Re: Bites

[Guest guest]

Actually I usual eat with small plate this way I know how much hungry I am.

Whether if I want another plate of food or not. Turn out surprised said about 3

out of 10 I usual get more than one small plate of foods. It is interest though

I have a friend who never got fat and he eat 4 or 5 large plates front of me.

However, that he never call me any names. He keep said different individual has

different way response to foods so he has no problem with me as the way I am. It

is very interest to have that kind friend. He is very thin yet sometimes I watch

him eat a lot more than usual a person I have observes. For some reason I always

have observes how people eat and how much they eat. Maybe it was from my mother

who was a large beautiful woman. Who knows how I end up watch how other people

deal with foods.

Eliza

> >

> > I've read a lot of books about ie, and I haven't found anything about

> > cutting up food before eating it. As a kid, I was skinny and always cut

> > sandwiches and candy bars before eating them. This way, I believe, I could

> > choose not to eat the other half, or maybe I could feel a sense of

> > accomplishment after being able to finish half. I don't know but I do

> > believe it was an intuitive thing. Tonight I thought about it before eating

> > my 3rd protein bar and couldn't bring myself to cut it in half! I think it

> > was because I was going for the sickish feeling that I have learned to enjoy

> > as an adult.

> >

> > So, my two questions are: 1. Has anyone read anything about cutting food in

> > relation to ie? 2. Does anyone have any ideas for me to get past this

> > addiction to the sickish feeling?

> >

> > Thank you..

> > Knobloch

> > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular

> >

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> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I remember Oprah talking about how she could accept eating a couple of

mini-muffins and being satisfied while one mega muffin didn't seem like

'enough'. So yes, how one looks at the 'amount' can play into how much is eaten.

I know that I have had success with baking mini-cakes or loafs instead of full

sized baked goods because I didn't feel like I had to eat it all before it got

stale or in was 'there'. (See food -> eat it!) Packaging freshly baked cookies

into '6 packs' and putting these in the freezer has helped as well. That way I

only have a few in front of me and they stay good for a longer time too.

(tossing food out is an issue for me)

As far as your eat to sick question, this is about the only things I can

brainstorm -

* the sick feeling is your 'permission' to STOP.

* the sick feeling is your 'punishment' for overeating.

* have you ever purposely sat and eaten beyond full, noting how the feelings

change as you eat? Maybe if you could feel the feeling right before 'sick', you

could then learn to eat to that level? Next to the level before it and tiptoe

back to 'satisfied'?!?

Just some thoughts - Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I've read a lot of books about ie, and I haven't found anything about cutting

up food before eating it. As a kid, I was skinny and always cut sandwiches and

candy bars before eating them. This way, I believe, I could choose not to eat

the other half, or maybe I could feel a sense of accomplishment after being able

to finish half. I don't know but I do believe it was an intuitive thing.

Tonight I thought about it before eating my 3rd protein bar and couldn't bring

myself to cut it in half! I think it was because I was going for the sickish

feeling that I have learned to enjoy as an adult.

>

> So, my two questions are: 1. Has anyone read anything about cutting food in

relation to ie? 2. Does anyone have any ideas for me to get past this addiction

to the sickish feeling?

>

> Thank you..

> Knobloch

> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular

>

[Guest guest]

cutting up food actually sounds like a little bit of a diet thing to me, though

I can't put my finger on why. (not saying that's what you're doing, it just has

that association for me for some reason). i guess maybe because it feels like

artificial portion control, allowing you to eat the Whole Thing, when really a

person should be thinking about listening to cues from your stomach and not

external cues.

Again I don't mean YOU, brenda, just that that's what comes to mind when i think

of cutting up food before eating it.

thea

>

> I've read a lot of books about ie, and I haven't found anything about cutting

up food before eating it. As a kid, I was skinny and always cut sandwiches and

candy bars before eating them. This way, I believe, I could choose not to eat

the other half, or maybe I could feel a sense of accomplishment after being able

to finish half. I don't know but I do believe it was an intuitive thing.

Tonight I thought about it before eating my 3rd protein bar and couldn't bring

myself to cut it in half! I think it was because I was going for the sickish

feeling that I have learned to enjoy as an adult.

>

> So, my two questions are: 1. Has anyone read anything about cutting food in

relation to ie? 2. Does anyone have any ideas for me to get past this addiction

to the sickish feeling?

>

> Thank you..

> Knobloch

> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular

>

[Guest guest]

Don't be sorry for writing a lot... I love reading it!

I found it on amazon.com :]

I don't quite understand feeling hungrier the next day after overeating the day before. I have noticed that if I overeat big time (not just get a little past full, but really pig out) I wake up feeling hungry! If I eat little the day before, the next day I wake up and don't feel hungry. However, something I have also noticed is that I " feel " hungry, but it's not really hunger. Initially I feel a sense of hollowness in my stomach which is very similar to a stomach growl. Not intentionally, but due to having a baby who does not always let me eat when I feel I need to, I realized that it goes from feeling as though I have an empty stomach and feeling a bit nauseated sometimes, then it completely goes away and I don't feel hungry at all. When I'm truly hungry, my stomach continues to growl more and more and I get weak and dizzy etc. It's weird. In fact, when I used to binge I would wake up the next morning and my entire body would feel bruised. It would hurt to have my clothes rub against my skin! I will never understand that, but I'm assuming it's the sodium that completely dehydrated me? I would eat so much and be so thirsty but no amount of fluid would even fit inside my tummy!

I tried a multitude of things to lessen the allure of food. I tried intentionally eating it even if I didn't want it (in the food and feelings workbook there is actually an activity on this), I would eat some of my scariest food with every meal to prove to myself that it was there at all times, I would allow myself 2 or 8 or whatever it was and make sure to tell myself that it was perfectly fine that I was eating this food and eating multiple servings was not BAD. By having a little with every meal I was never able to feel deprivation from it and didn't feel like I could only eat it when I was hungry (for some reason that made me feel deprived initially). Telling myself I could eat however much I wanted at any time regardless and that it wasn't bad kind of took the allure away as now it wasn't " forbidden. " When I would force myself to sit down with a food and eat it when I was completely calm and not hungry, I realized that this particular food was not magical, I did not walk away from eating it feeling like a brand new wonderful woman. If it did nothing to me then, why would I believe that it would make everything better when I was feeling bad? Doing this I also realized that my most forbidden food (betty crocker's rainbow chip frosting) actually didn't taste all that good! I have eaten it ONCE since that " activity " and did not enjoy it and that 3/4 full can has been sitting in my fridge for almost a month, and I still have another can in the cupboard.

I was confused about the drink and snack thing as well. I think the rules of drinking (juice, milk, alcohol, etc.) are the same as eating. If you are thirsting for a particular drink, then drink it! But only continue drinking it if you are truly enjoying it. If you are thirsty and know that water will quench your thirst better than orange juice, then drink the water. Give your body what it is asking for. If you are thirsty and milk will both quench your thirst and make you feel good in a way that water wont, go for the milk and just stop drinking it when you feel satisfied. My fiance asks me if I want starbucks every time we pass by there, and sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. If it is super cold and I want something warm and caramely, I take up the offer. I remember a long time ago I used to buy a venti and reheat it all day long (when I was a normal eater). Now I find I like to have it all at once but can't drink a whole lot, so I order a tall and wind up throwing sometimes half away! If it is hot out, I will only get something if I am a bit hungry because a frappucinno actually fills my belly and I wind up feeling overfull if I drink one when I'm not hungry and I feel icky. Again, I just get a tall because I have found that is plenty for me. It took throwing out half of many grandes though to figure this out. I had to have permission to have more before I learned I truly want less.

The snacking thing still confuses me. I think it is because I put strong rules on IE though. We all get what is called taste hunger. I can't eat a candy bar when I'm hungry, and I don't always want one when I'm not, but every so often I get " taste hunger " and crave a candy bar. So long as emotions aren't coming in to play and you're not eating to block out thoughts or numb feelings, I'd go ahead and eat the candy bar (or whatever it is) but make sure to truly enjoy it and tune in to satisfaction levels. If it doesn't taste as good as you imagined, don't eat it! Kind of the same as IE with body hunger.

I've still got to get a hold on my emotional eating as well. I am getting much better though, as in the past I didn't realize I ate out of emotions until way later in the day when I went and looked back on why I ate. Now I can actually stop myself in the middle or I will find myself staring into the cupboard and asking myself " which one of these foods will TRULY make my frustration/anxiety/guilt what-have-you go away? " If I can find the miracle food that will solve life's problems, then heck yes I'm going to eat it! But I have yet to find that food so even though it is hard, I walk away from the cupboard and talk my heart out to my fiance and feel a lot better both mentally and physically.

Wow, I write a lot, I'm sorry!

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