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Liana-

I'm glad you took the time so say hello. I hope these bad times improve

soon -- I'll be sending my best wishes and most positive thoughts your way.

I hope to hear more about Talia in the future.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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Hi Liana,

I'm sorry you are having a bad time. It's hard to be thankful for the

things we have all the time, especially when we are down! Good luck

to you and little Talia. It is nice to have this group to lean on,

because they understand more than anyone else on earth how you are

feeling. Our kids have to overcome so many obstacles, and I know from

these stories and even my own, how proud we all are for the progress

that our kids make everyday. The progress is sometimes slower than

what we want for them and for their futures and that is frustrating

and sad to see--we just have to look at how far they've come! It can

be hard to hang in there but good luck and God Bless!

, mom to Zachary 4.5 and Carmen 20 months (CHARGE)

> > >

> > > Michele,

> > > What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under

> > your pillow)? Then the

> > > sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and

> > would be maybe more easily

> > > " felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> > > See:

> >

> http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

> > >

> > > I have thought about night training for Kennedy

> > too as she has been

> > > trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn

> > because she wakes easily

> > > and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will

> > NOT go back to sleep and

> > > she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably

> > not going to push it until

> > > like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some

> > mornings, the Good Night

> > > is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No

> > rhyme or reason; she's

> > > always fed the same (still tube fed)...

> > >

> > > Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME

> > that Aubrie thought of

> > > that on her own.

> > > Good luck!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ________________________________________________________________________

> >

> ________________________________________________________________________

> >

> > Message: 2

> > Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:50:52 -0600

> > From: " Michele Westmaas "

> >

> > Subject: RE: night-time potty plan

> >

> > I wondered about that. I hate to buy something

> > special after spending money

> > on this regular one. And of course it was trash

> > night so we through the

> > package away. If she doesn't begin to hear it soon,

> > we'll have to change to

> > the vibrating one. Thanks for the link.

> >

> > Michele W

> > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife

> > to DJ

> >

> > Re: night-time potty plan

> >

> > Michele,

> > What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under

> > your pillow)? Then the

> > sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would

> > be maybe more easily

> > " felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> > See:

> >

> http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

> >

> > I have thought about night training for Kennedy

> > too as she has been

> > trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn

> > because she wakes easily

> > and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT

> > go back to sleep and

> > she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not

> > going to push it until

> > like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some

> > mornings, the Good Night

> > is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No

> > rhyme or reason; she's

> > always fed the same (still tube fed)...

> >

> > Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME

> > that Aubrie thought of

> > that on her own.

> > Good luck!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> >

> > Membership of this email support groups does not

> > constitute membership in

> > the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome

> > Canada.

> > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> > Foundation or to become a member (and get the

> > newsletter),

> > please contact marion@... or visit

> > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org - for

> > CHARGE Syndrome Canada

> > information and membership, please visit

> > http://www.chargesyndrome.ca or

> > email info@... .

> > 8th International

> > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information

> > will be available at

> > www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

> >

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I do wish you luck. But I have another story. lol

I was at the CHARGE conference where a mother was telling me how sad she was

that her daughter couldn't talk and all she wished for was to hear her say Mom

or I love you. When I was talking to this woman I was also with another

mother and her daughter. This daughter didn't speak either. She is older and

signs. What the first mother couldn't' see is that the older daughter was

talking and talking and talking and then talking some more. She was just doing

it

in another language - sign!

There is yet another mother who has an older child who does not talk and

signs very little. Yet this child speaks volumes. I believe it was the love

for

the mother and daughter that was the most profound.

Bonnie

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Bonnie,

Yes, 'speaking' takes many forms...and one of the most powerful means

of communication can be through touch...and behaviour...I'll never

forget an initial assessment I did with a young child and her mother,

who had been told by 'the specialists' that her daughter (not CHARGE,

but deafblind and severe brain damage) would never be able to

communicate in any way whatsoever...how wrong were those doctors!!

The way this child engaged with her mother when she held her and

looked into her eyes was awesome...definitely telling her mother how

much she loved her...the behaviour saying more than a million words

ever could!

Sharon from West Oz

>I do wish you luck. But I have another story. lol

>

>I was at the CHARGE conference where a mother was telling me how sad she was

>that her daughter couldn't talk and all she wished for was to hear her say Mom

>or I love you. When I was talking to this woman I was also with another

>mother and her daughter. This daughter didn't speak either. She is older and

>signs. What the first mother couldn't' see is that the older daughter was

>talking and talking and talking and then talking some more. She was

>just doing it

>in another language - sign!

>

>There is yet another mother who has an older child who does not talk and

>signs very little. Yet this child speaks volumes. I believe it was

>the love for

>the mother and daughter that was the most profound.

>

>Bonnie

>

>

>

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Oh, goodness, I keep trying to go to bed, and here's another post I want to

answer. Just realize that this is another one of my really off/tired nights

(i.e., I hate anything that smacks of an interview at this stage and am

terribly wired).

As you know, I grew up in a family of psychiatrists, one very well known

dr at that. My father wrote the main endorsement for Selma Freiberg's (I

know I have the name wrong) work on blind children with Dave Freedman

(and lord help me, I have his last name wrong, too, though one of his

son's is 1 day older than I, and Dave is what prompts this dinghy reply.)

My brother put me in touch with Dave soon after 's birth. Dave's

daughter was born deaf, and I'll always believe that the family left New

Orleans for Houston because much better services were available.

Anyway, I knew that had smiled at me (this was when all drs in MO

swore that she was blind), and Dave gave me whatever the

developmental line was in 1984 about smiling; he said that it wasn't

developmentally possible. He was wrong! reacted with great glee

not only with me but also with others, especially youngsters. This was the

beginning of my learning to trust my own gut.

I've reported here in the past of a dr's appt. in Boston while was

still at Perkins. Andy and I, Pam , and K's teacher were there.

sat on her parents' laps, and I was so upset because I just knew this

wasn't " age appropriate. " Forget that. Pam and teacher were fine with it ---

and reading these posts, I think of bonding and communication. I want to

scream to everyone, let the love shine through! That's where you'll build

communication.

On that, a good night to all. Martha

Sorry to be so long winded, but I was so up tight for so many years about

the very natural love and communication was trying to share that I'd

like to help all of us avoid the pitfalls... We are parents. Andy corrects me

now whenever I call a child, but she IS my child. Love, even through

great pain, I think that's how we build our bonds with our kids.

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