Pre/post Myo orgasm experiences???

[Guest guest]

Hello Group,

It was great to find much sought after info. in the archives about

others'experiences of their orgasms with fibroids!

It's kind of sounding like maybe it depends on the sizes and location

of them, but I welcome any ideas, experiences, or referrals to

pertinent articles etc.

On the other hand, it occurred to me,(and I've never given birth)

that perhaps the presence of anything large enough in the uterus,

including a fetus, would affect the uterus'ability to contract, thus

produce a fuller, more intense orgasm. ~Doesn't that seem logical?

#1 So... previously pregnant women who've had orgasms during late

second and third trimesters, did they become any less intense during

pregnancy and then return to normal relatively soon after childbirth?

When my fibroids were smaller,(they're now grapefruit~plus sizes),

the orgasms were just as wonderfully intense as ever. Now,like one of

you mentioned, I too experience little or no uterine contraction with

mine which brings up my next urgent question:

#2 Is there anyone out there with large fibroids who noticed

decreased pleasure with orgasm before Myomectomy and then discovered

that the intensity of her orgasms returned after the surgery?

If this is the case,I think it will definitely give me extra

incentive and strength about facing my upcoming Myo in just 3 short

weeks!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi , I'm one of the women who have no more

uterine contractions now that my fibroids have gotten

bigger. The first I noticed a difference was about

five years ago when I would have a tiny little painful

twinge with orgasm. Then the contractions just

stopped. I have read in Johanna Skilling's(sp?) book

that uterine contractions return after myomectomy, and

the first gyno I spoke with said that that would be

the case. I haven't really spoken about that issue

with the doctor I finally decided to choose, mainly

because the pressure and pain I'm experiencing have

made my choice to undergo myo surgery pretty clear

cut, to me anyway. I can't remember if it was Johanna

Skilling's book " Fibroids: The Complete Guide to

Taking Charge of Your Physical, Emotional, and Sexual

Well-Being " or her newer book in the " First Year "

series that she mentions the pre and post myo return

of uterine contractions.

I'm having my surgery on the 31st of July, and hoping

for a return of the fireworks I remember from those

days before my belly was overrun by invaders! I think

that idea of pregnancy affecting orgasms makes sense.

When I first complained about the lack of orgasm

intensity to my nurse practitioner and postulated that

maybe it was the fibroids, she said " That doesn't make

sense, because women have orgasms with pregnancy.

Just do some Kegel excercises. " I did a lot of

research, and only found one reference online to the

LACK of contractions with fibroids, and then the book

I mentioned. I did read that after birth many women

take a little bit of time to regain their prebirth

orgasm intensity, I guess it takes time for the uterus

to get back in shape.

Hope this helps, and I will be posting all about my

experience post myo, for sure!

B

S.F.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm just the opposite of what you mentioned. As the fibroids have gotten

bigger, the intensity of my uterine orgasms have gotten bigger as well. Someone

here, Faryl, I think, explained that fibroids are muscular tissue and that

muscle contracts with orgasm therefore sometimes the fibroids add to the total

experience. I'm not having a myo till the fall so I will soon find out if this

changes at all but I never had a problem before the fibroids with intensity.

Geez, if uterine orgasms get any better than this after my myo, I'm in big

trouble!!! LOL

Good luck with your myo,

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Hi --this subject is very interesting to me, too, and I spent some

time looking for studies on this and asking every woman I knew about it

while I was deciding what to do about my fibroids. I actually found a study

that suggested that women with fibroids report more uterine orgasms than

women without. If you search the archives (back in March or April) look for

a post from me titled something like " The impact of hysterectomy on ...).

I'll see if I still have the link and send to you off-list if you want.

LMK.

I'm just guessing, but based on what I've read here on the list, it sounds

like some amount of extra uterine muscles (as in small or moderate size

fibroids) might enhance uterine orgasmic sensitivity, but really large

masses might prevent full orgasm. Just a guess! In my own case, I always

had very intense uterine orgasms and lately I feel like my fibroids have

shrunk. I might have turned the corner into menopause, cuz my periods have

disappeared (from my mouth to goddess' ears!) for a few months. So, that's

great news, but my uterine orgasms are not what they used to be. In fact, I

may not even be having them...I'm having orgasm, but feels very different.

THis is not necessarily a bad thing, as I must admit that I've had some very

intense orgasms that were really more intense than a person needs! I mean,

I would feel the orgasm for hours after in that my uterus felt like it had

just been through a very big experience. Now, I like sex very much, but I

don't need to go around feeling like my uterus just had a shiatsu massage or

a rolfing session, if you know what I mean. Not that there's anything

wrong with that! It's just that I have discovered that maximum intensity

orgasms can mean recovery time on the couch and less intense ones mean " Hey,

wanna go swimming or something? "

Good luck with your research. Hope you will report back. This is important

info, very little discussed. Which is why (plug, plug) we are forming a sex

discussion group. If you are interested, write to me off-list.

Faryl

[Guest guest]

To and Faryl re: orgasms. There's actually been some discussion in

research circles that a fibroid uterus may actually experience stronger orgasms

than a non-fibroid uterus. This has to do with the fact that fibroids are very

vascular -- they take in a lot of blood, have more blood vessels than the

surrounding uterine tissue. As sexual excitement grows, blood engourges the

sexual organs, and helps create " sexual tension " . So more blood vessels, more

engorgement, more sexual tension, better sex. At least that's how I understand

this.

Regarding a lessening of orgasm intensity as we hit menopause -- there are at

least 2 reasons I can think of for this. The first is what Faryl suggested,

that the fibroids are shrinking. Again, smaller fibroids, less blood vessels,

less engorgement, etc. -- less intense orgasms.

The second reason for a lessening of the intensity of orgasm at or right around

menopause would have to do with changing hormone levels -- both estrogen and

testosterone (which women do have though in much smaller amounts than men)

decrease and this affects both libido (the desire for sex) and the actual

experience of sex.

Loss or lowering of estrogen can also result in thinning of the vaginal walls,

which in turn can result in tears from vigorous (or sometimes not so vigorous)

thrusting. This can usually be dealt with locally by using estrogen tablets

that are inserted into the vagina once or twice a week. This form of estrogen

delivery has very little effect on the body -- it remains a pretty local effect.

Best of sex to all, :-)

Leonie

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