weight loss

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In a message dated 6/29/99 1:36:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

barbotto@... writes:

<< In fact, bf moms need more calories

than pregnant moms. >>

I am sure we are all eating MORE calories then we NEED to be in order to

produce enough good milk. I can't remember the amout but I think it was 1500

for a normal woman 1700 for pregnant and 1900 for breastfeeding. I THINK!!!!!!

So make sure you not eating more then you need and you can exercise in your

house get yourself richard simmons he will make you sweat.

Amy

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,

I can't give any specific advice about weight loss as I need that myself.

I can tell you that the greatest service you can do for yourself and Angel

is to learn to accept your body the way it is. If you need more exercise

than work on getting it, but allowing your body image to run your life is

asking for trouble. I have struggled with this for so long and that is how

I know. When I was the thinnest in my life I felt horrible about myself.

My body ran my life and it was all that I based everything on. My

happiness depended on how I saw myself in the mirror each day. When I

thought I looked bad, I felt bad too. This type of thinking really takes a

toll. You become so dependent on your outside image that it stands in the

way of accomplishing goals. Your body will NEVER be like it was when you

were 16 and had no children. That is something that needs to be accepted.

If you can learn to be proud of who you are no matter what you look like

on the outside, you can give Angel the greatest gift of her life. If you

can teach her that it is what's inside that is important not whether or not

you have fat rolls, than she will be able to go far. I know how hard it is

to not be pleased with the body you have. Try to do what you can to get

yourself healthier, but don't sacrafice breastfeeding or your health for an

image in a mirror. You are so beautiful and have so much going for you

don't let all that go chasing after a phantom.

Wendi

Weight Loss

HELP!

I need to lose some weight BIG TIME!! I have decided I want to continue

breastfeeding even though I know that one I stop my weight will just " come

off " . I feel like crap being so heavy. I am depressed. I went to the market

and bought lots of veggies. I am joining this MOMS club that walks 2 miles

every friday morning. I really have time to go to a gym, I don't live in an

area that I can walking in and during the day my hubby needs the car for

work so I cannot drive somewhere to walk. What kinds of diets can I go on.

Can I go on low fat or low carb diets?? What can I do around my house? I am

gonna talk to my doc and see what he says about the whole thing at Angel's

next appt. Angel is almost 4 months now and is on ceral and I have started

to introduce some stage on solids. I know that breastfeeding less with help

me lose weight but I don't want to wean and I don't want to supplement with

formula.I have even used only breastmilk in her ceral!! With my son I

didn't produce enough milk for that =(**

So C'mon you skinny minny's on the list, SHARE! Obisously breastfeeding to

lose weight is just another old wives tale.

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If you're interested in exercise videotapes (the best thing I have found,

since with 3 kids I am unable to make it to the gym myself), I recommend

(if you like dancing and country music) the aerobic country line dancing

videos. They are lots of fun and you can keep up with the current dances

- for that once in a lifetime chance when you actually get out of the

house w/o kids to have some fun!!

Vicki - USMC wife to SSgt Head 2nd LAR Camp LeJeune NC & SAHM to CJ

(2/6/91), Jaclyn (2/24/95), and (4/23/99)

On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:03:52 EDT Feb98@... writes:

>From: Feb98@...

>

>In a message dated 6/29/99 1:36:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

>barbotto@... writes:

>

><< In fact, bf moms need more calories

> than pregnant moms. >>

>

>I am sure we are all eating MORE calories then we NEED to be in order

>to

>produce enough good milk. I can't remember the amout but I think it

>was 1500

>for a normal woman 1700 for pregnant and 1900 for breastfeeding. I

>THINK!!!!!!

>

>So make sure you not eating more then you need and you can exercise in

>your

>house get yourself richard simmons he will make you sweat.

>

>Amy

>

>---------------------------

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I second everything Wendi says. I too have battled weight gain my

entire adult life. Acceptance can be difficult. Concentrate on the

fabulous thing you are doing for your baby. Reread the posts on

formula bearing in mind that that is only the tip of the iceberg.

While it is true that bf increases your appetite the reason is that it

takes calories to make. An oz of bm contains 20 calories plus you burn

some during production, so in theory if you are able to reduce your

caloric intake you will lose weight. I don' think you burn too many

calories mixing formula and pouring it into a bottle. So you see, by

bf you are actually ahead. The hard part is curbing the appetite. Bf

makes me really, really hungry. In fact, bf moms need more calories

than pregnant moms.

The best place to go for help with weight loss is Weight Watchers.

Their program is the only one I know of recommended for bf moms. Their

programs focus on real food not some gimmick or drug. Give your local

chapter a call. They are in the phone book.

FYI--the recommendations of most peds for starting foods with bf babies

is 6 months. FF babies start cereal at 4 months for extra iron which a

bf baby doesn't need. Are you sure you are not starting foods too

early? I mention this because early introduction has been linked to

food allergies down the road.

One last thing , FF babies have more weight problems as adults

than bf babies. Do what you can to save your daughter this heartache,

keep breeastfeeding!

--- " A. " wrote:

> HELP!

> I need to lose some weight BIG TIME!! I have decided

> I want to continue breastfeeding even though I know

> that one I stop my weight will just " come off " . I

> feel like crap being so heavy. I am depressed. I

> went to the market and bought lots of veggies. I am

> joining this MOMS club that walks 2 miles every

> friday morning. I really have time to go to a gym, I

> don't live in an area that I can walking in and

> during the day my hubby needs the car for work so I

> cannot drive somewhere to walk. What kinds of diets

> can I go on. Can I go on low fat or low carb diets??

> What can I do around my house? I am gonna talk to my

> doc and see what he says about the whole thing at

> Angel's next appt. Angel is almost 4 months now and

> is on ceral and I have started to introduce some

> stage on solids. I know that breastfeeding less with

> help me lose weight but I don't want to wean and I

> don't want to supplement with formula.I have even

> used only breastmilk in her ceral!! With my son I

> didn't produce enough milk for that =(**

> So C'mon you skinny minny's on the list, SHARE!

> Obisously breastfeeding to lose weight is just

> another old wives tale.

>

>

>

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In a message dated 6/29/99 11:36:57 PM !!!First Boot!!!, angehowe@...

writes:

<< I

gained 35 pounds when I was pregnant with him, lost *3* after delivering >>

When I gave birth to my first, I gained about 27-28 lbs and thought, " wow,

I'm doin great, this weight will come right off with the baby " . LOL was I in

for a suprise when the scale showed me that I still had close to 20 lbs to

lose after giving birth. Joan

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,

I'm like you and lose the weight once I wean. When was still

nursing at 17 months and I found out I was pregnant, she had already cut

back her nursing schedule and I was dropping 5-8 pounds a month with no

effort. It was wonderful. Just the slowed schedule was helping my

weight. But it was for nothing since I was pregnant to boot!

is now 17 months and is nursing way more than did at this age, so

I'm still overweight. I'm not talking about a little padding... I was a

size 5/7 when I got pregnant with , and a 14 when I had him. I

gained 35 pounds when I was pregnant with him, lost *3* after delivering

a 9 pounder, and only lost maybe 10 more in the next year or so. When I

got pregnant with , and then , it all just added up. I'm

still a 14 or a 16 and it just kills me to look in a mirror. I remember

taking size 9 velvet sweats to the hospital to wear home after

was born and being genuinely shocked when I had to send DH home for some

of his sweats.

I have also gotten to the point where I would rather spend these few

years (it's been 5 now) overweight and work it off later (I'll have way

more than 5) and let my children get the best possible start in life

that I can give them. I figure their health outrates my waistline for

now.

Since is old enough that if anything happened to my supply, he

could survive *G*, I have started going to aerobics at the gym. I'm

getting that 5-8 pounds a month, but with alot of effort. I do know

that theoretically, more calories are spent if a muscle needs them than

if fat needs them. In other words, the more muscle you have on your

body, the more calories you will burn. You could do some

toning/strengthening exercises at home -- with , too -- and start

adding back some muscles. Do arm/shoulder/back exercises using canned

food as weights.

If you include , maybe put on a CD of silly songs and work out

together to it. Do some jumping jacks. Kids are fascinated to try to

master that one! Do some simple leg lifts and have see how many

he can do with you. That's a great time to start counting. Just do

sets of " four " and he will catch on while you won't be focused on making

it to any specific number... like 100, or 20. You will also be

teaching him rhythm, not to mention eye-hand coordination and large

motor skills... all while getting a little exercise.

As for the old wives tale and weight loss while breastfeeding... it's

not a myth. Some people get the benefit and some don't... just like

some babies get the benefit of breastmilk's protection of food allergies

and some don't. But then, if you're eating peanut butter or chocolate,

or both, every day, you're sabotaging yourself anyways!!

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In a message dated 6/29/99 1:07:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

naturebaby@... writes:

<< You are so beautiful and have so much going for you

don't let all that go chasing after a phantom.

Wendi >>

Wendi,

Beautifully said as usual!! : )

Dana : )

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Hi Amber,

Well, I wouldn't worry about the weight loss for now--it took you 9

months to gain the weights--so it seems reasonable that it would take 9

months to lose it. You might maintain some of the weight til you stop

nursing--then it will probably drop off very easily. When my daughter

weaned I lost the extra 10 lbs without even trying.

For drastic weight loss--I recommend the " window cleaning " diet " <g> My DH

and I own/operate a window cleaning business--and last summer when he was

ill, I took over doing it myself--4 days a week/weekly/3 months straight

in July/Aug/Sept of 98--I lost 20 lbs in 2 weeks and another 5 lbs over

the next month or so and maintained it. I was finally back in

jeans/slacks I hadn't worn in years--and that December got pregnant again

(acccident/blessing). So I figure that if I feel like it takes too long

to lose the weight when Lexi is weaned--I'll contact a couple of friends

of ours who are window cleaners and go out with them in the summer

heat<g> I'd leave the house before 6 AM--miracle for me--and be home

usually by 3 or so. I worked inside malls and outside a bit in the heat.

And I did stay hydrated, etc.<g>

So, for drastic results this can work fine--and you can pick up cash on

the side also<ggg>

W.

Tx

scnw@...

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Kurt Here... Hello...

I have been skinny all my life and believe this RP has been with me since I

was six years old. Like , I gain when on prednisone (40 Mgs will get you

30 lbs). When off prednisone, the weight disappears dramatically. I ride a

tour bike about 3 times a week (when the Northeast weather permits) for about

an hour each time and this may be part of my being skinny (5' 7'', 150 lbs.),

but I ride the bike more in hopes that it counters the effects of or helps

reverse the RP. People I work with notice when I come off prednisone ( " like

magic the weight is gone " ).

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,

I do not add in the 30+ I gained in the hospital. I think since it's

only temporary it would be like getting weighed with army boots on. Now

WHO would do that?

Beth

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:51:35 EST DAVIDRALAN@... writes:

> When posting our weight is everyone going by there weight before

> they go

> into the hospital. Is it the weight that they come out of the

> hospital with?

> Because I personally gained 12lbs in the hospital and have not been

> adding

> that into my total weight loss. Thank you

>

>

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I go by my last weight when I weighed in at the surgeons office. I haven't

a clue what I weighed the day of surgery...I'm guessing a heck of a lot

more!

Dawn

Re: weight loss

,

I do not add in the 30+ I gained in the hospital. I think since it's

only temporary it would be like getting weighed with army boots on. Now

WHO would do that?

Beth

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:51:35 EST DAVIDRALAN@... writes:

> When posting our weight is everyone going by there weight before

> they go

> into the hospital. Is it the weight that they come out of the

> hospital with?

> Because I personally gained 12lbs in the hospital and have not been

> adding

> that into my total weight loss. Thank you

>

>

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Weight Watchers and IE... that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one..

Meg

IE Since Feb '08

> >

> > From: latoyajw <latoyajw@>

> > Subject: Re: weight loss

> > To: IntuitiveEating_Support

> > Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 10:43 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The subject of weight loss with IE has come up many times on this

> > group. With all of the crazy diet commercials on TV this month,

I've

> > been thinking more about the whole idea of weight gain and

weight

> loss.

> >

> > I don't believe that weight gain is inevitable while practicing

IE.

> I

> > believe that another group member posted recently about how she

> hasn't

> > gained or lost and that's been mostly my experience as well. IE

has

> > helped me learn and experience the balanced place of not gaining

and

> > not losing...which parallels the maintenance phase that many

people

> > attempt to get to and often fail to maintain after a diet.

> >

> > For me, what's been vitally important while I make peace with

food,

> > respond to my hunger, feel satisfied, and work with my emotions

has

> > been finding a love for or connection to daily or regular

movement

> of

> > my body. I'm a food user whose had a relatively sedentary

lifestyle,

> > so I've consistently taken in more calories than my body burns

in a

> > day, which has resulted in weight gain over the years. So, I had

to

> be

> > really real with myself about that fact that weight gain would

be a

> > constant experience in my life if I didn't develop an intuitive

> > understanding of movement. So, in parallel to practicing

intuitive

> > eating, I've been discovering intuitive movement as well...what

> > movement I will actually do, what ways I love moving my body, and

> > making movement a priority in my life. For me, movement is one

way

> > that helps transform/use the excess energy in terms of pounds

that

> I'm

> > holding. Though, I'm committed to moving for fun, balance, and

my

> body

> > and burning calories just happens to be one effect of that

process.

> >

> > We find our " natural " or balanced weight by paying attention to

and

> > following the wisdom of our body, which is so well honored in

the IE

> > principles. Most of us are so used to trying to manipulate our

> bodies

> > and induce weight loss through diets and " exercise. " And for me,

> I've

> > discovered that any strong focus on weight loss takes away from

my

> > real issues and what I need to learn and practice to experience

> > balance in my life: how to take care of myself (without

> automatically

> > using food) and respecting and responding to my body's

fundamental

> > need to move regularly. I believe that I will experience a

balanced

> > weight by giving energy and effort to these two areas. So, my

> question

> > for you is what are the areas in your life that have contributed

to

> > imbalance in your body?

> >

> > What's fabulous is that the 10 IE principles, pretty much

address

> the

> > typical areas of imbalance most of us have experienced with our

> bodies

> > in this culture. For me honoring my hunger and fullness, dealing

> with

> > my emotions in others ways besides using food, and moving in

joyful

> > ways will help me experience the balanced and sane life that I

want

> to

> > live.

> >

> > Latoya

> >

>

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I have to agree with this... I have looked up the WW program online,

out of curiosity, and counting points is no different than other

programs that involve counting calories, counting carbs, or counting

fat. And, in fact, what goes into the calculation of points involves

counting of calories, fat, and fiber! They just put it into one

formula and set a point value per food based on the formula. So, in

essence, doing Weight Watchers is like counting three variables at

once. I found a points calculator online, and was shocked by how

ridiculous some of the values were for certain foods. I don't want to

get into specific numbers here, as I feel that that's unhelpful; but I

felt that Weight Watchers was in many ways even more harsh than the

restrictive diets I have put myself on in the past, and given that I

was once diagnosed with EDNOS (all criteria for AN except that my BMI

was slightly too high), that's saying something.

Weight Watchers is NOT a lifestyle choice, as they claim it to be on

TV, and it certainly isn't intuitive eating. If you've used all your

points for the day and you're still hungry, you " shouldn't " have

anything else. And if you've used all your flex points AND your daily

points and you're STILL hungry, you actually CAN'T have anything else.

I'm sorry, but that screams " diet " and " restriction " to me. And the

fact that most of your food must by default be very high fiber and low

fat is also extremely restrictive.

To make this long story short: I hate WW, and I hate the diet

mentality it helps to impose on people who honestly believe that WW is

a " healthy lifestyle choice " . It is NOT. It's a diet that they

MASQUERADE as a healthy lifestyle choice, in order to GET OUR MONEY

and keep people bound to them for as long as they possibly can. The

moguls of WW are still moguls, and their priority is still our money

and our devotion... and they're starting to learn all the right words

to say to get us to believe their propaganda.

Carolyn

> >

> > Hi Kathy,

> >

> > congrats on reaching your healthy weight. I was in the ww program

> on

> > and off for 5 years. Personally, if i were to rejoin the program

> > now, while trying to learn IE, i think it would detract from my IE

> > pursuit. I don't have anything against the program- i think it

> > attempts to address emotional eating and hunger signals- but it's

> > still a diet and restricts food intake/food choices. Restricting

> > food intake goes against the principles of IEing.

> >

> > Also, in my meetings, the discussions among members was

> very " good "

> > food " bad " food, i was " bad " this week, " i gained 0.2 lbs this

> > week " , " I only lost 0.6 lbs this week " . I don't want to be around

> > those types of comments right now.

> >

> > Hope this helps...

> >

> > Gerda

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You SAID it Carolyn!! Applauding you :)

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

> >

> > Weight Watchers and IE... that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one..

> >

> >

> > Meg

> > IE Since Feb '08

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Am tired of beating myself up when I gain weight. I just quit smoking. I feel like I am a superwoman after that feat. If I can do that, maybe my body will show me how to do this. I appreciate all support as that is how I quit.

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,

 

Congratulations on quitting smoking!!! That's AMAZING!!!

 

How long ago did you stop smoking?

 

I know a lot of people gain weight after they quit smoking, so i think it would be good to be prepared for that... smoking is WAAAAAY worse for you than weight gain!!!.... but not everyone does gain weight...

 

but definitely give yourself lots of pats on the back!

 

and welcome!

 

abby

Am tired of beating myself up when I gain weight.  I just quit smoking.  I feel like I am a superwoman after that feat.  If I can do that, maybe my body will show me how to do this.  I appreciate all support as that is how I quit.

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Congrats on the  no more smoking!!    I think, like just about any group who no longer wishes to diet, its a matter of getting more in touch with your body's needs, listening to when its really hungry and when it isn't, learning more about what the body really needs to feel truly fed and all the nutrients needed for a healthier body, getting emotional situations either under control or handled, and learning how to take small steps at a time or one thing at a time.   LynSubject: weight lossTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date:

Saturday, April 25, 2009, 4:55 PM

Am tired of beating myself up when I gain weight.  I just quit smoking.  I feel like I am a superwoman after that feat.  If I can do that, maybe my body will show me how to do this.  I appreciate all support as that is how I quit.