Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Thea, I'm not sure trying harder is the answer. That makes it sound like you are a failure, which I am certain you are not! What was going thru your mind when you got up and ate 10 cookies? Were you lonely? Anxious? Afraid? Also, did you enjoy all 10? Or just enjoy maybe one or two, but the rebel inside you said Screw it and you ate 10? I am just throwing these questions out there for you to answer to yourself. That is how I worked thru my night binges. I worked 2nd shift and my husband of the time worked 1st shift. I got home and he as asleep. I was alone all day. I was anxious. I was lonely. I was depressed. I would leave work and go thru a drive thru and eat a whole meal. Or I would go home and eat whatever leftovers we had. It was a process in itself to quit the night eating. So perhaps being more CONSCIOUS of your night eating would be a place to start. That being said.. in some posts people refer to Gillian. Who is Gillian?? Kimberlie IEing since 11/08 Subject: beserk night eatingTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 5:37 AM I just don't know what this is about. I made some cookies yesterday,this experimental recipe i wanted to try. And I woke up in the nightand ate ten of them, after a while even consciously thinking that Iwas feeling sick and not wanting any more. I haven't done this in a while. Well, like a couple of weeks. Ididn't eat any all day because I've been feeling kind of queasy eversince. Night eating has been a huge problem for me for years and years. lately I've been trying various things to help me sleep through thenight but haven't hit on a good solution yet. I'm a student so Idon't have regular hours, and between my husband and I, workloads varyso much that we can't seem to stick to a good schedule.just venting I guess. I have to try harder.thea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Thea, I don't think you have to try harder - maybe just accept that your body is trying to tell you something? I know that if I haven't eaten much during the day - which I do when I'm busy with doing things - then I can often be more hungry in the evenings. I used to fight this urge with the old diet mentality of " you have been soooo good during the day - don't ruin that with night eating " . But it really was diet mentality - I was sincerely hungry and the more I fought it, the more I ate. It doesn't surprise me that you are not hungry the next morning and even thru some of that day - you ate late and it is carrying you forward. Its a GOOD sign that you are sensing that your body does NOT want to eat. Now just be ready to eat when it says to do that - irregardless of what any clock says ;-) BEST to you, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I just don't know what this is about. I made some cookies yesterday, > this experimental recipe i wanted to try. And I woke up in the night > and ate ten of them, after a while even consciously thinking that I > was feeling sick and not wanting any more. > > I haven't done this in a while. Well, like a couple of weeks. I > didn't eat any all day because I've been feeling kind of queasy ever > since. > > Night eating has been a huge problem for me for years and years. > lately I've been trying various things to help me sleep through the > night but haven't hit on a good solution yet. I'm a student so I > don't have regular hours, and between my husband and I, workloads vary > so much that we can't seem to stick to a good schedule. > > just venting I guess. I have to try harder. > > thea > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 maybe your blood surag goes low if mine goes low look out everything thats not nailed down Betty Re: beserk night eating Thea, I don't think you have to try harder - maybe just accept thatyour body is trying to tell you something? I know that if I haven'teaten much during the day - which I do when I'm busy with doing things- then I can often be more hungry in the evenings. I used to fightthis urge with the old diet mentality of "you have been soooo goodduring the day - don't ruin that with night eating". But it really wasdiet mentality - I was sincerely hungry and the more I fought it, themore I ate. It doesn't surprise me that you are not hungry the next morning andeven thru some of that day - you ate late and it is carrying youforward. Its a GOOD sign that you are sensing that your body does NOTwant to eat. Now just be ready to eat when it says to do that -irregardless of what any clock says ;-)BEST to you, KatchaIEing since March 2007>> I just don't know what this is about. I made some cookies yesterday,> this experimental recipe i wanted to try. And I woke up in the night> and ate ten of them, after a while even consciously thinking that I> was feeling sick and not wanting any more. > > I haven't done this in a while. Well, like a couple of weeks. I> didn't eat any all day because I've been feeling kind of queasy ever> since. > > Night eating has been a huge problem for me for years and years. > lately I've been trying various things to help me sleep through the> night but haven't hit on a good solution yet. I'm a student so I> don't have regular hours, and between my husband and I, workloads vary> so much that we can't seem to stick to a good schedule.> > just venting I guess. I have to try harder.> > thea> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 > Tonight as well as other nights I am not really sure what > the bottom line reason is, but sometimes it is wanting > to eat SIMPLY because I felt like I didnt get to earlier > in the day and I feel CHEATED by not getting to eat. > (it is NOT that I wanted to eat more earlier, cause > I didnt most times) > Oh I so know the feeling. It's this weird psychological trick where all of the sudden you remember all the deprivation and hunger and you want to make it up to yourself. For a while I was making cookies every week to make up for all the cookies I didn't eat, not that I put it to myself that way but I think that's what it is. It's very hard to see what the solution is to this. I was doing very well the past week with regard to IE, but I got off the rails and ate a bunch of cookies and ice cream, more than I wanted even. Just in this weird effort to please myself. I keep trying to say to myself, ok, so you had some ice cream lunches last week, big whoop, you wanted them, they were good. I don't think I believe me though. thea thea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Thanks so much for this, and everyone for your responses. I'll be honest. I've been avoiding the message board the past couple of days because I've been feeling ashamed, eating a lot and not walking as much. (I like walking but sometimes it's too cold and I just don't feel like it.) Mindfulness is such an interesting and hard thing. It's so hard for me. When I think about myself I feel judgmental and panicky. maybe I will get that book. thea > > Thea, > I can hear your disappointment and frustration. It must feel exhausting to not be able to turn of the " food-war " even when you are sleeping! I bet most of us here have had those same night walks to the fridge. I know that I get them when I have had a lot of restricting-food tension (even when I turn intuitive eating into a diet with the rules of 'eat only when hungry'). I support you in how kind you sound to yourself. > > > I love what Katcha said in her reply about not having to try harder. > > It reminds me of something (the co-author of Intuitive Eating) told me when I spoke to her on Friday that really rocked my world (in a good way). I told her how I was trying to use cognitive psych techniques etc to change what I was thinking and she mentioned that the type of thinking I was doing was not going to be how I let go of overeating. At first I didn't understand. Then she recommended the book " The Mindful Way through Depression " by Mark etc. and the contents blew my mind.... > > I have spent two solid years literally every day trying to come up with the " strategy " that would get me to stick with these eating principles and the book suggests that it is that form of thinking that makes the problem worse..... they say > > " It is ok to stop trying to solve the problem of feeling sad (of bummed we overate) " We try to " think our way out of it " and end up deeper in it with " endless cycles of mental strategizing that increase our risk of depression (or overeating). > > The book invites us to shift into a mode of mind they call " being " or " mindfulness " in those times. And I have to say it has made a huge difference in the past few days. > > I hope there is something here that may be of help!! > > I also love what " Overcoming Overeating " by Hirschmann and Munter says about treating ourselves tenderly and with compassion after we binge... this quote always gets me about the impact of treating ourselves lovingly.. > > " The knowledge that you can turn to someone so caring and tender as yourself makes it less likely that you'll need to turn to food when you're in trouble. " > > I love that! > > I wish you exceedingly well and wish you a beserk-free sweet night of sleep!! > > Warmly, > Josie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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