Re: some info on dairy products

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In a message dated 7/14/99 7:15:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

emilym@... writes:

<< Rice Dream is yummy! >>

Really? I've seen it, but I haven't tried it yet. Too much of a wimp I

guess. I've begun to add soy to my diet more and more, but haven't been able

to kick the milk habit yet. Maybe I'll give Rice dream a shot.

jennifer

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This was mailed to me and I thought this would be of interest here.

Some research on Dairy Products, etc.

>1. A study of 50 English vegetarian children and 50 non-veg found that

>vegetarians had entirely normal growth rates. The amounts of protein, fat

>and carbohydrate were similar in the two groups, but the vegetarians got

>these nutrients mainly from plant sources and had higher intakes of iron,

>vit C, fiber.

>, I. The diet and growth of vegetarian children. Presented at

>Liverpool s Univ, School of Ed and Community Studies, April 6,

>1995.

>

>2. Studies have repeatedly shown that b-f infants grow more slowly than

>bottle-fed infants. A review of 7 N.A. and European studies shows that, in

>fact, b-f children tend to grow more rapidly in the first 2 months, then

>less rapidly from 3 to 12 months. Head circumference for these children

>stays above the reference values throughout the first year of life. The

>study suggests that, for b-f babies, the babies are right and the growth

>charts are wrong.

>Dewey, K.G., Peerson, JM, Brown , KH, et al. Growth of Breast-fed infants

>deviates from current reference data: a pooled analysis of US, Canadian,

>and European data. Pediatrics 1995;96: 495-503.

>

>3. Milk does contain calcium. But milk neither assures strong bones in

>childhood nor does it protect bones in adulthood. For the vast majority of

>people, the answer is not boosting calcium intake but, rather, limiting

>calcium loss. One major culprit in osteoporosis is protein. Diets that

>are high in protein, especially animal protein, cause more calcium to be

>excreted.

>Mazess RB, Barden, HS. Bone density in premenopausal women: effects of

>age, dietary intake, physical activity, smoking, and birth control pills,

>Am J Clin Nutr 1991; 53:132-142.

>

>4. The World Health Organization has gathered statistics on the age of

>puberty worldwide. In 1840, the average age of puberty in Western

>countries was 17 - today it is 12.5.

>Tanner, JM. Trend towards earlier menarche in London, Oslo, Copenhagen,

>the Netherlands and Hungary. Nature 1973;243:75-76.

>

>5. The customary Western diet of meat, poultry, dairy products, and fried

>foods increases the quantity of estrogens in the blood.

>Ingram DM, Bennet FC, Willcox D, de Klerk N. Effect of low-fat diets on

>femal sex hormone levels. J Natl Cancer Inst 1987;79(6);1225-29.

>

>6. In Japan, Westernization of the Japanese diet has been accompanied by a

>drop in the age of puberty in girls from 15.2 to 12.5 in the past four

>decades.

>Kagawa Y. Impact of Westernization on the nutrition of Japanese; changes in

>physique, cancer, longevity and centenarians. Prev Med 1978;7:205-17

>de Ridder CM, Thijssen JHH, Van't Veer P, et al. Dietary habits, sexual

>maturation, and plasma hormones in pubertal girls: a longitudinal study. Am

>J Clin Nutr 1991;54:805-13.

>

>7. Children need protein to grow, but they do not need high-protein foods.

>A varied menu of grains, beans, vegetables, and fruits supplies plenty of

>protein.

>Barnard, Neal Dr., Fod For Life. Crown Trade Paperbacks, New York. 1993.

>

>8. Cow's milk is not a natural food for human children or adults and is

>linked to many of the health problems - runny noses, allergies, ear

>infections, recurrent bronchitis, etc.

>Milk Has Something for Everybody? Journal of the Am Med Assoc 232(5) 539,

>May 5, 1975.

>

>9. With each swallow of milkshake, or mouthful of cheese or ice cream,

>bovine protein is smeared upon the child's throat membranes, tonsils,

>adenoids, and other gateways into the immune system. Fragments of milk

>protein can cross the surface membranes, and when the protein of another

>animal is introduced into one's immune system, an allergic/immune response

>is created in many places in the body.

>A common reaction to such an assault by a foreign protein in our immune

>system is an outpouring of mucous from the nasal and throat membranes, upon

>which the invading substance is applied. The resulting mucous flow can

>create chronic runny noses, persistant sore throats, hoarseness,

>bronchitis, and the recurrent ear infections that plague so many children.

>Korenblat, P. Immune responses of human adults after oral and parenteral

>exposure to bovine serum albumin. Journal of Allergy. 41:226, 1968.

>Unrecognized Disorders Frequently Occurring Among Infants and Children from

>the Ill Effects of Milk. Southern Medical Journal 31:1016, September 1938.

>Add Milk to Your GI Suspect List. Patient Care. Feb 15, 1976, p. 116-26.

>

>10. Patients with asthma abd rheumatoid arthritis have been shown to

>improve dramatically when dairy protein is removed from the diet.

>hl, O. Vegan regimen with reduced medication in the treatment of

>bronchial asthma. Journal of Asthma, 1985, 22 (1): 45-55.

>Parke, A.L., Rheumatoid Arthritis and Food: A case study. British Med

>Journal 1981, June 20;282:2027-9.

>

>11. An estimated 20% of milk-producing cows in America are infected with

>leukemia viruses. Poured out into cow's milk, pooled in tanker trucks,

>pooled in dairy. Resistant to pasteurization, and have been recovered in

>supermarket supplies. Is it a coincidence that the highest rates of

>leukemia are found in children ages 3 through 13, who consume the most

>milk? The occupational group with the highest rate of leukemia is dairy

>farmers.

>Ferrer, J. Milk of dairy cows frequently contains a leukomogenic virus.

>Science 213:1014, 1981.

>A Multiple Share of Myeloma. Med World News. May 16, 1969. P. 23

>What Causes Cancer on the Farm? Med World News, Jan 14, 1972. P. 39.

>Klaper, Dr. Pregnancy, Children and the Vegan Diet. Gentle World

>Inc, Maui, Hawaii, 1994.

>

>12. The cause of osteoporosis is not ordinarily an inadequate calcium

>intake but calcium loss. Countries with greater calcium consumption

>actually had more hip fractures, not fewer. Calcium was not causing the

>fractures. The countries with a high calcium intake happened to be those

>where Western diets - meat and dairy products - were popular. When the

>researchers looked at how much meat these populations ate and their

>incidence of hip fractures, they had found their culprit. The more meat

>people ate, the more hip fractures they had. The problem was apparently

>something in the meat, and the high calcium intake was not able to stop the

>fractures.

>Dr. Neal Barnard, Eat Right Live Longer, Harmony Books, New York. 1995.

>Abelow, BJ. TR Holford, and KL Insogna. 1992. Cross-cultural assoc.

>between dietary animal protein and hip fracture: a hypothesis. Calcified

>Tissue International 50:14-18.

>

>13. When researchers feed animal protein to volunteers and then test their

>urine a little later, it is loaded with calcium. When protein is digested

>the blood becomes slightly acidic-body neutralizes the acidity utilizing

>calcium pulled from the bones. Bodybuilders and others who take protein

>supplements have even greater calcium losses. A recent report in the

>American Journal of Clin Nutr showed that when research subjects eliminated

>meats, cheese and eggs from their diets, they cut their urinary calcium

>losses in half.

>Ibid

>Remer, T. and F. Manz. 1994. Estimation of the renal net acid excretion by

>adults consuming diets containing variable amounts of protein. Am Jour of

>Clin Nutr 59:1356-61.

>

>14. Intake of extra sodium, kidneys have to get rid of it, sending calcium

>along with it. Dairy products are high in sodium...human milk

>40mg/cup...cow milk 120mg/cup...goat milk122mg/cup

>Nordin, BE. AG Need, HA , and M. Horowitz. 1993. The nature and

>significance of the relationship between urinary sodium and urinary calcium

>in women. Jour of Nutr 123:1615-22.

>

>15. Some health organizations have promoted high calcium intakes in recent

>years, typically 800mg per day or more. They are trying to make up for the

>extraordinary calcium losses caused by animal protein, phosphorus,

>caffeine, sodium, tobacco, and other factors. It does not work very well.

>Many research studies have shown that calcium intake has little effect on

>osteoporosis. This does not mean that you do not need calcium in the diet,

>and if you get very little - less than 400mg/day, you may not be giving

>your body all the calcium it needs.

>Dairy products are not the healthiest source. They contain calcium, but

>only about 30 % or less of it is absorbed. Dairy products have many other

>undesirable features, incl animal proteins that contribute to some cases of

>arthritis and respiratory problems, lactose sugar that is linked to

>cataracts, frequent traces of antibiotics, saturated fat, and many other

>problems that lead many doctors to suggest that we avoid them and get

>calcium from healthier sources.

>Riggs, BL, HW Wahner, J. Melton, LS Richelson, HL Judd, and M. O' Fallon.

>1987. Dietary calcium intake and rates on bone loss in women. Jour of

>Clin Investigation 80:979-82.

>Dawson-, B. 1991. Calcium supplementation and bone loss: a review of

>controlled clinical trials. Am Jour of Clin Nutr 54:274S-80S.

>

>15. The healthiest calcium sources are 'greens and beans.' Green leafy

>vegetables are loaded with calcium. One cup of broccoli has 178 mg of

>calcium and the calcium in broccoli and most other green leafy vegetables

>is more absorbable than the calcium in milk. Beans, lentils, and other

>legumes are also loaded with calcium. A varied menu of vegetables and

>legumes can easily give you all the calcium you need, and the amount your

>body needs is far less when you steer clear of meats and the other calcium

>depleters. The WHO rec. daily calcium intake of just 400-500mg per day.

>Heaney, RP and CM Weaver. 1990. Calcium absorption from kale. Am Jour of

>Clin Nutr 51:656-57.

>Dr. Neal Barnard, Eat Right Live Longer. as above.

>

>16. The University of California at Berkeley Newsletter reported in

>January 1993 that Americans eat more than twice as much cheese today as in

>the late 1960's - 28 pounds per person each year.

>

>17. A study by Dr. Hans- Dosch, published in the New England

>Journal of Medicine in August 1992, showed that allergy to milk protein in

>susceptible individuals may be one of the causes of /type 1 - insulin

>dependent diabetes in children. This is not a new idea - other scientists

>have noted and reported, since 1990, that more diabetes is found in

>countries where people consume the most milk.

>Dr. Attwood, Low-Fat Prescription Diet for Kids. Penguin Books.

NY. 1995

>

>18. Findings of the Bogalusa Heart Study, reported in dozens of well-known

>medical journals, incl Am Jour of Cardiology 1992, seem to have been

>largely ignored by the medical profession. A 21 year study of 14,000

>children followed until the oldest in the group had reached mid 30's. Most

>impressive were the autopsy reports on children in this study who had died

>suddenly of accidents and other causes of unexpected death. Fatty deposits

>were found in the aortas of all children over the age of 3...in the

>coronary arteries of most of the 190 children and young adults. Those with

>the highest known cholesterol levels had the most fatty deposits. This

>indicates a need to do something to control cholesterol levels during

>childhood.

>More recent autopsy studies on children were done by Dr. H. C. Stary in

>1989 and 1990. He found fatty deposits in the coronary arteries by age 3,

>and by age 12 nearly 70% of children examined had them. They increased in

>size rapidly throughout the teens; and virtually all young adults had the

>disease by age 21.

>Ibid.

>

>19. In September 1992, reps of the Physicians' Committee for Responsible

>Medicine (PCRM) http://www.sai.com/pcrm held a press conference in Boston,

>in which the group's president, Dr. Neal Barnard, of Washington

>Univ, and Dr. Oski, chief of pediatrics at Hopkins Un -

>representing the committee's approx 3,000 physician members--spoke out

>against ALL consumption of cow's milk during infancy and childhood. They

>cited growing evidence that it causes liifelong allergies, coronary heart

>disease, cancer, and even insulin-dependent diabetes.

>Dr. Oski said, " There is no redeeming feature to cow's milk that should

>make people drink it. " Interviewed by The Wall Street Journal, he added,

> " It was designed for calves, not humans. "

>Also present at the PCRM news conf was Suzanne Havala, a reg. dietician

>from North Carolina and primary author of the 'Position of the American

>Dietetic Association: Vegetarian Diets. " She stated that, after weaning,

>there is NO need for milk of any sort. " Generally, if a vegetarian child

>is getting enough calories and reasonable variety in his diet, then he

>should be able to get enough calcium and riboflavin from plant food without

>drinking milk OR taking supplements. " She went on to say that the

>officially recommended daily need for calcium is set much higher than a

>human's true requirement to compensate for the American high-protein diet.

>Ibid.

>Dosch: J. Karjalainen, JM , M Knip et al, A Bovine Albumin Peptide

>as a Possible Trigger of Insulin-Dependent Diabetes Mellitus. New Engl Jour

>Med, vol. 327 1992. 302-7.

>(Interesting that the response from the Am Academy of Pediatrics' Committee

>on Nutrition called this 'nutritional terrorism', and said the major

>problem was that the PCRM position was that it would frighten

>parents,...and that pediatricians should trust the advice they have been

>giving for the last 100 years. --During the last 100 years, however,

>coronary-artery disease has become the nation's number 1 killer - before

>the turn of thee century it wasn't even among the top 10 causes of death.)

>Ibid.

>

>20. Two ounces of Cheddar cheese may supply 14 g of protein, but it also

>contains a whopping 18 grams of fat - 12 of them saturated...more protein

>is contained in a serving of beans, which contain practically no fat at

>all.

>

>21. Cow's milk is high in calcium *and* protein, and therein lies the

>problem. Since only 28% of the calcium in dairy products is absorbed, and

>the excess protein promotes calcium excretion by the kidneys, milk and

>other dairy products may, over a lifetime, lead to severe deficiencies of

>calcium and to osteoporosis.

>Dr. Attwood, as above.

>

>22. Human milk provides 5% of its calories as protein. Nature seems to be

>telling us as little babies, whose bodies are growing the fastest they will

>ever grow in their lives, and whose protein needs are maximum, are best

>served when 5% of their food calories come as protein.

>If we ate nothing but wheat (16% protein), or oatmeal (15% percent), or

>even pumpkin (12%), we would easily be getting more than enough protein.

>Even the common potato is 11 percent protein.

>Robbins, , Diet for A New World. Avon Books, NY. 1992.

>

>23. Low-fat dairy products are higher in protein than the higher-fat

>products. This is not a health advantage as mentioned earlier. Low and

>especially non-fat dairy products have been shown to make an even greater

>contribution to osteoporosis, kidney problems. Dairy products are the

>leading culprits in food allergies, and the lower fat versions are actually

>more allergencid than those higher in fat, because they are higher in

>protein. For it is the proteins in dairy that induce allergic reactions in

>humans.

>Bahna, S. Allergies to Milk, Grune and Stratton, NY, 1980.

> Robbins, as above.

>

>24. December 29, 1989, the Wall Street Journal published a front page

>story from their survey found drug residues, incl penicillin and sulfa

>drugs, in 38% of milk samples purchased in 10 major cities. Pediatrics

>1995;9--------------1D97598D4D59--------------------------------

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In a message dated 7/14/99 4:18:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, NFLI4U@...

writes:

<< << Rice Dream is yummy! >> >>

i like almond milk better---mmmm-now THAT is good!!!!

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Thanks for the info Tammy - this is very timely and inspiring for me to read

at this time since I'm cutting all dairy out of my diet due to Corey's

allergy. My mom had told me a lot of this stuff but not with references of

course. Have you all visited Dr. Weil's web site? He says a lot of the

same stuff about dairy really causing/making worse allergies, asthma,

stuffiness, etc...

and by the way, Rice Dream is yummy! Did I say that before? Sorry if I'm

repeating myself!

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yeah, I got the vanilla kind and really liked it, esp. in cereal. i hear

the chocolate is really good too.

> From: NFLI4U@...

>

> In a message dated 7/14/99 7:15:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> emilym@... writes:

>

> << Rice Dream is yummy! >>

> Really? I've seen it, but I haven't tried it yet. Too much of a wimp I

> guess. I've begun to add soy to my diet more and more, but

> haven't been able

> to kick the milk habit yet. Maybe I'll give Rice dream a shot.

>

> jennifer

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But have you tried chocolate Silk?? Yummm.

Tammy

>

> From: NFLI4U@...

>

> In a message dated 7/14/99 7:15:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> emilym@... writes:

>

> << Rice Dream is yummy! >>

> Really? I've seen it, but I haven't tried it yet. Too much of a wimp I

> guess. I've begun to add soy to my diet more and more, but

> haven't been able

> to kick the milk habit yet. Maybe I'll give Rice dream a shot.

>

> jennifer

>

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> Thanks for the info Tammy - this is very timely and inspiring

I have to agree! I have been emailing for the past few weeks with one of

our family practicioners who thinks that breastfeeding is a risk factor

for osteoporosis, and I sent six of these citations to him tonight.

Wonder what he'll say later -- I'll be sure to share!!

" Education for life " is this year's World Breastfeeding Week theme, so

I'm taking full advantage of it!

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- I just wanted to tell you I think it is so wonderful how you are

so dedicated to advocacy of breastfeeding. You have really inspired a

lot of us I believe to be more educated and to help put the word out.

, mum to (aka peach)12-22-98

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> - I just wanted to tell you I think it is so wonderful how you are

> so dedicated to advocacy of breastfeeding. You have really inspired a

> lot of us I believe to be more educated and to help put the word out.

>

Thanks , that's so sweet. I guess I just feel like it I had

known then what I know now about breastfeeding, I might have been more

successful with my first -- in fact, I know I would have. And I

wouldn't trade the relationships with my next two babies for any

special, new ingredient in any brand of formula for that! I guess I'm

just gonna be around awhile to make sure that everyone knows that there

is hope, and that breastfeeding is only as hard as we want it to be.

[Guest guest]

<<make sure that everyone knows that there is hope, and that

breastfeeding is only as hard as we want it to be. >>

AMEN to that!!!

, mum to (aka peach)12-22-98