Guest guest Posted June 29, 1999 Report Share Posted June 29, 1999 In a message dated 6/28/99 4:53:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, barbotto@... writes: << Could someone tell me what LOL stans for. >> laughing out loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 1999 Report Share Posted June 29, 1999 In a message dated 6/29/99 8:08:00 AM !!!First Boot!!!, naturebaby@... writes: << I am somehow this eternal optimist that people will be as openminded as myself. Alas, that isn't ho >> I also have been reading these posts and they are very interesting, so I can't help but put in my 2 cents.... I gotta say that when I read the replies to Amy's posts, I felt kinda bad for her. She is entitled to her feelings about this very personal and individual situation, and I just didn't see the need for her to be put on the spot to justify the way she felt. We just get gut reactions on these kinds of things, kind of like being an organ donor or organ recipient. I think what Wendi did felt right and natural to her and the rest involved under the circumstances. But if it just doesn " t feel right for someone else, that should be ok too. I don " t think it has to do with being *openminded*, just a matter of finding yourself in a situation and making a decision. JMO. Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 1999 Report Share Posted June 29, 1999 > comes in big spurts as she is overseas. Yup, that's me... the Spurter. Now that my ISP is a little less flaky, Eudora has decided not to cooperate. All last night and all this morning, it crashes when I try to get mail, or even when I try to exit it! So this is all being sent from Netscape Communicator... I hope the messages are readable and not packed with " & nbsp;'s " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 1999 Report Share Posted June 29, 1999 In a message dated 6/29/99 7:49:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, naturebaby@... writes: << I was asked questions that made me feel as if I were sneaking around trying to nurse everyone's baby. Wendi >> LOL...now that brings up a funny image....some woman with engorged breasts sneaking around in a trenchcoat saying .....Pssst, hey kid....wanna some really good milk??? I got the good stuff! LOL Tiffani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 1999 Report Share Posted June 29, 1999 In a message dated 6/29/99 11:49:20 PM !!!First Boot!!!, naturebaby@... writes: << I was asked questions that made me feel as if I were sneaking around trying to nurse everyone's baby. >> I am ROFL about this! I think what you did was a wonderful and caring expression of your love for children and your dear friends. I don't feel at all that you need to justify why you helped your friend and your friend's baby, the same way I don't feel Amy needed to justify why she wouldn't want to have someone else nurse her child. There is no right or wrong. I can't even imagine anyone coming up with the idea of someone sneaking around trying to nurse everyone's baby - how ridiculous. Personally, I don't know what I would do - the situation would have to present itself and I would have to see. My views on things change - theoretically I may think one way, but put me in *the shoes* and it could be an altogether different scenario. Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 1999 Report Share Posted June 29, 1999 Joan, Well I was asked on and offlist to justify my feelings and my experience. I don't think anyone should do something that feels wrong to them. I was asked questions that made me feel as if I were sneaking around trying to nurse everyone's baby. Wendi Re: milk banks etc. From: MJplus5@... In a message dated 6/29/99 8:08:00 AM !!!First Boot!!!, naturebaby@... writes: << I am somehow this eternal optimist that people will be as openminded as myself. Alas, that isn't ho >> I also have been reading these posts and they are very interesting, so I can't help but put in my 2 cents.... I gotta say that when I read the replies to Amy's posts, I felt kinda bad for her. She is entitled to her feelings about this very personal and individual situation, and I just didn't see the need for her to be put on the spot to justify the way she felt. We just get gut reactions on these kinds of things, kind of like being an organ donor or organ recipient. I think what Wendi did felt right and natural to her and the rest involved under the circumstances. But if it just doesn " t feel right for someone else, that should be ok too. I don " t think it has to do with being *openminded*, just a matter of finding yourself in a situation and making a decision. JMO. Joan --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 1999 Report Share Posted June 29, 1999 , Reading that now it doesn't at all sound like I meant it. It almost sounds dirty when reading it back. LOL OOPS! Wendi Re: milk banks etc. > comes in big spurts as she is overseas. Yup, that's me... the Spurter. Now that my ISP is a little less flaky, Eudora has decided not to cooperate. All last night and all this morning, it crashes when I try to get mail, or even when I try to exit it! So this is all being sent from Netscape Communicator... I hope the messages are readable and not packed with " & nbsp;'s " --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 1999 Report Share Posted June 29, 1999 Tiffani, That is exactly how it felt. It did make me mad at first but now I am laughing, especially after that image. Thanks. Wendi Re: milk banks etc. From: MzzTiff@... In a message dated 6/29/99 7:49:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, naturebaby@... writes: << I was asked questions that made me feel as if I were sneaking around trying to nurse everyone's baby. Wendi >> LOL...now that brings up a funny image....some woman with engorged breasts sneaking around in a trenchcoat saying .....Pssst, hey kid....wanna some really good milk??? I got the good stuff! LOL Tiffani --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 1999 Report Share Posted June 30, 1999 wendi--- I have been overwhelmed with mail lately so I havent responded---but I about nursing another womans baby I think what you did for your friend and her baby was wonderful and commendable. I would do the same in a situation where I had to. I think people have problems with it because nursing is such an intimate act and many mothers dont want to share that intimacy with another KWIM? but women in France used to send their babies far away to LIVE with wet nurses until they were weaned---then came formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 1999 Report Share Posted July 1, 1999 In a message dated 6/30/99 5:32:37 PM Central Daylight Time, naturebaby@... writes: << " Did that woman know you nursed her baby? " >> Well I was more or less trying to ask if she kne BEFORE you did it. Or did you tell her after she came back?? Of course I would assume you would tell her about the childs activites when she returned. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 1999 Report Share Posted July 1, 1999 Amy, She did not know. Like I said she had been late returning and it wasn't a planned situation. She didn't leave any breastmilk or a bottle only a cup which the baby wasn't about to take. Wendi Re: milk banks etc. From: Feb98@... In a message dated 6/30/99 5:32:37 PM Central Daylight Time, naturebaby@... writes: << " Did that woman know you nursed her baby? " >> Well I was more or less trying to ask if she kne BEFORE you did it. Or did you tell her after she came back?? Of course I would assume you would tell her about the childs activites when she returned. Amy --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 In a message dated 6/29/99 6:35:16 PM Central Daylight Time, angehowe@... writes: << Of all the men I have asked about breastfeeding, *they* would love to see more women breastfeeding, >> Well of course THEY would what man wouldn't want extra boob around in sight. I asked my husband if he minded seeing women BF in public he said NO WAY he LOVED it. AMy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 In a message dated 7/6/99 10:04:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Feb98@... writes: << I asked my husband if he minded seeing women BF in public he said NO WAY he LOVED it. >> Could your husband talk to mine??? He expects me to breastfeed our daughter, but I'm not allowed to do it within eye shot of anyone!! Even in our own home, if someone is over, I have to go into our bedroom (which is like a dungeon) to feed her. He would absolutely freak if he found out that I fed her at Friendly's last night. I think I've mastered the baby in one hand and a spoonful of icecream in the other. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 Yes, he is incredibly modest. I had my friend in the delivery room with us because she's an awesome coach, especially where my husband lacked, and I had to convince him in between contractions to let her stay. He doesn't consider parts of my body " his property " , he just doesn't think that I have cooth when it comes to body parts. I think he's just jealous that my body does incredible things, and his just sits in front of the computer and holds his head up!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 , Maybe as time goes on your dh will feel more comfortable with bfdg in front of other people. For me it would become really old to have to be by myself. I hope it passes soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 In a message dated 7/6/99 11:15:46 AM Central Daylight Time, NFLI4U@... writes: << He would absolutely freak if he found out that I fed her at Friendly's last night. >> I would let him freak. I admit when was tiny I went into another room if I was at someone elses house but at MY house let the boobs fall where they may. If he had somthign to say about it I would tell him to go pound salt. If he wants to grow breasts and feed the baby in the bedroom have at it. Or tell him that he also has to go with you when you feed her so he sees what it is liek to always have to leave the action. A few 30 minute feeding sesions in a bathroom shoudl do the trick for him. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 , No offense, but I think your dh should have to go in the bedroom to eat. I think that is crazy. Is he reluctant to share " his " breasts or is he just incredibly modest? That must be difficult for you. I know that I wouldn't be able to comply with that. I breastfeed wherever I am when my baby is hungry. Wendi Re: milk banks etc. From: NFLI4U@... In a message dated 7/6/99 10:04:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Feb98@... writes: << I asked my husband if he minded seeing women BF in public he said NO WAY he LOVED it. >> Could your husband talk to mine??? He expects me to breastfeed our daughter, but I'm not allowed to do it within eye shot of anyone!! Even in our own home, if someone is over, I have to go into our bedroom (which is like a dungeon) to feed her. He would absolutely freak if he found out that I fed her at Friendly's last night. I think I've mastered the baby in one hand and a spoonful of icecream in the other. LOL --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 > << Of all the men > I have asked about breastfeeding, *they* would love to see more women > breastfeeding, >> > > Well of course THEY would what man wouldn't want extra boob around in sight. > I asked my husband if he minded seeing women BF in public he said NO WAY he > LOVED it. > So see? Those women who blame the lack of breastfeeding on breasts being sexual objects do so because that's what they are in THEIR minds... THAT's where we have to focus on changing society! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 << Yes, he is incredibly modest >> Just out of curiosity, was he ever around another mom bfing and how did he feel about it? Of course modesty goes out the door after being probed x amount of times during that first labor experience. I think for me that was worse than the actual labor, just feeling such a total loss of personal privacy. I also felt a bit self conscious about having the nurse and doc watching me after delivery for that first latch/nursing attempt. Just my experience. Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 In a message dated 7/6/99 7:50:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, MJplus5@... writes: << having the nurse and doc watching me after delivery for that first latch/nursing attempt. >> the nurse held my boob and rubbed cades face with it!!!!!!! he didnt/couldnt nurse for a few days though, so it was unsuccesful. but still.. i didnt feel i needed help and i hadnt asked--oh well!! better than no help atall! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 1999 Report Share Posted July 7, 1999 In a message dated 7/6/99 10:50:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MJplus5@... writes: << was he ever around another mom bfing and how did he feel about it? >> He was never breastfed, his sister didn't bfd her kids, neither did any of his sil's. I guess I'm the first one. He knows that the breast is best, and even makes sure I eat well and take my vitamins, but he still attaches that sexual stigma to it. Drives me nuts!! I think I will ask him to eat in the bedroom, and watch the reaction on his face. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 1999 Report Share Posted July 7, 1999 In a message dated 7/6/99 9:50:41 PM Central Daylight Time, MJplus5@... writes: << I think for me that was worse than the actual labor, just feeling such a total loss of personal privacy. >> All the looking and probing didn't bother me in the least. In fact the first time I ever met 's Ped I was sitting on the toliet having a nice sitz bath he knocked on the door and I said Come In He came in and said Oh I will come back later hehehehe Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 1999 Report Share Posted July 7, 1999 That was one of the great things about my homebirth. No poking, no prodding. They checked me internally only at my request and barely bothered me at all. Zaid didn't get poked either. I didn't have to give up my privacy at all. Wendi Re: milk banks etc. From: Feb98@... In a message dated 7/6/99 9:50:41 PM Central Daylight Time, MJplus5@... writes: << I think for me that was worse than the actual labor, just feeling such a total loss of personal privacy. >> All the looking and probing didn't bother me in the least. In fact the first time I ever met 's Ped I was sitting on the toliet having a nice sitz bath he knocked on the door and I said Come In He came in and said Oh I will come back later hehehehe Amy --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 1999 Report Share Posted July 7, 1999 In a message dated 7/6/99 3:00:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, NFLI4U@... writes: << think he's just jealous that my body does incredible things, and his just sits in front of the computer and holds his head up!!! >> That was too funny ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 1999 Report Share Posted July 8, 1999 In a message dated 7/7/99 1:19:02 AM Central Daylight Time, Phawxsee@... writes: << the nurse held my boob and rubbed cades face with it!!!!!!! >> Allli- I had the same exact thing happen to me. They brought Davian into the room and once I opened up my gown the nurse just started rubbing his face with my boob. I HAD been modest up until then LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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