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In a message dated 10/21/2004 11:05:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

noelstarkey@... writes:

> . I wanted to ask her about Armour instead of just upping

> my Levoxyl again.

this is the main thing that will help you. insist upon Armour.

Cindi

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Hi Noelle and welcome to the group. You will find we have many

friendly and helpful folks here.

Noelle, what you are experiencing is common for folks on T4-only

meds. What you are getting is only a storage hormone. T4 is meant to

convert to the active T3--T3 gives you great energy, good health,

hair that stays in, corrects that depression, raises the metabolism,

etc. But being only on T4 means you are not getting enough of a

conversion of T3, and thus the problems.

On Armour, you will get the entire gamut--T4, DIRECT T3, T2, T1 and

calicitonin. It's a FAR superior treatment.

Most docs are entirely ignorant about Armour. They haven't been

trained about it. So you may have to insist in trying it, or find

another doc who prescribes it. Many folks here even self-treat--they

couldn't find a doc who knew enough. Or, when they did find an

Armour doc, the doc was too lab-reliant, and refused to give them

ENOUGH to rid them of symptoms.

FORGET an ENDO!! They are lousy. They are lab-obsessed and only

prescribe T4 meds.

Go into our FILES and read, read. Also check out the LINKS.

Janie

> Hi everyone! I was so glad to have found this group. I have been

> hypo since I was 16. Usually I am fine but the past 2 years or so I

> have noticed I'm becoming more depressed, weight gain (and no

matter

> how much I exercise or diet no loss!), dry skin, fatigue (some

> mornings I can barely move). I'm currently on 150mcg of Levoxyl. I

> was upped from 125mcg 3 mos ago. But I just don't feel " right " . I'm

> always " blurry " in my thoughts and I HATE feeling so tired. I am

> wondering if you guys have any suggestions. I'm going to see my GP

> next week. I wanted to ask her about Armour instead of just upping

> my Levoxyl again. Also, do you guys think I should ask for a

> referral to an endo instead of just seeing my GP? I just feel like

> she's going to poo-poo what I say (because I found it on the

> internet or a book) and not take me seriously. But I know my body

> and how I feel and I don't feel right.

>

> Thanks for the help in advance!!

> noelle

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Good morning everybody. A lady who goes to my beauty shop recently

told me that she'd given up her Synthroid because it just wasn't doing

anything for her. I told her about Armour, and guess what? She's

using it! Says she felt better and saw results soon from it! Since I

had to place a large order yesterday, I've ordered two bottles for her

too since we live so close to each other.

I'm going to try the Generic as she wanted since it's so much cheaper

in price, and I could order it in several dosages. My Mom says the

Armour works great for her, but something is really going on with her

mind at this point. I finally told her since I'd shared some of my

armour with her that if she were not going to use it daily, I'd prefer

that she not take it at all. A day here, and then not taking it on her

days off, or forgetting it isn't going to do her any good. Well, at

least that is my take on it.

What I did find terribly interesting though is that she was taking it

on a daily basis, then got scared because she was moving around so

much better, and feeling better, so she stopped? In the meantime,

she's had a very unsightly place on her calf of her left leg that I've

tried to get her to go to the dr about for years now when it first

came up. She swore that a bug that bit her made that happen, but it's

highly unlikely as she's had that place on her leg for better than 10

yrs.

I remember well when she started losing her hair and made excuses for

it, along with this leg problem. The leg is not only swollen, but it

weeps and itches her like crazy. I've tried to find something similar

in pics, to compare it to, but so far have come up empty handed. She

bragged to me last night about how it's just miraculously going away?

I have to wonder if her body doing so long without thyroid

replacement isn't what caused her problem in the first place. She's

still unclear about taking Armour, but I ordered a few extra bottles

for her just in case. If she doesn't take them, I'll use them. It's

hard on me even talking to her when she's not taking it because I see

such an improvement when she is on it. sigh

SandyE~Houston

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:01:07 -0700

baron chat wrote:

> fortunately for the people who need armour but don't have

>doctors

> who'll give it to them, it is available for not much money from

> offshore online pharmacies. mainly in the uk and mexico.

>

> baron

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > First, thanks for the welcome!!

> >

> > Okay, how do people self treat if Armour is an RX drug? Sorry I

>seem

> > so dumb..I had NO idea this drug was out there till I just read

>

> > Shomans Thyroid Diet book.

> >

> > Thanks for the info re: the endo..I won't waste my time then. I

>see

> > a nurse practioner and she is really good and she does listen most

> > of the time BUT she is leaving the practice at the end of month :(

> >

> > noelle

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >>

> >> Hi Noelle and welcome to the group. You will find we have many

> >> friendly and helpful folks here.

> >>

> >> Noelle, what you are experiencing is common for folks on T4-only

> >> meds. What you are getting is only a storage hormone. T4 is meant

> > to

> >> convert to the active T3--T3 gives you great energy, good health,

> >> hair that stays in, corrects that depression, raises the

> > metabolism,

> >> etc. But being only on T4 means you are not getting enough of a

> >> conversion of T3, and thus the problems.

> >>

> >> On Armour, you will get the entire gamut--T4, DIRECT T3, T2, T1

> > and

> >> calicitonin. It's a FAR superior treatment.

> >>

> >> Most docs are entirely ignorant about Armour. They haven't been

> >> trained about it. So you may have to insist in trying it, or find

> >> another doc who prescribes it. Many folks here even self-treat--

> > they

> >> couldn't find a doc who knew enough. Or, when they did find an

> >> Armour doc, the doc was too lab-reliant, and refused to give them

> >> ENOUGH to rid them of symptoms.

> >>

> >> FORGET an ENDO!! They are lousy. They are lab-obsessed and only

> >> prescribe T4 meds.

> >>

> >> Go into our FILES and read, read. Also check out the LINKS.

> >>

> >> Janie

> >>

> >>> Hi everyone! I was so glad to have found this group. I have been

> >>> hypo since I was 16. Usually I am fine but the past 2 years or

> > so I

> >>> have noticed I'm becoming more depressed, weight gain (and no

> >> matter

> >>> how much I exercise or diet no loss!), dry skin, fatigue (some

> >>> mornings I can barely move). I'm currently on 150mcg of Levoxyl.

> > I

> >>> was upped from 125mcg 3 mos ago. But I just don't feel " right " .

> > I'm

> >>> always " blurry " in my thoughts and I HATE feeling so tired. I am

> >>> wondering if you guys have any suggestions. I'm going to see my

> > GP

> >>> next week. I wanted to ask her about Armour instead of just

> > upping

> >>> my Levoxyl again. Also, do you guys think I should ask for a

> >>> referral to an endo instead of just seeing my GP? I just feel

> > like

> >>> she's going to poo-poo what I say (because I found it on the

> >>> internet or a book) and not take me seriously. But I know my

>body

> >>> and how I feel and I don't feel right.

> >>>

> >>> Thanks for the help in advance!!

> >>> noelle

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi, Noelle,

So glad to have you join us! I find endocrinologists to be the worst. I'd

check out your regular doctor first.

You could ask for a free T3 test. (Read Dr. Arem's book, " The Thyroid

Solution " . I f your free T3 isn't high in

The range you definitely need Armour. But Armour also has T1, T2 and

calcitonin as well as T3 and T4, whereas, Synthroid only has T4. Let us know

what happens!

in Va.

Hi everyone! I was so glad to have found this group. I have been

hypo since I was 16. Usually I am fine but the past 2 years or so I

have noticed I'm becoming more depressed, weight gain (and no matter

how much I exercise or diet no loss!), dry skin, fatigue (some

mornings I can barely move). I'm currently on 150mcg of Levoxyl. I

was upped from 125mcg 3 mos ago. But I just don't feel " right " . I'm

always " blurry " in my thoughts and I HATE feeling so tired. I am

wondering if you guys have any suggestions. I'm going to see my GP

next week. I wanted to ask her about Armour instead of just upping

my Levoxyl again. Also, do you guys think I should ask for a

referral to an endo instead of just seeing my GP? I just feel like

she's going to poo-poo what I say (because I found it on the

internet or a book) and not take me seriously. But I know my body

and how I feel and I don't feel right.

Thanks for the help in advance!!

noelle

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> In a message dated 10/21/2004 12:45:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> starz@h... writes:

>>

> i don't doubt this was from a skin disorder from hypo. That was

one of my

> worst problems. Hypo can cause all sorts of skin eruptions,

boils, cysts, etc.

> cindi

>

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I've just recently discovered that my skin scleroderma & skin tags

are likely thyroid related.

Caroline

> In a message dated 10/21/2004 12:45:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> starz@h... writes:>

> > In the meantime,

> > she's had a very unsightly place on her calf of her left leg

> i don't doubt this was from a skin disorder from hypo. That was

one of my worst problems. Hypo can cause all sorts of skin

eruptions, boils, cysts, etc.> cindi

>

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  • 3 years later...

Hello all, I am new to all of this and just thought I would say hello to the

group. I have been " diagnosed " with Fribro for about10 years now but had it for

many years more. At this time I am dealing with one of the worst flare ups I

have had in my life. I am trying to deal but it is nice to know there are others

out that that KNOW what I am talking about etc when I say I just hurt..... Thank

you for being there!

Sherry

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