and ferritin. > > Here are what my levels were before any meds: > Free T4: 0.9 > Free T3: 245 > Tsh : 14.9 > > My tsh on 125 Synthroid: 1.1 > she didn't check the others > > and my recent labs after being on 137 Synthroid > > Ft4: 1.5 (went up) > Ft3: 260 (went up a whole 15 ooooh) > tsh: 2.8 (went up 1.7 which is not good) > Ferritin: 34 with a range of 10-154 (guess I need iron suppliments) > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 I'm going to say that your dr is mainly concerned with TSH. It's what she's been taught to worship. What I do notice is also that the ranges that your lab uses, which helps to see what end of what they consider to be 'normal' is. That is what allowed me to be able to see just how low which tests ranged. I've never been tested for ferritin by any dr, unless I was pregnant. Your dr is also going to tell you that the right numbers for your labs were changing after she put you on Sinthyroid, and that your TSH was coming down on that dose. In her eyes, this is completely acceptable. I think if you're expecting her to say she's made a mistake you'll be greatly suprised. She's giving you a drug that the medical community touts as being 'superior' although many of us will testify that that's hogwash. lol. I can't count the times I 've heard that it just 'takes time' to get these levels right, and there are many people who believe that. They will go for years allowing a dr to 'get it right' even when they feel awful. Anybody who is going to a dr who mainly pays attention to TSH is not going to be treated optimally. That is the one thing anybody here will tell you up front. Most main stream Endo's operate the exact way your dr is treating you. If your symptoms get worse, and they're not considered into the factor, optimal treatment just isn't a possiblility. But, if you had been given Armour, and the ferritin being low was an issue, your dr would have merely said, see, I told you Armour doesn't work. SandyE~Houston labs Yup, my doc has signed her own pink slip. My husband and I are going to be going back to her one more time to basically ask her why she didn't comment on my tsh going up, and my low levels of ft3 and ferritin. Here are what my levels were before any meds: Free T4: 0.9 Free T3: 245 Tsh : 14.9 My tsh on 125 Synthroid: 1.1 she didn't check the others and my recent labs after being on 137 Synthroid Ft4: 1.5 (went up) Ft3: 260 (went up a whole 15 ooooh) tsh: 2.8 (went up 1.7 which is not good) Ferritin: 34 with a range of 10-154 (guess I need iron suppliments) Any advice would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 I must be missing something, although it is Synthroid, your numbers look better. The tsh is way down from the 14.9, the free t3 is up but not enough and the free t4 is much bettert. What are you objecting to? You need more meds but are heading in the right direction. Maybe they will switch you to Armour to help the t3 > >Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones >To: NaturalThyroidHormones >Subject: labs >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:08:01 -0000Here are what my levels were before >any meds: Free T4: 0.9 Free T3: 245 Tsh : 14.9 My tsh on 125 Synthroid: 1.1 she didn't check the others and my recent labs after being on 137 Synthroid Ft4: 1.5 (went up) Ft3: 260 (went up a whole 15 ooooh) tsh: 2.8 (went up 1.7 which is not good) Ferritin: 34 with a range of 10-154 (guess I need iron suppliments) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 All Endo's have a tendency to have the God complex. I didn't realize that this appt with the dr your seeing now is just to get things off your chest. I don't think she's going to deny that your TSH went up, but look at you wondering why you are worried about it when it's still in what dr's consider 'normal range'. To her there is no reason to be upset or to take offense. I'd be leary of making waves until you have a better dr in your court for the armour but those are just my thoughts, unless you want to end up self medicating because armour works better for you than not. My last dr was so angry with me for taking armour without her approval, she literally wrote up a letter to my pcp. Since I had to have a referral to the Endo, I have to wonder what all she said, and what kind of problem this might cause for me later. Dr's love to write things in your chart. That one certainly did with me. She was livid on the armour info. In the meantime, when I'm getting checked about my medical background for new insurance, I have to wonder how much info they really divulge to the new company I'm going to be going with. I've openly admitted that I do this to that dr so I have to wonder if this won't affect the way the new insurance company views me as a health risk more so than I am. i never thought about it until recently, but I have to wonder. The more of a risk the insurance considers us, the more it costs in premiums. One dr instead of really checking into my thyroid labeled me as COPD, which is serious (meaning I'll be one of the costly insured). Means my next insurance company once they find out about this 'detection in my health, is going to charge me more because I'm more prone to get sick' than other people. It wasn't COPD, and no tests to prove it, but a dr said it, it must be true concerns me. But my insurance premiums sure went up. I have to consider the possibilities on this one. Now I'm curious about your next dr. What club do you have to join to be able to get an appt with him? SandyE~Houston labs > > > > Yup, my doc has signed her own pink slip. My husband and I are going > to be going back to her one more time to basically ask her why she > didn't comment on my tsh going up, and my low levels of ft3 and ferritin. > > Here are what my levels were before any meds: > Free T4: 0.9 > Free T3: 245 > Tsh : 14.9 > > My tsh on 125 Synthroid: 1.1 > she didn't check the others > > and my recent labs after being on 137 Synthroid > > Ft4: 1.5 (went up) > Ft3: 260 (went up a whole 15 ooooh) > tsh: 2.8 (went up 1.7 which is not good) > Ferritin: 34 with a range of 10-154 (guess I need iron suppliments) > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 I think it's her ferritin that's giving her the problem, IMHO, plus the T3 is a little low here. labs > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:08:01 -0000Here are what my levels were before > >any meds: > Free T4: 0.9 > Free T3: 245 > Tsh : 14.9 > > My tsh on 125 Synthroid: 1.1 > she didn't check the others > > and my recent labs after being on 137 Synthroid > > Ft4: 1.5 (went up) > Ft3: 260 (went up a whole 15 ooooh) > tsh: 2.8 (went up 1.7 which is not good) > Ferritin: 34 with a range of 10-154 (guess I need iron suppliments) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 Yes, the ferritin is a bit low and her 4 and 3 are a bit low, but that is better than she was according to the tests > >Reply-To: NaturalThyroidHormones >To: <NaturalThyroidHormones > >Subject: Re: labs >Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 05:51:52 -0600I think it's her ferritin that's >giving her the problem, IMHO, plus the T3 is a little low here. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 My numbers were looking a little better on 125 Synthroid then it did on 137 Syn. Shouldn't I be concerned that my tsh went from 1.1 to 2.8 with an increase in Syn? I keep hearing about how t3 should be higher in this group and when I express concerns about it not being high enough you ask me what my problem is? My biggest problem is that even though my tsh did go up to almost out of the new normal of 3 and my t3 isn't near high enough for me to function properly the doc puts me on an equal amount of armour to the syn that I was put on nearly 2 months ago. Sorry if I sound a little testy but I feel I have concerns enough to be upset at my doc. Considering that from what I have experienced from her before she doesn't act like she will be increasing any of my doses. Not to mention the ferritin problem that my doc feels is completly fine. > I think it's her ferritin that's giving her the problem, IMHO, plus the T3 > is a little low here. > > > > labs > > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:08:01 -0000Here are what my levels were before > > >any meds: > > Free T4: 0.9 > > Free T3: 245 > > Tsh : 14.9 > > > > My tsh on 125 Synthroid: 1.1 > > she didn't check the others > > > > and my recent labs after being on 137 Synthroid > > > > Ft4: 1.5 (went up) > > Ft3: 260 (went up a whole 15 ooooh) > > tsh: 2.8 (went up 1.7 which is not good) > > Ferritin: 34 with a range of 10-154 (guess I need iron suppliments) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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