Re: Eating....Not Eating

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Hi ,

I am fairly new to this and have been working awhile on IE. I think you deserve a huge pat on the back for just eating when you were hungry yesterday. It's going to take awhile to get the concept of IE instilled in us. I figure at this point in the process, it really doesn't matter what we eat but just learning to eat when we are truly hungry is key right now. Also I've been reading the book "Shrink Yourself" about emotional eating and it really is a great book. I was able to get it from the library. Something that I read yesterday that hit home was a true hunger comes on gradually. An emotional hunger comes on really quick. The book is very worth reading, especially since it sounds like you're dealing with emotional eating right now.

Barbra

Subject: Eating....Not EatingTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 10:03 AM

Hi Everyone ~Yesterday I put out a couple of posts regarding not being hungry much and having a small breakfast and a small lunch. When I felt hunger at dinner time I had a slice of bread with some melted cheddar cheese and then two scoops of ice cream. I felt a polite fullness...so that was all I had. I went to a meeting after that. When I got home around 9:00 I felt hungry....not super hungry, but hungry. I didn't want to eat that late, but remembered listening to the IE tapes that the time of day we are hungry doesn't matter...we should honor our bodies and our hunger.So, I had a few slices of bologna and cheese. I still felt a little hungry so had a little more ice-cream. When I felt comfortably full, I stopped eating. Here's the thing. Even though I was only satisfying my true hunger, I felt very guilty for eating so late and for not eating the best of foods. When I woke up this morning, I was still feeling guilty. I

wasn't hungry for breakfast, but still had coffee and a peanut butter wafer. Again, not the best foods, but worst of all I wasn't really hungry. This guilt is really playing on me now, because even though I'm not hungry, I want to go and punish myself and eat everything in sight. I've done so good and now I'm on the verge of going "out of control". Please help me through this...so that I don't give in to the emotions.I really need some help/support right now.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Barbara ~

I want to get that book. Do you know who the author is?

thanks again.

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> Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 10:03 AM

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> Hi Everyone ~

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> Yesterday I put out a couple of posts regarding not being hungry much and

having a small breakfast and a small lunch. When I felt hunger at dinner time I

had a slice of bread with some melted cheddar cheese and then two scoops of ice

cream. I felt a polite fullness...so that was all I had. I went to a meeting

after that. When I got home around 9:00 I felt hungry....not super hungry, but

hungry. I didn't want to eat that late, but remembered listening to the IE tapes

that the time of day we are hungry doesn't matter...we should honor our bodies

and our hunger.

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> So, I had a few slices of bologna and cheese. I still felt a little hungry so

had a little more ice-cream. When I felt comfortably full, I stopped eating.

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> Here's the thing. Even though I was only satisfying my true hunger, I felt

very guilty for eating so late and for not eating the best of foods. When I woke

up this morning, I was still feeling guilty. I wasn't hungry for breakfast, but

still had coffee and a peanut butter wafer. Again, not the best foods, but worst

of all I wasn't really hungry.

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> This guilt is really playing on me now, because even though I'm not hungry, I

want to go and punish myself and eat everything in sight. I've done so good and

now I'm on the verge of going " out of control " . Please help me through this...so

that I don't give in to the emotions.

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> I really need some help/support right now.

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[Guest guest]

The author is Gould. He also has a website shrinkyourself.com

Subject: Re: Eating....Not EatingTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 11:08 AM

Thanks Barbara ~I want to get that book. Do you know who the author is?thanks again.> > > From: marymurphywork <marymurphywork@ ...>> Subject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Eating....Not Eating> To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.com> Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 10:03 AM> > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone ~> > Yesterday I put out a couple of posts regarding not being hungry much and having a small

breakfast and a small lunch. When I felt hunger at dinner time I had a slice of bread with some melted cheddar cheese and then two scoops of ice cream. I felt a polite fullness...so that was all I had. I went to a meeting after that. When I got home around 9:00 I felt hungry....not super hungry, but hungry. I didn't want to eat that late, but remembered listening to the IE tapes that the time of day we are hungry doesn't matter...we should honor our bodies and our hunger.> > So, I had a few slices of bologna and cheese. I still felt a little hungry so had a little more ice-cream. When I felt comfortably full, I stopped eating. > > Here's the thing. Even though I was only satisfying my true hunger, I felt very guilty for eating so late and for not eating the best of foods. When I woke up this morning, I was still feeling guilty. I wasn't hungry for breakfast, but still had coffee and a peanut butter wafer. Again, not the best

foods, but worst of all I wasn't really hungry. > > This guilt is really playing on me now, because even though I'm not hungry, I want to go and punish myself and eat everything in sight. I've done so good and now I'm on the verge of going "out of control". Please help me through this...so that I don't give in to the emotions.> > I really need some help/support right now.> > >

[Guest guest]

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It's ok...close your eyes, breathe in and out, and relax. You won't and don't

have to do IE perfectly! Consistency and commitment are the keys to IE for me.

It takes a while for a new dominant pattern to get conditioned into our bodies.

You'll respond to your true hunger more and more and learn to respond to

non-hunger in ways without using food more and more. The guilt is an emotional

body signal that your actions didn't live up to your vision and intention for

yourself. The guilt can show you where there's work for you to do to progress to

the next level in transforming your relationship with eating.

And, with each new set of indications/signals of true hunger, we have an

opportunity to respond to that hunger. And when we respond to non-hunger with

food, we have an opportunity to learn about ourselves, to become aware, to love

and care for ourselves in those moments, to plan and practice new ways to

respond to non-hunger in the future...because you will eat when you're not truly

hungry again. And then with the next set of true hunger signals (after an

episode of non-hunger eating), you can continue on your IE path. Consistency and

commitment.

Hugz,

Latoya

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> Hi Everyone ~

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> Yesterday I put out a couple of posts regarding not being hungry much and

having a small breakfast and a small lunch. When I felt hunger at dinner time I

had a slice of bread with some melted cheddar cheese and then two scoops of ice

cream. I felt a polite fullness...so that was all I had. I went to a meeting

after that. When I got home around 9:00 I felt hungry....not super hungry, but

hungry. I didn't want to eat that late, but remembered listening to the IE

tapes that the time of day we are hungry doesn't matter...we should honor our

bodies and our hunger.

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> So, I had a few slices of bologna and cheese. I still felt a little hungry so

had a little more ice-cream. When I felt comfortably full, I stopped eating.

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> Here's the thing. Even though I was only satisfying my true hunger, I felt

very guilty for eating so late and for not eating the best of foods. When I

woke up this morning, I was still feeling guilty. I wasn't hungry for

breakfast, but still had coffee and a peanut butter wafer. Again, not the best

foods, but worst of all I wasn't really hungry.

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> This guilt is really playing on me now, because even though I'm not hungry, I

want to go and punish myself and eat everything in sight. I've done so good and

now I'm on the verge of going " out of control " . Please help me through

this...so that I don't give in to the emotions.

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> I really need some help/support right now.

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[Guest guest]

, what I read in another book suggested that at times like these you say to

yourself - WHO SAYS?!?

Eating 'late' is bad. WHO SAYS? 9 out of 10 times this is a food police, diet

mentality attack and that is what is making you feel guilty. I don't think you

have any reason for feeling guilty for feeding your body when (any time day or

night!) it is hungry! YOU are satisfying your body needs and no one else can

tell you when, where or how much near as well as YOU can. Good job for eating

and I hope you can feel satisfied with doing just that. Keep posting and sharing

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> Hi Everyone ~

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> Yesterday I put out a couple of posts regarding not being hungry much and

having a small breakfast and a small lunch. When I felt hunger at dinner time I

had a slice of bread with some melted cheddar cheese and then two scoops of ice

cream. I felt a polite fullness...so that was all I had. I went to a meeting

after that. When I got home around 9:00 I felt hungry....not super hungry, but

hungry. I didn't want to eat that late, but remembered listening to the IE

tapes that the time of day we are hungry doesn't matter...we should honor our

bodies and our hunger.

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> So, I had a few slices of bologna and cheese. I still felt a little hungry so

had a little more ice-cream. When I felt comfortably full, I stopped eating.

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> Here's the thing. Even though I was only satisfying my true hunger, I felt

very guilty for eating so late and for not eating the best of foods. When I

woke up this morning, I was still feeling guilty. I wasn't hungry for

breakfast, but still had coffee and a peanut butter wafer. Again, not the best

foods, but worst of all I wasn't really hungry.

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> This guilt is really playing on me now, because even though I'm not hungry, I

want to go and punish myself and eat everything in sight. I've done so good and

now I'm on the verge of going " out of control " . Please help me through

this...so that I don't give in to the emotions.

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> I really need some help/support right now.

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[Guest guest]

, the real problem seemed to be when you woke up and decided that you would eat when not really hungry. Also, you feel bad that you didn't choose the best of foods the night before and you ate late, is that right?I think you did pretty good to eat when you were hungry, rather than be uncomfortable about being hungry. For me, this is a very difficult situation so I can't tell you what to do. As far as eating so late, I am learning from bitter experience that I cannot eat much before I go to sleep. If I must eat, it needs to be only enough to satisfy me. Since I have a fear that milk or dairy will curdle because I'm sleeping, I need to think of what to eat before I go to sleep if I get hungry. It could be a thin slice of bagel w/maybe some low fat cottage cheese. I think a full cheese would not be good for me. Maybe even a thin slice 1/2 bagel with

some apple slices on top of it could do the trick also.<<Here's the thing. Even though I was only satisfying my true hunger, I

felt very guilty for eating so late and for not eating the best of

foods. When I woke up this morning, I was still feeling guilty. I

wasn't hungry for breakfast, but still had coffee and a peanut butter

wafer. Again, not the best foods, but worst of all I wasn't really

hungry.>>, I am working on waiting until I'm hungry to eat, especially in the morning. Is there a reason you ate anyway, without being hungry? sometimes I know it's hard if you have to go to work, etc.

<<This guilt is really playing on me now, because even though I'm not

hungry, I want to go and punish myself and eat everything in sight.>>Yeah ... I guess it's because you feel like you've given up.<<I've done so good and now I'm on the verge of going "out of control".

Please help me through this...so that I don't give in to the emotions.>>Well, I'm a little late because I have not been reading everything and I've been tired today, but how are you doing? Cindi

[Guest guest]

Hi !

What helped me with the guilt of eating late was the realization that our bodies don’t like to multitask. Maybe you just didn’t have time for your body to focus on the food until late – it sounds like you were busy and maybe thinking about something else subconsciously. I find that if I have a busy day full of stuff going on, I don’t feel physical hunger until late at night and I often won’t eat dinner until 11 or later. That sounds terrible to a frequent dieter, but I find that I am happier and more at ease this way when I can actually breathe and taste my food. I don’t know if that helps or not, but you could try pointing out to yourself that it is a good thing to listen to your body because it lives with itself everyday and knows what works best for it, you just have to trust it and follow its directions.

Oh, and when I want to eat everything in sight to punish myself, I like to have a large cup of tea with a bit of milk and sweetener, and I just focus on enjoying that for the time it takes to drink it – usually around ten minutes, and I find that helps me regain some perspective on the situation.

I hope that something here is helpful for you, and good luck!!

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> Hi Everyone ~

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> Yesterday I put out a couple of posts regarding not being hungry much and having a small breakfast and a small lunch. When I felt hunger at dinner time I had a slice of bread with some melted cheddar cheese and then two scoops of ice cream. I felt a polite fullness...so that was all I had. I went to a meeting after that. When I got home around 9:00 I felt hungry....not super hungry, but hungry. I didn't want to eat that late, but remembered listening to the IE tapes that the time of day we are hungry doesn't matter...we should honor our bodies and our hunger.

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> So, I had a few slices of bologna and cheese. I still felt a little hungry so had a little more ice-cream. When I felt comfortably full, I stopped eating.

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> Here's the thing. Even though I was only satisfying my true hunger, I felt very guilty for eating so late and for not eating the best of foods. When I woke up this morning, I was still feeling guilty. I wasn't hungry for breakfast, but still had coffee and a peanut butter wafer. Again, not the best foods, but worst of all I wasn't really hungry.

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> This guilt is really playing on me now, because even though I'm not hungry, I want to go and punish myself and eat everything in sight. I've done so good and now I'm on the verge of going " out of control " . Please help me through this...so that I don't give in to the emotions.

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> I really need some help/support right now.

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[Guest guest]

Cindi, have you read either the IE book or Overcoming Overeating? Both of these

go into legalizing of foods, neither suggesting that one 'get rid of

questionable substances' or 'everything that tempts you'. If you have read

these, perhaps if you post your questions/doubts, others can reply with their

insights which might be helpful for you.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> My body tells me that eating a lot before I go to bed makes me very

uncomfortable. I can't sleep well. When I don't eat much before I go to bed I

get a better night's sleep, I don't have acid reflux. I still don't understand

about legalizing foods, though, in terms of taking questionable substances into

the house. I'm thinking that if I get rid of everything that tempts me beyond

endurance I might be better off. What do you think? Cindi

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CINDI ~

I agree with Katcha.

Though I'm new to IE (only about 2 months), I bring all the foods I think are a

problem to me, in large numbers, to my home, like IE says to do. The main thing

is that we have to heal our relationship with food and if we still consider

certain foods a no-no or bad, then we are still holding on to the diet

mentality...and not really healing and learning, and becoming natural with our

bodies hunger/fullness/desires.

Once we heal our relationship...which will be longer for some, shorter for

others, the rest will come naturally. Then we can start chosing the foods we

want and don't want without issues.

Regards,

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> > Yesterday I put out a couple of posts regarding not being hungry much and

having a small breakfast and a small lunch. When I felt hunger at dinner time I

had a slice of bread with some melted cheddar cheese and then two scoops of ice

cream. I felt a polite fullness...so that was all I had. I went to a meeting

after that. When I got home around 9:00 I felt hungry....not super hungry, but

hungry. I didn't want to eat that late, but remembered listening to the IE

tapes that the time of day we are hungry doesn't matter...we should honor our

bodies and our hunger.

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so had a little more ice-cream. When I felt comfortably full, I stopped eating.

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> > Here's the thing. Even though I was only satisfying my true hunger, I felt

very guilty for eating so late and for not eating the best of foods. When I

woke up this morning, I was still feeling guilty. I wasn't hungry for

breakfast, but still had coffee and a peanut butter wafer. Again, not the best

foods, but worst of all I wasn't really hungry.

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I want to go and punish myself and eat everything in sight. I've done so good

and now I'm on the verge of going " out of control " . Please help me through

this...so that I don't give in to the emotions.

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[Guest guest]

HI CINDI ~

I really thought about this a lot yesterday...my guilt about eating late at

night, even though hungry and still waking up the next morning feeling guilty.

This is just my old " diet mentality " that I've got to get past. I worked hard

all day yesterday to not let it get the best of me. I went right back to the IE

way...and with everyone's support here and my true desire to put all these food

issues behind me....I fought and worked through it AND, didn't binge or even

overeat yesterday.

So thanks to you and everyone else for all of your comments.

I also realize that eating late at night is not good " FOR ME " . I wake up much

more comfortable when I eat lightly the night before. Like you, I'm only going

to eat to a very slight satisfaction at night. This way I start the next day so

much better. I'm still learning about my own body and what works

best.......BUT, all of this without restrictions.

[Guest guest]

Hi , I appreciate your comment about making choices. And so I'm going to work on making choices about foods I really want in the house. Thanks. CindiSubject: Re: Eating....Not EatingTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 9:46 AM

CINDI ~

I agree with Katcha.

Though I'm new to IE (only about 2 months), I bring all the foods I think are a problem to me, in large numbers, to my home, like IE says to do. The main thing is that we have to heal our relationship with food and if we still consider certain foods a no-no or bad, then we are still holding on to the diet mentality... and not really healing and learning, and becoming natural with our bodies hunger/fullness/ desires.

Once we heal our relationship. ..which will be longer for some, shorter for others, the rest will come naturally. Then we can start chosing the foods we want and don't want without issues.

Regards,

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[Guest guest]

BRAVO for you !! That is excellent work and I bet you are finding reward in

it already. Congrats on the IE (journey) step :)

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> HI CINDI ~

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> I really thought about this a lot yesterday...my guilt about eating late at

night, even though hungry and still waking up the next morning feeling guilty.

This is just my old " diet mentality " that I've got to get past. I worked hard

all day yesterday to not let it get the best of me. I went right back to the IE

way...and with everyone's support here and my true desire to put all these food

issues behind me....I fought and worked through it AND, didn't binge or even

overeat yesterday.

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> So thanks to you and everyone else for all of your comments.

>

> I also realize that eating late at night is not good " FOR ME " . I wake up much

more comfortable when I eat lightly the night before. Like you, I'm only going

to eat to a very slight satisfaction at night. This way I start the next day so

much better. I'm still learning about my own body and what works

best.......BUT, all of this without restrictions.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, , thank you for posting that, because I am deciding to give up the guilt also. :-) CindiSubject: Re: Eating....Not EatingTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 10:37 AM

BRAVO for you !! That is excellent work and I bet you are finding reward in it already. Congrats on the IE (journey) step :)

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> HI CINDI ~

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> I really thought about this a lot yesterday... my guilt about eating late at night, even though hungry and still waking up the next morning feeling guilty. This is just my old "diet mentality" that I've got to get past. I worked hard all day yesterday to not let it get the best of me. I went right back to the IE way...and with everyone's support here and my true desire to put all these food issues behind me....I fought and worked through it AND, didn't binge or even overeat yesterday.

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> So thanks to you and everyone else for all of your comments.

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> I also realize that eating late at night is not good "FOR ME". I wake up much more comfortable when I eat lightly the night before. Like you, I'm only going to eat to a very slight satisfaction at night. This way I start the next day so much better. I'm still learning about my own body and what works best.......BUT, all of this without restrictions.

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