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> God doesn't give you more than you can handle!

>

Amy,

You must be a very strong person. I do believe that

god doesn't give you more than you can handle but it

is very hard to believe that sometime. You sound like

you are very strong in your faith and i envy you. I

live in quincy, illinois. I used to go to barnes

jewish in st. louis when i was first diagnosed and go

to answers so then i went to Iowa city, Iowa. For me

it is about the same driving distance. I'm not really

sure where you are at but i will look it up on a map.

I found a really good doc that listens to me in iowa.

I think you need to find a doc that will listen to

you. I really hope you feel better soon.

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> God doesn't give you more than you can handle!

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Amy,

You must be a very strong person. I do believe that

god doesn't give you more than you can handle but it

is very hard to believe that sometime. You sound like

you are very strong in your faith and i envy you. I

live in quincy, illinois. I used to go to barnes

jewish in st. louis when i was first diagnosed and go

to answers so then i went to Iowa city, Iowa. For me

it is about the same driving distance. I'm not really

sure where you are at but i will look it up on a map.

I found a really good doc that listens to me in iowa.

I think you need to find a doc that will listen to

you. I really hope you feel better soon.

Crystal

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Oh, I am bad, I know. I used to work there many many years ago, and

it was not known as the best hospital. > Janet,

>

> Just curious about the " no further comment " on Kendall Regional ?

I

> had my surgery there almost 8 months ago, and the staff, doctors

and

> everybody in general were / have been great. Do you know something

> in particular or is it just the " rivalry " I have heard about

between

> Baptist and Kendall.

>

> Bibi

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, I don't know what is happening to this younger generation. It seems so many of them that have what seen like insurmountable problems or at least ones that they can see their way around,many times involvinvg debt they have accumulated way beyond their ability to overcome. I hope that what every is Amy's problems, she is able to resolve it and also level our your relationship.

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, I don't know what is happening to this younger generation. It seems so many of them that have what seen like insurmountable problems or at least ones that they can see their way around,many times involvinvg debt they have accumulated way beyond their ability to overcome. I hope that what every is Amy's problems, she is able to resolve it and also level our your relationship.

Hugs,

jane'

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& Amy have decided that can't bring the grandkids to our house any more. is "uneasy" when anyone beside or Amy drive the kids outside their county. When he keeps Cate all day, he brings her here in the middle of the day so he can walk the dogs & do some things here; therefore, it seems that "the animals are more important than the grandchildren". They don't visit us because they're "too busy", so if the kids come to our house, we have to bring them, so now they won't get to visit us. Amy doesn't want to shut us out of the kids lives, so we can come see them at their house on weekends; we can even take them to the park near their home or the mall. Of course, they're still driving our van; we paid for Connor's preschool this year; Amy keeps dropping hints about swimming lessons & day camp for this summer. Real reason which she won't admit: we have dogs, we live in a manufactured home, has coronary artery disease, Amy doesn't want to be around me so she doesn't bring her children around. Amy told me last night that she knows I don't like her (not true - we don't agree on much, & we wouldn't be best friends, but I do like her, even if she won't believe it). & I think 's mother has complained about our pets & our home to until he's made her thoughts his, & Amy is going along to keep peace in her marriage.

I told her I'm disappointed, hurt, insulted; but I'll respect her wishes. I don't know what to do about Cate's birthday party Sun; I'm expected to go spend time with , Amy, 's parents, & the kids & have fun. Amy doesn't see why we have a problem missing some special events at our church to be at the party, because she's only asking us for "2 Sundays a year". The problem is that every family event is planned for midday on a Sun, because that's the only day that fits the other grandfather's schedule - Heaven forbid he miss a few hours work at the gun shop (Sat job for "play money") or a gun show.

So that's it in a nutshell. I think I've stopped crying enough I can go to work. This is not a good week for me emotionally or medically - on provera, week before Remicade, aching, gassy, BM problems.

Thank you for your prayers & concern.

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, I don't know what is happening to this younger generation. It seems so many of them that have what seen like insurmountable problems or at least ones that they can see their way around,many times involvinvg debt they have accumulated way beyond their ability to overcome. I hope that what every is Amy's problems, she is able to resolve it and also level our your relationship.

Hugs,

jane'

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Of course--I hope things turn out OK

(((Hugs)))

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Of course--I hope things turn out OK

(((Hugs)))

Kathy

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I hope things straighten out for you all. And it's none of my business to say so, but needs to grow some balls and stand up to his Mom and stop letting her do his thinking for him. It's for the good of his children to see both sets of grandparents.Heck I even made sure that my kid's paternal grandparents got to see the kids and talk to them as regularly as possible long after we were divorced--and they hadn't exactly done a stellar job at setting an example for their own kids.

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Amy

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, I'm just telling you, from my experience with Tina, what I would do. I'm certainly not trying to make decisions for you, this is just an idea from what I know I've gone through (which isn't exactly parallel to your problems.) I would suggest they return the van if they don't intend to use it to ever visit you with the children. Point blank. Don't beat around the bush, lay it out there and let them know you are hurt. I would also let them know that if you have to take the time and expense of going to visit the kids there and taking them to the MALL of all places, you'll be saving the money to lavish on the children while you're with them and NOT for them to use in your absence. We ran into something with my grandmother, not that this is happening but you may want to drop some questions to the kids.... my aunt was taking money from my grandmother for things to get the kids (gifts even) and telling them it was from their other grandmother. Her mother. When confronted, she said it wasn't HER fault if the kids misunderstood WHICH Grammy sent the money. Her mother was Grammy and MY grandmother, her mother-in-law, was Grandma. HA!

Anyway, I would be brutally honest with them. What do you have to lose? AND from the child's point of view, they don't care if you're at their party or not. Have a special "party" with just you and and the kids and they will remember that. Not that you were part of a crowd. Maybe Amy will someday decide to schedule things around HER parents. Maybe not. But either way you win.

Just things as I see them. I wish you luck. I know how hard this has to be on you!

Amy

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Oh , I'm so sorry that they feel that way. It hurts when our children act that way and it rips our hearts out when they try to keep us apart from our grandkids. Do you & go to counceling?? It might help both of you to deal with this situation. Is your state one where you have the grandparents rights law??

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Amy said (last night) that we can see the kids anytime - at their house, or the mall, or the park.

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I hope things straighten out for you all. And it's none of my business to say so, but needs to grow some balls and stand up to his Mom and stop letting her do his thinking for him. It's for the good of his children to see both sets of grandparents.Heck I even made sure that my kid's paternal grandparents got to see the kids and talk to them as regularly as possible long after we were divorced--and they hadn't exactly done a stellar job at setting an example for their own kids.

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Amy said (last night) that we can see the kids anytime - at their house, or the mall, or the park.

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I hope things straighten out for you all. And it's none of my business to say so, but needs to grow some balls and stand up to his Mom and stop letting her do his thinking for him. It's for the good of his children to see both sets of grandparents.Heck I even made sure that my kid's paternal grandparents got to see the kids and talk to them as regularly as possible long after we were divorced--and they hadn't exactly done a stellar job at setting an example for their own kids.

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The other grandparents are still paying off a credit card they let use when he started college (1990). They were making & Amy make the payments, but I'm not sure if they did while Amy wasn't working (I think so); & a large part of the mortgage refinancing went toward the credit card (possibly paid off their part?) has taken the children for all (or almost all) their haircuts, so I'm sure she paid for them. But she rarely lets them drive her van, regardless of the condition of their cars. Amy is working a temp job now, & I know her first check went toward the mortgage payment. Right now, they have a roof over their heads, but I don't know for how long. The grandkids get enough to eat; that's one thing Amy & make sure of ( & lives a block away & feeds them often). When we paid for Connor's preschool, Amy wasn't working, & he probably wouldn't have gotten to go to preschool if we hadn't paid it. I'm sure & Amy can give up something that will free up money for swimming lessons at the county park. I don't know if they will, but they can.

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Christy,

We've never just given & Amy money (except for one time when they couldn't buy Connor's formula, & we know they used it for that). I wrote the tuition checks to the preschool. We buy clothes, books, toys, savings bonds for the kids. Even when & Amy were first married & both lost their jobs, we took them to Sam's & bought groceries for them, but we didn't give them money.

If we take the van back, they have no way to get Connor to school, or for Amy to get to work, so we let them drive it to try to help Amy get to work so they can do better.

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, I'm just telling you, from my experience with Tina, what I would do. I'm certainly not trying to make decisions for you, this is just an idea from what I know I've gone through (which isn't exactly parallel to your problems.) I would suggest they return the van if they don't intend to use it to ever visit you with the children. Point blank. Don't beat around the bush, lay it out there and let them know you are hurt. I would also let them know that if you have to take the time and expense of going to visit the kids there and taking them to the MALL of all places, you'll be saving the money to lavish on the children while you're with them and NOT for them to use in your absence. We ran into something with my grandmother, not that this is happening but you may want to drop some questions to the kids.... my aunt was taking money from my grandmother for things to get the kids (gifts even) and telling them it was from their other grandmother. Her mother. When confronted, she said it wasn't HER fault if the kids misunderstood WHICH Grammy sent the money. Her mother was Grammy and MY grandmother, her mother-in-law, was Grandma. HA!

Anyway, I would be brutally honest with them. What do you have to lose? AND from the child's point of view, they don't care if you're at their party or not. Have a special "party" with just you and and the kids and they will remember that. Not that you were part of a crowd. Maybe Amy will someday decide to schedule things around HER parents. Maybe not. But either way you win.

Just things as I see them. I wish you luck. I know how hard this has to be on you!

Amy

I can't go into everything right now - not enough time. The problem with Amy has reached a level I'm having trouble living with. Please pray for us.

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That's their problem . They'll have to give in and understand that if they have the van, can go home and feed the animals. If you have the van, you can feed them instead. Their choice. They leave alone to care for his grandchildren as he likes or they go it alone.

Note how easy it is for me to give advice about everyone's kids but Tina throws me for a tail spin every time!

Today's dilemma: Tina said IF I would go to her wedding, she would go TODAY and find out about taking the test for GED. I called today to see what time she was going: "Oh, I forgot I had to work today. I'll try to go next week." ARGH.

, how about you decide what I do with Tina and I'll decide what you do with Amy. We'll probably both come out great!

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The thing is that when grandkids come into the picture the whole dynamic changes.

I'm soooo lucky with my kids.

Christy--let the GED thing go. Tina's 21 (I think?) and even if she isn't, she's married. She's a pita, but the more you say about the GED (or anything for that matter) the more she'll dig in her heels. Just remember there isn't anything you can do about it.

(hugs)

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I know, you said, but I even put my kids on a plane to Chicago by themselves so the grandparents could have them for a week. It's not something I'd do now, but back then Allegheny Airlines (no longer in existence--I think they are now part of US AIR) used to have the stewardesses watch them, they sat in the front of the plane andyou could walk them onto the plane and get them settled and the airline made sure that they checked who was picking the kids up and stayed with them until they were met (usually right off the plane, anyway) by the right people.

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I hope things straighten out for you all. And it's none of my business to say so, but needs to grow some balls and stand up to his Mom and stop letting her do his thinking for him. It's for the good of his children to see both sets of grandparents.Heck I even made sure that my kid's paternal grandparents got to see the kids and talk to them as regularly as possible long after we were divorced--and they hadn't exactly done a stellar job at setting an example for their own kids.

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I can't explain everything right now; I need to figure some things out myself. But, Amy needs thoughts, good vibes, prayers; & Connor & Cate need them more than Amy. , well needs a spanking. I'm trying not to worry about the situation, but it's hard to watch my own child forget she's an important person.

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I can certainly understand that. Prayers going up.

Kathy

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I can't explain everything right now; I need to figure some things out myself. But, Amy needs thoughts, good vibes, prayers; & Connor & Cate need them more than Amy. , well needs a spanking. I'm trying not to worry about the situation, but it's hard to watch my own child forget she's an important person.

Thank you,

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