RE: Re: Puberty/Aggressiveness

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Try using GABA and SAMe - that usually does the trick. It's the raging testosterone causes aggression and fear and anxiety to elevate.

As soon as my son hit puberty he became very aggressive. Up until then he had never been on a prescribed medication. We used only B vitamin therapy. I am told by his neurologist that it should subside about the time he hits age 40. Yikes!G.>> Oh yes!> > > > > Yesmin> > > endocrinologist> > >  > > > > > Who to see depends on what the problem may be. If it is a growth issue or precocious puberty, many of my patients go to Dr. Freidman in Pembroke Pines or Dr. Reddy in Boca(He has another office also, but I am not sure where). If it is for diabetes or a thyroid issue than Dr. Motkin -Kava, or Dr. Nemerys group.> > Hope that helps.> > Josie Stone> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  >

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What is the appropriate dosage for the GABA & the SAME

Thanks!

Ana

To: sList Sent: Sat, October 3, 2009 12:45:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: Puberty/Aggressiveness

Try using GABA and SAMe - that usually does the trick. It's the raging testosterone causes aggression and fear and anxiety to elevate.

In a message dated 10/2/2009 10:56:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hidden_garnet@ yahoo.com writes:

As soon as my son hit puberty he became very aggressive. Up until then he had never been on a prescribed medication. We used only B vitamin therapy. I am told by his neurologist that it should subside about the time he hits age 40. Yikes!G.>> Oh yes!> > > > > Yesmin> > > endocrinologist> > >  > > > > > Who to see depends on what the problem may be. If it is a growth issue or precocious puberty, many of my patients go to Dr. Freidman in Pembroke Pines or Dr. Reddy in Boca(He has another office also, but I am not sure where). If it is for diabetes or a thyroid issue than Dr. Motkin -Kava, or Dr. Nemerys group.> > Hope that helps.> > Josie Stone> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â >

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

It is incorrect to say that puberty is what causes "aggression". Aggression (e.g., hitting, biting, kicking, pinching, others etc) is a learned behavior and can be helped with the use of Applied Behavior Analysis strategies. When we change an individuals environment, we can change their behavior. Saulnier, M.S., BCBA

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What is the weight of your child?

What is the appropriate dosage for the GABA & the SAME

Thanks!

Ana

From: "badillo9aol" <badillo9aol>To: sList Sent: Sat, October 3, 2009 12:45:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: Puberty/Aggressiveness

Try using GABA and SAMe - that usually does the trick. It's the raging testosterone causes aggression and fear and anxiety to elevate.

In a message dated 10/2/2009 10:56:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hidden_garnet@ yahoo.com writes:

As soon as my son hit puberty he became very aggressive. Up until then he had never been on a prescribed medication. We used only B vitamin therapy. I am told by his neurologist that it should subside about the time he hits age 40. Yikes!G.>> Oh yes!> > > > > Yesmin> > > endocrinologist> > >  > > > > > Who to see depends on what the problem may be. If it is a growth issue or precocious puberty, many of my patients go to Dr. Freidman in Pembroke Pines or Dr. Reddy in Boca(He has another office also, but I am not sure where). If it is for diabetes or a thyroid issue than Dr. Motkin -Kava, or Dr. Nemerys group.> > Hope that helps.> > Josie Stone> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  >

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[Guest guest]

Sometimes not all the day been there done that...and my son is now 13 and showing different things happening even typical kids have mood changes...but our kids don't know how to handle and tell us what is happening so they use what they can..

Thank you, Ellen Blackburn

www.thepuzzleplace.com

Subject: Re: Re: Puberty/AggressivenessTo: sList Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 4:07 PM

Hi All,

It is incorrect to say that puberty is what causes "aggression" . Aggression (e.g., hitting, biting, kicking, pinching, others etc) is a learned behavior and can be helped with the use of Applied Behavior Analysis strategies. When we change an individuals environment, we can change their behavior. Saulnier, M.S., BCBA

[Guest guest]

I am sorry, but I do not agree with you. I am no doctor, and I am not a BCBA.

But I am a mother. A mother who had to go through all these behaviors. I had great help, I had some wonderful BCBAs work with my son and with me, but I also had to teach many who tried to apply what they learned in class and from books without any knowledge of what REAL life with a son with autism is all about.

Yes, the aggression is a behavior, but it need not be learned.(This is where we differ)

Have you not heard that puberty affects as much regular kids as kids with disabilities? Our kids go through all the changes that other kids go through. Why do you think some regular teenagers rebel against their parents? It is life. We are talking about hormones flowing/running through their systems.But because it is difficult for our kids to understand what these changes are all about, because of the difficulty with or lack of language, the aggression becomes an escape/ the reaction to all they do not understand and cannot explain.

Actually there=2

0are studies that have concluded that even women get more aggressive during the gestation period and in the pre-menopausal period because of all these hormonal imbalances.

My son never saw anyone bite themselves, but that did not stop him from biting himself so hard that it left holes/craters in his arms. (5 years later he still has the scars to prove it.) He never saw a boxing match and somehow there was a time when he would hit his face so hard that you could not see his eyes because of the swelling.

Thank God, my son is doing great now and there are a lot of people I have to thank for that.

Applied behavior is what helps modify these behaviors. What you do as a behavior therapist is modify/change those behaviors; you teach them other behaviors that may replace the aggressive ones (which is no easy task).

Sorry, I thought it may be better if I did not say a word, but I guess since I am also going through the "change" I could not keep quiet.

And to those out there that are going through this pe

riod with their children, hang in there. You'll survive. You may end up with more scars, more grey hair, maybe more wrinkles, but that won't kill you. It will only make you look more interesting! And try whatever methods you want, but don't be scared to go to a good psychiatrist for medication for your child if nothing else works.

Good luck!

Yesmin

Virgilio's mom

Re: Re: Puberty/Aggressiveness

Hi All,

It is incorrect to say that puberty is what causes "aggression". Aggression (e.g., hitting, biting, kicking, pinching, others=2

0etc) is a learned behavior and can be helped with the use of Applied Behavior Analysis strategies. When we change an individuals environment, we can change their behavior.

Saulnier, M.S., BCBA

[Guest guest]

A good psychiatrist is quite difficult to find. My son has HFA and is definitely going through puberty.

Any suggestions would be helpful. Any county, it makes no difference. We've tried a lot of different psychiatrists for medication management.

Somebody out there....Let me know.....Thank you.

Marla

Re: Re: Puberty/Aggressiveness

Hi All,

It is incorrect to say that puberty is what causes "aggression". Aggression (e.g., hitting, biting, kicking, pinching, others=2 0etc) is a learned behavior and can be helped with the use of Applied Behavior Analysis strategies. When we change an individuals environment, we can change their behavior.

Saulnier, M.S., BCBA

[Guest guest]

This is so very true about working with

BCBA when it comes to behaviors and I can prove it with my son. He has some SIB

and with BCBA works Excellent, he’s learning to tap shoulders before

hitting himself before (when he wants something) his SIB are much less now. But

I really don’t agree taking my child  or any child to psychiatrist, all they

do is give lots of medicine till the liver is getting damage, sorry but that’s

my point of you.

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Yesmin

Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009

10:06 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re:

Puberty/Aggressiveness

I am sorry, but I do not agree with you. I am no doctor, and I

am not a BCBA.

But I am a mother. A mother who had to go

through all these behaviors. I had great help, I had some wonderful BCBAs work

with my son and with me, but I also had to teach many who tried to apply what

they learned in class and from books without any knowledge of what REAL life

with a son with autism is all about.

Yes, the aggression is a behavior, but it need not be learned.(This is where

we differ)

Have you not heard that puberty affects as

much regular kids as kids with disabilities? Our kids go through all the

changes that other kids go through. Why do you think some regular teenagers

rebel against their parents? It is life. We are talking about hormones

flowing/running through their systems.But because it is difficult for our kids

to understand what these changes are all about, because of the difficulty with

or lack of language, the aggression becomes an escape/ the reaction to all they

do not understand and cannot explain.

Actually there=2 0are studies

that have concluded that even women get more aggressive during the

gestation period and in the pre-menopausal period because of all these hormonal

imbalances.

My son never saw anyone bite themselves,

but that did not stop him from biting himself so hard that it left

holes/craters in his arms. (5 years later he still has the scars to prove it.)

He never saw a boxing match and somehow there was a time when he would hit

his face so hard that you could not see his eyes because of the swelling.

Thank God, my son is doing great now and

there are a lot of people I have to thank for that.

Applied behavior is what helps modify these

behaviors. What you do as a behavior therapist is modify/change those

behaviors; you teach them other behaviors that may replace the aggressive ones

(which is no easy task).

Sorry, I thought it may be better if I did

not say a word, but I guess since I am also going through the

" change " I could not keep quiet.

And to those out there that are going

through this pe riod with their children, hang in there. You'll survive. You may

end up with more scars, more grey hair, maybe more wrinkles, but that

won't kill you. It will only make you look more interesting! And try whatever

methods you want, but don't be scared to go to a good psychiatrist for

medication for your child if nothing else works.

Good luck!

Yesmin

Virgilio's mom

Re: Re: Puberty/Aggressiveness

Hi All,

It is incorrect to say that puberty is what

causes " aggression " . Aggression (e.g., hitting, biting,

kicking, pinching, others=2 0etc) is a learned behavior and can be helped

with the use of Applied Behavior Analysis strategies. When we change an

individuals environment, we can change their behavior.

Saulnier, M.S., BCBA

[Guest guest]

Dr. Cabrera at Community Mental Health () or at Chrysalis Center

He also has private practice.

From: almar2188@...

Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 3:05 AM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Puberty/Aggressiveness

A good psychiatrist is quite difficult to find. My son has HFA and is definitely going through puberty.

Any suggestions would be helpful. Any county, it makes no difference. We've tried a lot of different psychiatrists for medication management.

Somebody out there....Let me know.....Thank you.

Marla Re: Re: Puberty/Aggressiveness

Hi All,

It is incorrect to say that puberty is what causes "aggression". Aggression (e.g., hitting, biting, kicking, pinching, others=2 0etc) is a learned behavior and can be helped with the use of Applied Behavior Analysis strategies. When we change an individuals environment, we can change their behavior. Saulnier, M.S., BCBA

[Guest guest]

Cremer in NOrth Miami Beach is excellent.

His office is easy to get to - Just a mile west of the Ives Dairy Road exit.

He's been seeing my son for years and has lots of patients on the Spectrum.

Hilda

Re: Re: Puberty/Aggressiveness

Hi All,

It is incorrect to say that puberty is what causes "aggression". Aggression (e.g., hitting, biting, kicking, pinching, others=2 0etc) is a learned behavior and can be helped with the use of Applied Behavior Analysis strategies. When we change an individuals environment, we can change their behavior. Saulnier, M.S., BCBA