Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Here's a good question for a poll: How many " 2's " know that one or both parents smoked around the time you were concieved?? Is this crazy? It just seems like a lot of fellow " 2's " have had parents who smoked or still smoke. It could be a coincidence. na (just something I've wondered about) Re: Nicotine effects I'm sure you wont get the type of answers you are looking for. My tumors all formed when I was a smoker or before. The took off like wildfire in late teens and I smoked. The tumors I have now are all regrowths of them but supposedly under control. ;-)))))))))))))) Rosemary Lee wrote: > Reduces estrogen levels, . > > > > I REPEAT am just asking if anybody else has any CLINICAL( AS OPPOSED TO > physical/social/moral) observations about the effects on TUMORS of taking > up/giving up NICOTINE . > > Not asking anybody if SMOKING is a good health move......just like I don't > need to ask if drinking copious amounts of soda, eating junk food, etc etc, > is a good health move..... I know those answers, and I understand also that > some people choose to do so, knowing the potential risks, and others are > ignorant or choose to remain ignorant, whatever.....it is supposedly a free > world. > > Please try to separate the issues. Last post on digest is your response to > mine(haven't got next digest), so don't want to see this thread go into a > social/moral/physical debate about smoking... > > The effects of nicotine ingestion is a separate issue......for eg. nicotine > reduces the impact of diabetes type 2(from memory again, so don't trust > me!!!) But nobody is saying that diabetics should take up smoking...ok, > clear? I hope so. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 My father did. Carol RE: Nicotine effects Here's a good question for a poll: How many "2's" know that one or both parents smoked around the time you were concieved?? Is this crazy? It just seems like a lot of fellow "2's" have had parents who smoked or still smoke. It could be a coincidence. na (just something I've wondered about) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 I understand what you are saying. Not being a scientist I cant really even speculate how our genes get mutated. My mom smoked up til she gave birth to me too (my dad was so peeved at her for that). my brother was born with a very rare heart condition and had a twin who died of it. bro had open heart surgery at 16 to correct it. who knows. My thinking was (and I was referring to spontaneous mutations) that its a > miracle that so much DOESN'T go wrong from the time the sperm enters the egg > until birth. We know that smoking may cause low birth weight and premature > babies (and whatever else) but what if the nicotine caused the defect in the > gene? > > I'm not pointing a finger ( " Here's the cause!!! " ) it was just a fleeting > thought. I'm sorry to all the parents on the Crew who are already thinking > " What did I do to cause this? " As said, its only speculation. > > > Re: Nicotine effects > > > you areborn withnf2 in your genes, nothing can give it to you, but Id bet > some > things may make it more or less severe, then again, maybe not. > > > > Good work there Gillian. Too many people smoked to say if it has any effect > > on NF2. You would need some kind of control group for that analysis. The > > doctors seem to say that you are born with NF2 and there are no > > environmental factors involved. This could be true. Then again, perhaps > > there are no KNOWN environmental factors. But it's not fair to say that > > smoking did this to us. > > > > It is true smoking does not do you any good. But there are tons of other > > things like air quality and stuff that may even be more important to your > > health. We take in air day in and day out. > > > > > > > > RE: Nicotine effects > > > > > > > > > > Here's a good question for a poll: How many " 2's " know that one or > both > > > > parents smoked around the time you were concieved?? Is this crazy? > It > > > just > > > > seems like a lot of fellow " 2's " have had parents who smoked or still > > > smoke. > > > > It could be a coincidence. > > > > > > > > na (just something I've wondered about) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Thats a very good point, Gillian. I thought of that too, so I guess we won't know for a few generations whether that is a factor or not. na <glad we have Gillian and around to give us statistics> Re: Nicotine effects Then again, I would think that much of the population has a parent that smoked at some point. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in 1965 52% of men over the age of 18 smoked and 34% of women smoked. By 1999 the numbers dropped to 26% of men and 22% of women. So as a rough statistical estimate, if you were born in 1965, there was a 68% chance that one of your parents smoked (the chances of neither one smoking being 0.48*0.66=32%). If you were born in 1999, the chances drop to 42%. Gillian (who has taken too many statistics courses) RE: Nicotine effects > Here's a good question for a poll: How many " 2's " know that one or both > parents smoked around the time you were concieved?? Is this crazy? It just > seems like a lot of fellow " 2's " have had parents who smoked or still smoke. > It could be a coincidence. > > na (just something I've wondered about) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 Subject: RE: Nicotine effects na, both my parents were smokers at that time. Dad quite when I was 10. Mom was a very heavy smoker, I think she may have cut back some the last five years. Sheryn ______________________________________________________ > Here's a good question for a poll: How many " 2's " know that one or both > parents smoked around the time you were concieved?? Is this crazy? It just > seems like a lot of fellow " 2's " have had parents who smoked or still smoke. > It could be a coincidence. > > na (just something I've wondered about) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 In a message dated 4/18/02 11:14:42 PM !!!First Boot!!!, ncwaldrip@... writes: wrote: > For some reason, my age started to decrease when I > turned 40. >> LOL , ME TOO I turn 29 again April 26th.At my age I only celebrate anniversarys and I am celebrateing,April 26th,my 16th anniversary of my 29th birthday !!!! Lana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 For some reason, my age started to decrease when I turned 40. This year I will be 36. I hope to get into the negative numbers. Re: Nicotine effects > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure you wont get the type of answers you > > are > > > > looking for. My tumors all > > > > formed when I was a smoker or before. The took > > off > > > > like wildfire in late > > > > teens > > > > and I smoked. The tumors I have now are all > > > > regrowths of them but supposedly > > > > under control. > > > > > > > > ;-)))))))))))))) > > > > > > > > Rosemary Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > Reduces estrogen levels, . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I REPEAT am just asking if anybody else has > > any > > > > CLINICAL( AS OPPOSED TO > > > > > physical/social/moral) observations about the > > > > effects on TUMORS of taking > > > > > up/giving up NICOTINE . > > > > > > > > > > Not asking anybody if SMOKING is a good health > > > > move......just like I don't > > > > > need to ask if drinking copious amounts of > > soda, > > > > eating junk food, etc > > > > etc, > > > > > is a good health move..... I know those > > answers, > > > > and I understand also > > > > that > > > > > some people choose to do so, knowing the > > potential > > > > risks, and others are > > > > > ignorant or choose to remain ignorant, > > > > whatever.....it is supposedly a > > > > free > > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > Please try to separate the issues. Last post > > on > > > > digest is your response to > > > > > mine(haven't got next digest), so don't want > > to > > > > see this thread go into a > > > > > social/moral/physical debate about smoking... > > > > > > > > > > The effects of nicotine ingestion is a > > separate > > > > issue......for eg. > > > > nicotine > > > > > reduces the impact of diabetes type 2(from > > memory > > > > again, so don't trust > > > > > me!!!) But nobody is saying that diabetics > > should > > > > take up smoking...ok, > > > > > clear? I hope so. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 --- Fusca wrote: > For some reason, my age started to decrease when I > turned 40. This year I > will be 36. I hope to get into the negative numbers. > > > Well, I ACT 12, so maybe that counts for something. Nate __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2002 Report Share Posted April 18, 2002 ditto. cindy nfmissy100 wrote: > I'm spontanious, and dad smoked. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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