Re: Hi, I just wanted to introduce myself as a mostl...

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In a message dated 10/20/2004 9:21:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tharagor@... writes:

> that I was raised by a hypothyroid father,

> and am married to a hypothyroid wife.

>

then you are probably approaching sainthood...

glad you posted...it's nice to meet the lurkers. appreciated your points

too. let us hear from you more.

born and raised in the south (except those 4 years in NJ)

Cindi

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In a message dated 10/20/2004 10:15:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tharagor@... writes:

> I have realized however, that people, in the midst

> of dealing with hypo, cannot truly appreciate the perspective of someone

> without hypo.

give us a try. I know my mind is clouded at times by my thyroid

disease...and I always appreciate my husband's perspective when I think mine is

skewed.

Scary thing is....I may not always know it's skewed. So jump in anytime and

give us a non-hypo perspective on some things. I think it would be beneficial

to us. But if we jump on ya, just don't take it personal. It's our thyroid.

cindi

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In a message dated 10/20/2004 10:38:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tharagor@... writes:

> During my teenage years, I was prone to

> roid rages. I almost came to foist fites with my father on multiple

> ocCASIONS.

>

this is interesting to me...because my daughter went through a period of

this. I've since found it described exactly by " oppositional defiant

disorder " ...but i have wondered if it wasn't hormonal in nature.

She grew out of it..but it was from about age 14 - 17. Excessive rage.

You say it is a testosterone imbalance? Interesting too, because I have a

slightly high testosterone level.

cindi

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Growing up, I had a serious problem with my father, I never even liked

him, let alone loved him. Once, the advised he may want to move. I

looked at him and my mother and said, " Have fun, I ain't goin' " . For

years I dealt with the apparant lack of logical thought in my fathers

mental process.

I was, at that point, prepared to make it as a 17-year old, without

parental assistance rather than continue with dealing with his issues.

If anyone qualifies for " saint stauts " it is my mother. I remember on

more than one occasion where my mother wanted to just throw my father

" in the garbage can " .

Usually I just lurk. I have realized however, that people, in the midst

of dealing with hypo, cannot truly appreciate the perspective of someone

without hypo. Hypothyroidism affects every other gland in the body.

The thyroid seems to be the moin gland in the endorcrin system.

Unfortunately, doctors appear to be more interested whatever will make

them money. My perception is that modern MDs have a misperception that

the common methods of diagnosing hypo are accurate. This is an

unfortunate fallacy.

-- Tharagor

nc2406@... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/20/2004 9:21:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> tharagor@... writes:

>

> > that I was raised by a hypothyroid father,

> > and am married to a hypothyroid wife.

> >

>

> then you are probably approaching sainthood...

> glad you posted...it's nice to meet the lurkers. appreciated your points

> too. let us hear from you more.

> born and raised in the south (except those 4 years in NJ)

> Cindi

>

>

>

>

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Seeing things from my daughter's point of view, when I was undertreated I must

have been *awful* to live with. All I did was sleep. I managed to work, but

when I got home I crashed. Never cleaned - no energy. Wouldn't sign her up for

activities - too tired to take her anywhere. Wouldn't let her have friends over

- too tired to keep an eye on 'em, & the house was too messy.

When I think about those two years I get SO angry. So unnecessary! Now I think

most doctors are like any other fix-it guy: there might be a few good ones out

there, but most of 'em are crap. Caveat emptor!

Laurie

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If all you did was sleep, your daughter was lucky. I actively HATED my

father until I understood. A sad fact is, most sexualt hormones are

affected my the thyroid. My family has a history of testosterone

imbalance. On more than one occasion, my mother cornered me askinh if I

was taking anabolic steroids. During my teenage years, I was prone to

roid rages. I almost came to foist fites with my father on multiple

ocCASIONS.

He has since become much more mellow. I have sought, and conquered my

anger mangement issues.

I never understood my fathers rage, nor his misunderstanding of my

perspective. I now unbderstand.

-- Tharagor

Laurie Brown wrote:

> Seeing things from my daughter's point of view, when I was

> undertreated I must have been *awful* to live with. All I did was

> sleep. I managed to work, but when I got home I crashed. Never

> cleaned - no energy. Wouldn't sign her up for activities - too tired

> to take her anywhere. Wouldn't let her have friends over - too tired

> to keep an eye on 'em, & the house was too messy.

>

> When I think about those two years I get SO angry. So unnecessary!

> Now I think most doctors are like any other fix-it guy: there might

> be a few good ones out there, but most of 'em are crap. Caveat emptor!

>

> Laurie

>

>

>

>

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O.K, maybe, based on some of my mother's descriptions, I may have slight

testosterone imbalance. Regardless, I might be an extreme example. My

mother has advised, on numerous occasions, that she almost " threw my

father out " .

I have been involved in two different hypo relationships. By my

perpsective, men with hypothyroidisnm are unrelentign butt-holes.

It is important to understand the effects of estrogen and testosterone.

Testosterone makes people agressive. The thyroid does affect estrogen

and testosterone output.

I have not experienced any thyroid issues. All of my issues, as an

adult, can be directly related to outside influecnces.

-- Tharagor

nc2406@... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/20/2004 10:38:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> tharagor@... writes:

>

> > During my teenage years, I was prone to

> > roid rages. I almost came to foist fites with my father on multiple

> > ocCASIONS.

> >

>

> this is interesting to me...because my daughter went through a period of

> this. I've since found it described exactly by " oppositional defiant

> disorder " ...but i have wondered if it wasn't hormonal in nature.

> She grew out of it..but it was from about age 14 - 17. Excessive rage.

> You say it is a testosterone imbalance? Interesting too, because I

> have a

> slightly high testosterone level.

> cindi

>

>

>

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>By my perpsective, men with hypothyroidisnm are unrelentign butt-

holes.

Laughing. We have noticed that, too. Janie

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I have been thinking lately, and what I think is that my abusive x husband,

who is now dead of heart problems and such and bad lifestyle, had to have

had thyroid problems. I'm not giving him an excuse because he was

physically abusive and mean to the bone. His family was riddled with Type I

Diabetes (of course, another strong autoimmune clue), every other person in

his family, it seems, had that one. He could never lose weight, had

horrible back problems, went into rages, but, of course, SOME of that was a

narcicistic attitude, given to him by his mother, plus, his OWN choices, not

to ever listen to a woman for anything. But I am now sure that he did have

low thyroid. Nothing I can do about that at this point, except for pay

attention to what's going on with the children we both have, including, his,

mine, and ours, combos. His oldest son has been displaying these signs for

yrs, plus THEIR mother, who is European (Germany) also has severe thyroid

disease. They didn't have a chance, did they? But they won't listen to me.

I'm really the only stable mother they've got in this world at this point,

because she has been in Schizophrenia for the last 5 yrs. I believe it's

her thyroid disease displaying itself, but she doesn't know anything about

Armour. I tell the boys, but they're not telling her. She had an aunt that

died in a mental institution of so-called Schizophrenia, but I still think

it was thyroid disease. European, German, (as my family is also), makes it

even MORE likely to be so. All 3 families have strong German and American

Native heritage, which makes it all so much more likely that almost all

disease may come back to the thyroid.

Re: Hi, I just wanted to introduce myself

as a mostl...

>

> Growing up, I had a serious problem with my father, I never even liked

> him, let alone loved him. Once, the advised he may want to move. I

> looked at him and my mother and said, " Have fun, I ain't goin' " . For

> years I dealt with the apparant lack of logical thought in my fathers

> mental process.

>

> I was, at that point, prepared to make it as a 17-year old, without

> parental assistance rather than continue with dealing with his issues.

> If anyone qualifies for " saint stauts " it is my mother. I remember on

> more than one occasion where my mother wanted to just throw my father

> " in the garbage can " .

>

> Usually I just lurk. I have realized however, that people, in the midst

> of dealing with hypo, cannot truly appreciate the perspective of someone

> without hypo. Hypothyroidism affects every other gland in the body.

> The thyroid seems to be the moin gland in the endorcrin system.

>

> Unfortunately, doctors appear to be more interested whatever will make

> them money. My perception is that modern MDs have a misperception that

> the common methods of diagnosing hypo are accurate. This is an

> unfortunate fallacy.

>

> -- Tharagor