Re: keto question- Deneesa

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Hi Deneesa,

Welcome to the list, lots of good people here to help you along...

If you are having trouble getting Hannah's ketones to stay up higher (bear

in mind tho' that some kiddies do well on just moderate - not all can handle

the high level of ketosis), it may be a calorie issue, possibly too many? Or

meals not spaced appropriately to her activity times?

Otherwise, if blood sugar rises, this can often bring ketones down - and

this is common when dealing with an infection, glucose rises in response to

the infection. Is she well and truly over that yet? If not, it may be a

waiting period until she is fully well again.

The last thing, which I think Patti (?) mentioned, was that if calories are

on the other hand, set too low, a defence type mechanism can kick in,

whereby the body startes producing it's own glucose to compensate for

dietary insufficiency, but as far as I know, this tends to happen after a

slightly longer period of time than you are talking here.

Urine ketones do often test higher at night than in the morning, basically I

think because the body is not as active, not as much caloric fat is

therefore being burned to produce ketones. And yes, dilution of urine can

affect how the levels appear, after a month in hospital recently with

and very regular blood ketone testing, I can honestly say that urine ketones

are SO not as accurate as they need to be.

I would suggest trying glucose testing at home to make sure this is not

interfering with ketone production, as well as discussing this further with

your dietician - Hannah IS having seizures now, so she does need to look

closer at what could be going on with ketones, calories etc. What ratio is

she on btw?

Does Hannah have many meds on board? Toxicity can occur at about this stage,

the metabolism on the diet is different, med levels can therefore be

affected. Toxicity can definitely bring about seizures.

Hill in NZ

> my daughter is new to the keto diet - two weeks; we went home with

moderate

> ketones; When I aske dietician about this, she said as long as Hannah was

not

> having seizures this was O.K.; Well she started having seizures -

probabely

> due to a urinary tract infection; Now I want to get her ketones up to

large

> and make sure they stay there - or we will never really know if the diet

> works for my daughter; ANy insight?? also it seems as if her ketones

test

> diffferently at different times during the day and night? When do most

> people test?? I know I have heard that urine concentration makes a

> difference; ANy input as to why her ketones seem to want to stay in

moderate

> range?????? Did this happen to anyone?? Please help?? Thanks, Deneesa,

> Hannah's mommy

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Meds could be interfering. Excess body fat can also do it. Is she skinny,

average or above average for weight? She could also just be getting too many

calories (even if she's thin)....... or, as another parent or two around here

found out recently, not enough or too little protein. If they aren't getting the

correct amount of protein, it can throw things off. Are you using mostly cream

for her fat? Supplementing with flax oil (as part of the fat allowance) can help

boost ketones, so say some of our parents. I have found coconut oil does, too.

Tell me more about her ...... what ratio, protein, what's her weight like, etc.

Patti, mom to Katera (former Keto Kid) and list moderator.

Re: keto question- Deneesa

my daughter is new to the keto diet - two weeks; we went home with moderate

ketones; When I aske dietician about this, she said as long as Hannah was not

having seizures this was O.K.; Well she started having seizures - probabely

due to a urinary tract infection; Now I want to get her ketones up to large

and make sure they stay there - or we will never really know if the diet

works for my daughter; ANy insight?? also it seems as if her ketones test

diffferently at different times during the day and night? When do most

people test?? I know I have heard that urine concentration makes a

difference; ANy input as to why her ketones seem to want to stay in moderate

range?????? Did this happen to anyone?? Please help?? Thanks, Deneesa,

Hannah's mommy