Guest guest Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Firstly, i want to say thanks to those who put me in touch with Dr. (GI) in Boca. He was really great with my youngest ASD son who he dx'd with 2 chronic ulcers - he says caused by the stress of not being able to communicate effectively. We are working on those issues. Now, I want to attack his eating issues again. He has had no interest in food since 7 months and lives off formula most of the time (this too, has to be a cause of the ulcers). I want to take him to a really good neurologist who is willing and able to think outside the box to find out how I can help him with his feeding issues. To date, I have tried practically everything and I can't help but think there might be be a thyroid imbalance or such like that could possibly be corrected. I don't want someone who is going to throw medication at him as an answer to his problems but someone who is willing to give it some thought, do some testing and just see if there is something out of whack. He was dx'd at MCH 3 years ago with an " empty sella " but I was told there was nothing I could do about it. Maybe I'm grasping at straws? I don't know, but I do know I have to try something new to help him. If I can get him eating then I feel a lot of other things will improve too. Any thoughts would be much appreciated.Thanks.Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Did you try an OT that specializes in feeding problems? There were several posts regarding feeding issues a couple of months ago. There is also a behavioral approach…. Shirly Shirly Gilad BCBA,RN, FNP, MS Behavioral Therapy and then some. Work: Fax: shirly@... www.shirlygilad.com From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Caroline Hopton Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:36 AM To: sList Subject: Neurologist help Firstly, i want to say thanks to those who put me in touch with Dr. (GI) in Boca. He was really great with my youngest ASD son who he dx'd with 2 chronic ulcers - he says caused by the stress of not being able to communicate effectively. We are working on those issues. Now, I want to attack his eating issues again. He has had no interest in food since 7 months and lives off formula most of the time (this too, has to be a cause of the ulcers). I want to take him to a really good neurologist who is willing and able to think outside the box to find out how I can help him with his feeding issues. To date, I have tried practically everything and I can't help but think there might be be a thyroid imbalance or such like that could possibly be corrected. I don't want someone who is going to throw medication at him as an answer to his problems but someone who is willing to give it some thought, do some testing and just see if there is something out of whack. He was dx'd at MCH 3 years ago with an " empty sella " but I was told there was nothing I could do about it. Maybe I'm grasping at straws? I don't know, but I do know I have to try something new to help him. If I can get him eating then I feel a lot of other things will improve too. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Caroline - There is a special disordered eating clinic in the land/DC area that helps introduce food to children. Google it and see if they think they can help your son. Good luck, Hilda -----Original Message-----From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of hidden_garnetSent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:26 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Neurologist help Caroline,Is it possible that the food is causing stomach discomfort? Perhaps if you give a papaya enzyme pill and then slowly introduce the foods he will eat and then add in others. You might also try absorb aid which can be purchased at Whole Foods. It helps w/ the digestion and absorbtion of nutrients. I don't as a rule like to give my son soda, but I used to give him ginger ale with his meals to help settle his stomach. He said, food made it "wiggly" in his stomach. These might help, but I must tell you that he only really improved after we stared taking him to a bio medical clinic in Illinois. After vitamin nutrient therapy he now eats anything we feed him and has a great appetite. (He even went to a restaurant and tried pickled eggs.)Good luck. G.>> Firstly, i want to say thanks to those who put me in touch with Dr.> (GI) in Boca. He was really great with my youngest ASD son who he> dx'd with 2 chronic ulcers - he says caused by the stress of not being able> to communicate effectively. We are working on those issues.> Now, I want to attack his eating issues again. He has had no interest in> food since 7 months and lives off formula most of the time (this too, has> to be a cause of the ulcers). I want to take him to a really good> neurologist who is willing and able to think outside the box to find out how> I can help him with his feeding issues. To date, I have tried practically> everything and I can't help but think there might be be a thyroid imbalance> or such like that could possibly be corrected. I don't want someone who is> going to throw medication at him as an answer to his problems but someone> who is willing to give it some thought, do some testing and just see if> there is something out of whack. He was dx'd at MCH 3 years ago with an> "empty sella" but I was told there was nothing I could do about it.> > Maybe I'm grasping at straws? I don't know, but I do know I have to try> something new to help him. If I can get him eating then I feel a lot of> other things will improve too.> > Any thoughts would be much appreciated.> > Thanks.> > Caroline> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Hi ShirlyYes I have tried him with an OT but no real difference. If any kind of therapy is to work with him, I feel that he would have to have it intensively for a long period of time, i.e. 24/7 for it to actually work. I have heard of feeding centers where people reside over around 2 months while they receive therapy but something like this is just not practical for us right now. I am a single mom with two autistic kids. I have also tried the behavioral approach in the past but to no avail. I appreciate your input.Caroline Did you try an OT that specializes in feeding problems? There were several posts regarding feeding issues a couple of months ago. There is also a behavioral approach…. Shirly Shirly Gilad BCBA,RN, FNP, MS Behavioral Therapy and then some. Work: Fax: shirly@... www.shirlygilad.com From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Caroline Hopton Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:36 AM To: sList Subject: Neurologist help Firstly, i want to say thanks to those who put me in touch with Dr. (GI) in Boca. He was really great with my youngest ASD son who he dx'd with 2 chronic ulcers - he says caused by the stress of not being able to communicate effectively. We are working on those issues. Now, I want to attack his eating issues again. He has had no interest in food since 7 months and lives off formula most of the time (this too, has to be a cause of the ulcers). I want to take him to a really good neurologist who is willing and able to think outside the box to find out how I can help him with his feeding issues. To date, I have tried practically everything and I can't help but think there might be be a thyroid imbalance or such like that could possibly be corrected. I don't want someone who is going to throw medication at him as an answer to his problems but someone who is willing to give it some thought, do some testing and just see if there is something out of whack. He was dx'd at MCH 3 years ago with an " empty sella " but I was told there was nothing I could do about it. Maybe I'm grasping at straws? I don't know, but I do know I have to try something new to help him. If I can get him eating then I feel a lot of other things will improve too. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Hi Caroline,There are a multitude of texture issues: slimy, lumpy, pasty... and I remember gagging on lima beans as a child and being forced to sit at the table until I finished them, and accused of gagging on purpose. I think my mother quit doing that after I fed them to the dog and she barfed them up on my mom's feet... but I digress. If your son eats chips he must not have a complete aversion to solid food, but if a food allergy or sensitivity causes his throat to swell or become sensitive he may not know why and even if he WERE verbal might not be able to tell you. Has he been tested for food allergies? Perhaps he gets headaches in addition to the ulcers... does he hold his throat or head or behave differently in any way when he's not willing to consume any food? How do you get nutrition into him during time periods when he won't eat? I hope he's at least drinking water, juice, milk, etc.Sounds like you've gotten a lot of wonderful suggestions. If you'd like to talk to some adult Aspies (there are a few non-Aspie auties in there too) about this issue, I moderate a group called " Adult Asperger " that welcomes those who love us - it's not exclusive to people on the spectrum. All the best!~Lydia Hi LydiaThanks for your email and your suggestions. I have tried and continue to try the blended food/drink route. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I wish he was verbal so he could tell me how he feels and what bothers him. It is a guessing game. Of the autistic adults you have spoken with, what do they say bothers them most about solid food? Also, I am wondering if some autistic people have a heightened sense of smell which puts them off eating many foods. I notice my son sniffs everything offered to him. Thanks again.Caroline Hi Caroline,I don't know a neurologist, but I do know a lot of Autistic adults... many of whom will not eat solid food at all, ever. It could be texture issues... if this is the case, then any time he can't stand the way it feels in his mouth, he'll spit it out. Have you tried feeding him smoothies, shakes, and/or soups run through a blender to have a smooth consistency? Good luck, and I hope you discover a successful solution!: )Sincerely,~Lydia Firstly, i want to say thanks to those who put me in touch with Dr. (GI) in Boca. He was really great with my youngest ASD son who he dx'd with 2 chronic ulcers - he says caused by the stress of not being able to communicate effectively. We are working on those issues. Now, I want to attack his eating issues again. He has had no interest in food since 7 months and lives off formula most of the time (this too, has to be a cause of the ulcers). I want to take him to a really good neurologist who is willing and able to think outside the box to find out how I can help him with his feeding issues. To date, I have tried practically everything and I can't help but think there might be be a thyroid imbalance or such like that could possibly be corrected. I don't want someone who is going to throw medication at him as an answer to his problems but someone who is willing to give it some thought, do some testing and just see if there is something out of whack. He was dx'd at MCH 3 years ago with an " empty sella " but I was told there was nothing I could do about it. Maybe I'm grasping at straws? I don't know, but I do know I have to try something new to help him. If I can get him eating then I feel a lot of other things will improve too. Any thoughts would be much appreciated.Thanks.Caroline -- Lydia Glider-Broward County Special Needs Parents Examinerwww.examiner.com <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 WE CAN DO THIShttp://www.nopom.info<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3Hear the REAL Voices of Autism:www.iamautism.org <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 " First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. " ~~Mahatma Gandhi -- Lydia Glider-Broward County Special Needs Parents Examinerwww.examiner.com<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 WE CAN DO THIShttp://www.nopom.info<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3Hear the REAL Voices of Autism:www.iamautism.org <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 " First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. " ~~Mahatma Gandhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I have helped children with swallowing issues with cranial--sometimes it is a hyperactive gag reflex for the stomach ulcers, try saccharomyces boulardii (a probiotic you can get at the health food store) > > Caroline - > > There is a special disordered eating clinic in the land/DC area > that helps introduce food to children. Google it and see if they > think they can help your son. Good luck, > > Hilda > > Re: Neurologist help > > > Caroline, > Is it possible that the food is causing stomach discomfort? Perhaps > if you give a papaya enzyme pill and then slowly introduce the foods > he will eat and then add in others. You might also try absorb aid > which can be purchased at Whole Foods. It helps w/ the digestion and > absorbtion of nutrients. I don't as a rule like to give my son soda, > but I used to give him ginger ale with his meals to help settle his > stomach. He said, food made it " wiggly " in his stomach. These might > help, but I must tell you that he only really improved after we > stared taking him to a bio medical clinic in Illinois. After vitamin > nutrient therapy he now eats anything we feed him and has a great > appetite. (He even went to a restaurant and tried pickled eggs.) > Good luck. > G. > > > > > > Firstly, i want to say thanks to those who put me in touch with Dr. > > (GI) in Boca. He was really great with my youngest ASD > son who he > > dx'd with 2 chronic ulcers - he says caused by the stress of not > being able > > to communicate effectively. We are working on those issues. > > Now, I want to attack his eating issues again. He has had no > interest in > > food since 7 months and lives off formula most of the time (this > too, has > > to be a cause of the ulcers). I want to take him to a really good > > neurologist who is willing and able to think outside the box to > find out how > > I can help him with his feeding issues. To date, I have tried > practically > > everything and I can't help but think there might be be a thyroid > imbalance > > or such like that could possibly be corrected. I don't want > someone who is > > going to throw medication at him as an answer to his problems but > someone > > who is willing to give it some thought, do some testing and just > see if > > there is something out of whack. He was dx'd at MCH 3 years ago > with an > > " empty sella " but I was told there was nothing I could do about it. > > > > Maybe I'm grasping at straws? I don't know, but I do know I have > to try > > something new to help him. If I can get him eating then I feel a > lot of > > other things will improve too. > > > > Any thoughts would be much appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Caroline > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Hi Caroline, My daughter has a reaction from the smell of certain foods. She will literally gag at a sniff. There is a proper term for this sensory (smell) reaction but cant think of it off hand. Cohane, LCSW creating connections and strengthening families by providing developmental-behavioral interventions and psychotherapy services Cohane@... From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Caroline Hopton Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:49 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Neurologist help Hi Lydia Thanks for your email and your suggestions. I have tried and continue to try the blended food/drink route. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I wish he was verbal so he could tell me how he feels and what bothers him. It is a guessing game. Of the autistic adults you have spoken with, what do they say bothers them most about solid food? Also, I am wondering if some autistic people have a heightened sense of smell which puts them off eating many foods. I notice my son sniffs everything offered to him. Thanks again. Caroline On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Lydia Glider- <mizlydiagmail> wrote: Hi Caroline, I don't know a neurologist, but I do know a lot of Autistic adults... many of whom will not eat solid food at all, ever. It could be texture issues... if this is the case, then any time he can't stand the way it feels in his mouth, he'll spit it out. Have you tried feeding him smoothies, shakes, and/or soups run through a blender to have a smooth consistency? Good luck, and I hope you discover a successful solution! : ) Sincerely, ~Lydia On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Caroline Hopton <choptongmail> wrote: Firstly, i want to say thanks to those who put me in touch with Dr. (GI) in Boca. He was really great with my youngest ASD son who he dx'd with 2 chronic ulcers - he says caused by the stress of not being able to communicate effectively. We are working on those issues. Now, I want to attack his eating issues again. He has had no interest in food since 7 months and lives off formula most of the time (this too, has to be a cause of the ulcers). I want to take him to a really good neurologist who is willing and able to think outside the box to find out how I can help him with his feeding issues. To date, I have tried practically everything and I can't help but think there might be be a thyroid imbalance or such like that could possibly be corrected. I don't want someone who is going to throw medication at him as an answer to his problems but someone who is willing to give it some thought, do some testing and just see if there is something out of whack. He was dx'd at MCH 3 years ago with an " empty sella " but I was told there was nothing I could do about it. Maybe I'm grasping at straws? I don't know, but I do know I have to try something new to help him. If I can get him eating then I feel a lot of other things will improve too. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks. Caroline -- Lydia Glider- Broward County Special Needs Parents Examiner www.examiner.com <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 WE CAN DO THIS http://www.nopom.info <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Hear the REAL Voices of Autism: www.iamautism.org <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 " First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. " ~~Mahatma Gandhi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.12/2431 - Release Date: 10/12/09 13:01:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I hope you find help for him. My son had no solids until around 3 or 3 1/2. He would gag on anything and lived on PediaSure. he would also smell anything before he would consider tasting it and often gag just from the odor. He is still very sensitive to smell and texture. There is so much that is involved in normal feeding. We all take it for granted until we encounter someone that does not…..We did it very gradually with him. At first it was minute pieces of very crunchy things, like potato chips and we slowly expanded from there with a lot of praise ( at first for even putting the item in his mouth). I had a whole system of presenting new things to him and we slowly moved from crunchy to less crunchy and now he eats OK although still very texture and odor sensitive. Good luck Shirly Shirly Gilad BCBA,RN, FNP, MS Behavioral Therapy and then some. Work: Fax: shirly@... www.shirlygilad.com From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Caroline Hopton Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:54 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Neurologist help Hi Shirly Yes I have tried him with an OT but no real difference. If any kind of therapy is to work with him, I feel that he would have to have it intensively for a long period of time, i.e. 24/7 for it to actually work. I have heard of feeding centers where people reside over around 2 months while they receive therapy but something like this is just not practical for us right now. I am a single mom with two autistic kids. I have also tried the behavioral approach in the past but to no avail. I appreciate your input. Caroline Did you try an OT that specializes in feeding problems? There were several posts regarding feeding issues a couple of months ago. There is also a behavioral approach…. Shirly Shirly Gilad BCBA,RN, FNP, MS Behavioral Therapy and then some. Work: 561 504 6669 Fax: 561 338 5613 shirly@... www.shirlygilad.com From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Caroline Hopton Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:36 AM To: sList Subject: Neurologist help Firstly, i want to say thanks to those who put me in touch with Dr. (GI) in Boca. He was really great with my youngest ASD son who he dx'd with 2 chronic ulcers - he says caused by the stress of not being able to communicate effectively. We are working on those issues. Now, I want to attack his eating issues again. He has had no interest in food since 7 months and lives off formula most of the time (this too, has to be a cause of the ulcers). I want to take him to a really good neurologist who is willing and able to think outside the box to find out how I can help him with his feeding issues. To date, I have tried practically everything and I can't help but think there might be be a thyroid imbalance or such like that could possibly be corrected. I don't want someone who is going to throw medication at him as an answer to his problems but someone who is willing to give it some thought, do some testing and just see if there is something out of whack. He was dx'd at MCH 3 years ago with an " empty sella " but I was told there was nothing I could do about it. Maybe I'm grasping at straws? I don't know, but I do know I have to try something new to help him. If I can get him eating then I feel a lot of other things will improve too. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Has anyone checked zinc levels? I heard many are deficient or near deficient, which adversely affects taste and smell. Also the book "just take a bite" addresses our kiddos developmental levels and provides a program. Awesome book. Again, the problem is usually muti-faceted and may require several concurrent interventions. Sent from my iPhone I hope you find help for him. My son had no solids until around 3 or 3 1/2. He would gag on anything and lived on PediaSure. he would also smell anything before he would consider tasting it and often gag just from the odor. He is still very sensitive to smell and texture. There is so much that is involved in normal feeding. We all take it for granted until we encounter someone that does not…..We did it very gradually with him. At first it was minute pieces of very crunchy things, like potato chips and we slowly expanded from there with a lot of praise ( at first for even putting the item in his mouth). I had a whole system of presenting new things to him and we slowly moved from crunchy to less crunchy and now he eats OK although still very texture and odor sensitive. Good luck Shirly <image001.jpg> Shirly Gilad BCBA,RN, FNP, MS Behavioral Therapy and then some. Work: Fax: shirlyshirlygilad www.shirlygilad.com From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Caroline Hopton Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:54 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Neurologist help Hi Shirly Yes I have tried him with an OT but no real difference. If any kind of therapy is to work with him, I feel that he would have to have it intensively for a long period of time, i.e. 24/7 for it to actually work. I have heard of feeding centers where people reside over around 2 months while they receive therapy but something like this is just not practical for us right now. I am a single mom with two autistic kids. I have also tried the behavioral approach in the past but to no avail. I appreciate your input. Caroline On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Shirly Gilad <shirlygilad> wrote: Did you try an OT that specializes in feeding problems? There were several posts regarding feeding issues a couple of months ago. There is also a behavioral approach…. Shirly <image001.jpg> Shirly Gilad BCBA,RN, FNP, MS Behavioral Therapy and then some. Work: 561 504 6669 Fax: 561 338 5613 shirlyshirlygilad www.shirlygilad.com From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Caroline Hopton Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:36 AM To: sList Subject: Neurologist help Firstly, i want to say thanks to those who put me in touch with Dr. (GI) in Boca. He was really great with my youngest ASD son who he dx'd with 2 chronic ulcers - he says caused by the stress of not being able to communicate effectively. We are working on those issues. Now, I want to attack his eating issues again. He has had no interest in food since 7 months and lives off formula most of the time (this too, has to be a cause of the ulcers). I want to take him to a really good neurologist who is willing and able to think outside the box to find out how I can help him with his feeding issues. To date, I have tried practically everything and I can't help but think there might be be a thyroid imbalance or such like that could possibly be corrected. I don't want someone who is going to throw medication at him as an answer to his problems but someone who is willing to give it some thought, do some testing and just see if there is something out of whack. He was dx'd at MCH 3 years ago with an "empty sella" but I was told there was nothing I could do about it. Maybe I'm grasping at straws? I don't know, but I do know I have to try something new to help him. If I can get him eating then I feel a lot of other things will improve too. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Hopkins Kennedy Krieger Center has a feeding disorder program...I knew someone who was there and had excellent results..it is in Baltimore land and is Part of the Hopkins University/Medical complex...To: sList Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:44:05 PMSubject: Re: Re: Neurologist help Hi G!Thanks for all the info. I will definitely try your suggestions. I think he has a lot of sensory issues and he currently has stomach discomfort from the ulcers. The problem has been around a long time, ten years in fact (!) although I do remember him eating blended veggies and meat when he was a toddler. I have tried so many different approaches and nothing has worked. He's not afraid to try foods but won't swallow them. There is no rhyme or reason to his eating; he may demolish a bag of chips one day or a whole meal and then not eat again for two weeks. I have also been down the biomed route with no luck but it really depends who you get. Who/where did you go in Illinois? Do you know of somewhere nearer who does the same?Appreciate all your help. Caroline'On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:25 PM, hidden_garnet <hidden_garnet@ yahoo.com> wrote: Caroline, Is it possible that the food is causing stomach discomfort? Perhaps if you give a papaya enzyme pill and then slowly introduce the foods he will eat and then add in others. You might also try absorb aid which can be purchased at Whole Foods. It helps w/ the digestion and absorbtion of nutrients. I don't as a rule like to give my son soda, but I used to give him ginger ale with his meals to help settle his stomach. He said, food made it "wiggly" in his stomach. These might help, but I must tell you that he only really improved after we stared taking him to a bio medical clinic in Illinois. After vitamin nutrient therapy he now eats anything we feed him and has a great appetite. (He even went to a restaurant and tried pickled eggs.) Good luck. G. > > Firstly, i want to say thanks to those who put me in touch with Dr. > (GI) in Boca. He was really great with my youngest ASD son who he > dx'd with 2 chronic ulcers - he says caused by the stress of not being able > to communicate effectively. We are working on those issues. > Now, I want to attack his eating issues again. He has had no interest in > food since 7 months and lives off formula most of the time (this too, has > to be a cause of the ulcers). I want to take him to a really good > neurologist who is willing and able to think outside the box to find out how > I can help him with his feeding issues. To date, I have tried practically > everything and I can't help but think there might be be a thyroid imbalance > or such like that could possibly be corrected. I don't want someone who is > going to throw medication at him as an answer to his problems but someone > who is willing to give it some thought, do some testing and just see if > there is something out of whack. He was dx'd at MCH 3 years ago with an > "empty sella" but I was told there was nothing I could do about it. > > Maybe I'm grasping at straws? I don't know, but I do know I have to try > something new to help him. If I can get him eating then I feel a lot of > other things will improve too. > > Any thoughts would be much appreciated. > > Thanks. > > Caroline > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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