Re: Malic acid legal?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I don't know the answer to that question, but I'll send it to the

moderators' list and see if somebody does.

Sue (From Pickering)

Mom to , 4.5, formerly? ASD, started SCD March '03

and , 2.5, NT

[Guest guest]

" Malic acid is mainly found in apples, peaches, pears, etc. [b3].

Some yeasts and bacteria can metabolize it. Malo-lactic fermentation,

due to bacteria, turns malic acid into lactic acid (sensory

threshold: 400 p.p.m. [b10]). Lactic acid being less acidic than

malic acid, the result will taste less acidic. This phenomenon is

used to improve the quality of acidic wines. "

http://tinyurl.com/2cz7g

low copper, chromium, thyroid minerals like iodine, zinc selenium and

manganese can cause low energy

i have taken magnesium malate, its ok but a bit laxative and maybe

fermenting i'd say. dunno that i am that keen on it except

occasionally, it does give an energy boost but suspect it is scd

illegal.

you would find a hair test useful.

the source naturals magnesium chelate i have found best but it has

cellulose gum in and that is illegal. magensium helps build digestive

enzymes.

> Is malic acid, derived from apples, legal? (It's not pectin, and

> isn't on the supplements list or the legal/illegal foods list.)

It's

> in my Pro Energy magnesium supplement for CFS, and I would like to

use

> it up if it's legal. We've been on SCD 6 months and our energy is

> flagging instead of increasing.

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > Is malic acid, derived from apples, legal? (It's not pectin, and

> > isn't on the supplements list or the legal/illegal foods list.)

> It's

> > in my Pro Energy magnesium supplement for CFS, and I would like to

> use

> > it up if it's legal. We've been on SCD 6 months and our energy is

> > flagging instead of increasing.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

i don't think your mineral supplementation is being very effective,

apprently legal things like collodial minerals feed yeast in a

similar manner to garden fertiliser. the whole area of legal/illegal

with repect to supplements needs reworking or just distancing from

scd since the issues are so complex and do not compelety relate to

scd.

i have a page on mineral supplementation 'minerals i take' in the

index of

http://mueller_ranges.tripod.com/links/compendium/compendium.html

oddly you seem to have cut out the link that gave what seemed a

reasonable explanation of malic acid.

http://tinyurl.com/2cz7g

i think malic acid is an organic acid and this is different form

suagrs but still digestable by bacteria. what would be interesting to

know is how acceptable the breakdown product of malic acid, 'lactic

acid' is to scd.

> > > Is malic acid, derived from apples, legal? (It's not pectin,

and

> > > isn't on the supplements list or the legal/illegal foods

list.)

> > It's

> > > in my Pro Energy magnesium supplement for CFS, and I would like

to

> > use

> > > it up if it's legal. We've been on SCD 6 months and our energy

is

> > > flagging instead of increasing.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> > > > Is malic acid, derived from apples, legal? (It's not pectin,

> and

> > > > isn't on the supplements list or the legal/illegal foods

> list.)

[Guest guest]

it really pays to get a hair test to see whats what with mineral

supplementation

there are likely mineral issues since fermented veges are quite high

in yeast i think and problems with yeast are an indication of zinc

and other minerals being needed

copper sebacate is the only inorganic mineral i have found

satisfactory the rest have to be chelates of various sorts

i don't think i am that keen on malate

> > > > > Is malic acid, derived from apples, legal? (It's not

pectin,

> > and

> > > > > isn't on the supplements list or the legal/illegal foods

> > list.)