Re: NOTE FROM THE MODERATOR - PLEASE READ

[Guest guest]

Though I disagree with some of what he had stated, his points are valid and should be respected as all of ours. Remember that he is on the spectrum and may not have the social niceties many of us have as individuals not on the spectrum possess. He is an adult on the spectrum and has the qualities and traits that make up his personality. Many of our kids may someday present as similar to him. Remember that for him, he is trying to help and contribute but is not applying the social rules. Not allowing him to post is contradictory to what we want for our own kids someday. Yes, some discussions should occur privately but there are many, many individuals who feel similar in terms of utilizing biomedical, etc. I heard all the same arguments and research as he has cited from all the mental health professionals and participants, instructors from my ABA class.How do we expect him to learn to do it better if he so chooses? He may not and I for one appreciate his personality and way of presenting information. How do we expect our kids to be treated when they will ultimately do very similar things? Sent from my iPhone

Dear Janet and all,

It is I who must apologize to you. Apparently the editing mechanism at Yahoogroups is not working correctly. I had edited out the entire last part of this post, because I felt the part about his own issues was interesting, but the last section was nasty and insulting, and I thought it served no purpose in distributing. Unfortunately, the entire note was displayed anyway.

Yes, one person has been stirring up a great deal of dissension here. That person will no longer be posting. Again, my apologies for allowing it to get so far out of hand and offending so many of you, as my private correspondence has shown.

From: masterspowell <janet.powellogletreedeakins>Subject: Re: Dan Doctor in Miami Area.To: sList Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:54 PM

------------ --------- --------- --------With respect, yes - you were ridiculing. And you are now, as well, i.e. "This, incidentally, *is* mocking -- or at least mocking one ofthe sillier assertions contained in your message."You have no right to insult other people. You seem lost on this point, as does your other friend on this list. I will not respond to any other posts on this matter from either you or her. It is truly a shame that a list that was once a place for support and resources for parents with autistic children here in South Florida has now turned sour and ugly because of a few bad apples. JanetMiami> > >> > > > Hi!!! Could anybody please tell me , if there is a DAN doctor in the> > Miami> > > > Area.> > > > I have been buying tests by myself since my daughter´s primary doctor> > told> > > > me that "recovered autistics are just rumors".> > > > I need to know if Medicaid-waiver covers any of those tests.> > > > My daughter is 25 years old, but you know.....I have to keep> > > > trying!.Sometimes I don´t know who is more autistic , my daughter or> > me!!> > > > Sequenzia, you were so helpful and kind to me when my daughter was at> > > > Kensington Park Elementary.. ..a

Long, long time ago.> > > > Thanks to all of you.> > > > Macias> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >> > > >

[Guest guest]

Exactly. We need to read with sensitivity and learn to help our children from his views. He is being *honest*, probably more so than any of us! :)Fran

From: masterspowell <janet.powell@ ogletreedeakins. com>Subject: Re: Dan Doctor in Miami Area.To: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:54 PM

------------ --------- --------- --------With respect, yes - you were ridiculing. And you are now, as well, i.e. "This, incidentally, *is* mocking -- or at least mocking one ofthe sillier assertions contained in your message."You have no right to insult other people. You seem lost on this point, as does your other friend on this list. I will not respond to any other posts on this matter from either you or her. It is truly a shame that a list that was once a place for support and resources for parents with autistic children here in South Florida has now turned sour and ugly because of a few bad apples. JanetMiami> > >> > > > Hi!!! Could anybody please tell me , if there is a DAN doctor in the> > Miami> > > > Area.> > > > I have been buying tests by myself since my daughter´s primary doctor> > told> > > > me that "recovered autistics are just rumors".> > > > I need to know if Medicaid-waiver covers any of those tests.> > > > My daughter is 25 years old, but you know.....I have to keep> > > > trying!.Sometimes I don´t know who is more autistic , my daughter or> > me!!> > > > Sequenzia, you were so helpful and kind to me when my daughter was at> > > > Kensington Park Elementary.. ..a

Long, long time ago.> > > > Thanks to all of you.> > > > Macias> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >> > > >

[Guest guest]

I second this. Although I don't really get the whole neurodiversity movement, or

whatever, and didn't agree with most of his views,I thought the same... My son

could be him in some 20+ years. Theory of mind is something amazing, and social

rules probably apply here as well. We're all hurting, but we could show a little

more compassion and understanding. It makes me very, very sad that this

discussion has ended this way.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi!!! Could anybody please tell me , if there is a DAN

> > doctor in the

> > > > Miami

> > > > > > Area.

> > > > > > I have been buying tests by myself since my daughter´s prima

> > ry doctor

> > > > told

> > > > > > me that " recovered autistics are just rumors " .

> > > > > > I need to know if Medicaid-waiver covers any of those tests.

> > > > > > My daughter is 25 years old, but you know.....I have to keep

> > > > > > trying!.Sometimes I don´t know who is more autistic , my dau

> > ghter or

> > > > me!!

> > > > > > Sequenzia, you were so helpful and kind to me when my

> > daughter was at

> > > > > > Kensington Park Elementary.. ..a Long, long time ago.

> > > > > > Thanks to all of you.

> > > > > > Macias

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Tina,

 

Thank you for your support.

 

It's worth noting that one of my introductory posts mentioned both that I've recently completed the postgraduate coursework for BCBA certification and that I perseverate on research... in addition to the fact that I am seeking additional (supervised) clinical experience.

 

The first and last of these should have indicated pretty firmly that I do not believe that seeking help for your children is inappropriate, as some of those on the list seem to think I do. If this were the case, I would neither have taken the time to gain credentials related to providing this help nor sought a job that involved providing it.

 

The first two, on the other hand... I am uncertain as to how to phrase this politely, but...

 

There are over 1,500 people on this list. Many, if not most, of them are parents of autistic children. Of that number, only one person has thought to write me off-list regarding anything I've said on it (excluding my statement that I was seeking work -- if that is included, the number increases to two). No one has thought to ask me about research studies (which I read for fun and have extensive knowledge of). No one has even thought to ask me to reccommend articles, studies, or references -- on list or off. This is despite the fact that autistic individuals almost inevitably acquire a tremendous amount of detailed knowledge of the subjects of their perseveration. Many, if not all, of you have extensive experience with this phenomenon.

 

What's more, we almost always enjoy talking about the subjects of our perseverations. Again, many, if not all, of you have extensive experience with this phenomenon. I assure you that I am no exception on this count... and would go so far as to say that I'm near-starving for intelligent discussion of the research (in large part since I can't afford to go to conferences all that often).

I only know one other individual on the spectrum who actively perseverates on research and is at anything approaching my educational level (in fact, I consider her to be considerably above it despite the fact that she has less formal education than me). I always look forward to and enjoy our interactions -- despite the fact that they seem to almost inevitably break down into a series of misunderstandings -- because I always learn a tremendous amount from them.

 

Additionally, the nature and frequency of my responses should have been a pretty substantial indicator of my willingness to respond to that sort of thing. I have even made explicit offers to provide information or to elaborate on points. I cannot recall anyone taking me up on any of these offers.

 

I'm aware that there are other factors potentially involved (a desire not to impose on me, for instance), but... over 1,500 people. Even if half of that number was composed of service providers, that would still be 750 parents.

 

So, for the part that I'm not really sure how to phrase politely -- just what sort of impression do you think I get from these facts?

 

In addition, every post I've made has included a link to my blog. Many of the posts there are aimed at helping parents at some form or another. Many of them talk about things that I've mentioned only briefly on this list.

 

I have not, to date, recieved a single comment on any of them from anyone who arrived there by following this link. I also have the ability to make this statement.

 

Actually, I'd go so far as to say that I haven't recieved any indication that anyone here has even followed that link except for the one person who thought to write me off-list regarding something I'd said on it... who mentioned having done so in a private e-mail.

 

What sort of impression do you think that makes?

 

I'm bringing this up because, apparently, many on this list have accused me of not attempting to (or being unable to) take another's point of view or to empathize with another's positions. In fact, this is one of many largely unfounded autism stereotypes... and, if it is true in this case, it most certainly is not unique to my side of things. The above example was, frankly, the gentlest and least potentially controversial way I could think of to point that out. There are many, far harsher and more critical, ways I could have chosen.

 

This way also had the advantage of pointing out a resource that some of you may have missed.

 

-- Cheezem

aspieperspective.blogspot.com

Though I disagree with some of what he had stated, his points are valid and should be respected as all of ours. 

Remember that he is on the spectrum and may not have the social niceties many of us have as individuals not on the spectrum possess.  He is an adult on the spectrum and has the qualities and traits that make up his personality.  Many of our kids may someday present as similar to him.  Remember that for him, he is trying to help and contribute but is not applying the social rules. Not allowing him to post is contradictory to what we want for our own kids someday. 

Yes, some discussions should occur privately but there are many, many individuals who feel similar in terms of utilizing biomedical, etc. I heard all the same arguments and research as he has cited from all the mental health professionals and participants, instructors from my ABA class.

How do we expect him to learn to do it better if he so chooses? He may not and I for one appreciate his personality and way of presenting information. How do we expect our kids to be treated when they will ultimately do very similar things? 

Sent from my iPhone

 

Dear Janet and all,

 

It is I who must apologize to you.  Apparently the editing mechanism at Yahoogroups is not working correctly.  I had edited out the entire last part of this  post, because I felt the part about his own issues was interesting, but the last section was nasty and insulting, and I thought it served no purpose in distributing.  Unfortunately, the entire note was displayed anyway. 

 

Yes, one person has been stirring up a great deal of dissension here.  That person will no longer be posting.  Again, my apologies for allowing it to get so far out of hand and offending so many of you, as my private correspondence has shown.

 

Subject: Re: Dan Doctor in Miami Area.

To: sList Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:54 PM

 

------------ --------- --------- --------With respect, yes - you were ridiculing. And you are now, as well, i.e. " This, incidentally, *is* mocking -- or at least mocking one ofthe sillier assertions contained in your message. "

You have no right to insult other people. You seem lost on this point, as does your other friend on this list. I will not respond to any other posts on this matter from either you or her. It is truly a shame that a list that was once a place for support and resources for parents with autistic children here in South Florida has now turned sour and ugly because of a few bad apples.

JanetMiami> > >> > > > Hi!!! Could anybody please tell me , if there is a DAN doctor in the> > Miami

> > > > Area.> > > > I have been buying tests by myself since my daughter´s primary doctor> > told> > > > me that " recovered autistics are just rumors " .> > > > I need to know if Medicaid-waiver covers any of those tests.

> > > > My daughter is 25 years old, but you know.....I have to keep> > > > trying!.Sometimes I don´t know who is more autistic , my daughter or> > me!!> > > > Sequenzia, you were so helpful and kind to me when my daughter was at

> > > > Kensington Park Elementary.. ..a Long, long time ago.> > > > Thanks to all of you.> > > > Macias> > > >> > > >> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >> > > >

[Guest guest]

I agree. I think this is an overkill. certainly over stepped

some boundaries but if we do not show understanding and compassion for someone

who is on the spectrum then who will. He did not go on a personal attack. He

stated his views and what turned it into a rather unpleasant discussion were

the personalized reactions he received for his unpopular views.

I found him educated and intelligent if lacking in social

decorum. Some of our kids are very much like that.

Shirly

Shirly Gilad BCBA,RN, FNP, MS

Behavioral Therapy and then some.

Work:

Fax:

shirly@...

www.shirlygilad.com

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of Tina Terri Austin

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:22 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: NOTE FROM THE MODERATOR - PLEASE READ

Though I disagree with some of what he had stated, his

points are valid and should be respected as all of ours.

Remember that he is on the spectrum and may not have the

social niceties many of us have as individuals not on the spectrum possess.

He is an adult on the spectrum and has the qualities and traits that make

up his personality. Many of our kids may someday present as similar to

him. Remember that for him, he is trying to help and contribute but is

not applying the social rules. Not allowing him to post is contradictory to

what we want for our own kids someday.

Yes, some discussions should

occur privately but there are many, many individuals who feel similar in terms

of utilizing biomedical, etc. I heard all the same arguments and research as he

has cited from all the mental health professionals and participants,

instructors from my ABA class.

How do we expect him to learn to do it better if he so

chooses? He may not and I for one appreciate his personality and way of

presenting information. How do we expect our kids to be treated when they will

ultimately do very similar things?

Sent from my iPhone

Dear Janet and all,

It is I who must apologize to you. Apparently the

editing mechanism at Yahoogroups is not working correctly. I had edited

out the entire last part of this post, because I felt the part

about his own issues was interesting, but the last section was nasty and

insulting, and I thought it served no purpose in distributing.

Unfortunately, the entire note was displayed anyway.

Yes, one person has been stirring up a great deal of

dissension here. That person will no longer be posting. Again, my

apologies for allowing it to get so far out of hand and offending so many of

you, as my private correspondence has shown.

Subject: Re: Dan Doctor in Miami Area.

To: sList

Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:54 PM

------------ ---------

--------- --------

With respect, yes - you were ridiculing. And you are now, as well, i.e.

" This, incidentally, *is* mocking -- or at least mocking one of

the sillier assertions contained in your message. "

You have no right to insult other people. You seem lost on this point, as

does your other friend on this list.

I will not respond to any other posts on this matter from either you or her.

It is truly a shame that a list that was once a place for support and

resources for parents with autistic children here in South Florida has now

turned sour and ugly because of a few bad apples.

Janet

Miami

> > >

> > > > Hi!!! Could anybody please tell me , if there is a DAN

doctor in the

> > Miami

> > > > Area.

> > > > I have been buying tests by myself since my daughter´s

primary doctor

> > told

> > > > me that " recovered autistics are just rumors " .

> > > > I need to know if Medicaid-waiver covers any of those

tests.

> > > > My daughter is 25 years old, but you know.....I have to

keep

> > > > trying!.Sometimes I don´t know who is more autistic , my

daughter or

> > me!!

> > > > Sequenzia, you were so helpful and kind to me when my

daughter was at

> > > > Kensington Park Elementary.. ..a Long, long time ago.

> > > > Thanks to all of you.

> > > > Macias

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I second your thoughts Tina.  Particularly in the area of trying to be

sensitive to the fact that he is on the spectrum and many of our kids may

present like this someday.  Although I certainly can recognize how some of his

statements might have been seen as offensive, I found his exchanges very

valuable – particularly the ones he had in relation to Lydia.  There is

a sense of loyalty and sincerity between them…that made me feel hopeful

about the relationship possibilities with my own daughter. 

   

Cohane, LCSW

creating connections and strengthening families by providing

developmental-behavioral interventions and psychotherapy services

Cohane@...

From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Tina Terri Austin

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009

2:22 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: NOTE

FROM THE MODERATOR - PLEASE READ

Though I disagree with some of what he had stated, his points are valid

and should be respected as all of ours.

Remember that he is on the spectrum and may not have the social

niceties many of us have as individuals not on the spectrum possess. He

is an adult on the spectrum and has the qualities and traits that make up his

personality. Many of our kids may someday present as similar to him.

Remember that for him, he is trying to help and contribute but is not

applying the social rules. Not allowing him to post is contradictory to what we

want for our own kids someday.

Yes, some discussions

should occur privately but there are many, many individuals who feel similar in

terms of utilizing biomedical, etc. I heard all the same arguments and research

as he has cited from all the mental health professionals and participants,

instructors from my ABA

class.

How do we expect him to learn to do it better if he so chooses? He may

not and I for one appreciate his personality and way of presenting information.

How do we expect our kids to be treated when they will ultimately do very

similar things?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 24, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Karp <deniseslist> wrote:

Dear Janet and all,

It is I who must apologize to you. Apparently

the editing mechanism at Yahoogroups is not working correctly. I had

edited out the entire last part of this post, because I felt the

part about his own issues was interesting, but the last section was nasty and

insulting, and I thought it served no purpose in distributing.

Unfortunately, the entire note was displayed anyway.

Yes, one person has been stirring up a great deal of

dissension here. That person will no longer be posting. Again, my

apologies for allowing it to get so far out of hand and offending so many of

you, as my private correspondence has shown.

From: masterspowell <janet.powellogletreedeakins>

Subject: Re: Dan Doctor in Miami Area.

To: sList

Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:54 PM

------------ ---------

--------- --------

With respect, yes - you were ridiculing. And you are now, as well, i.e.

" This, incidentally, *is* mocking -- or at least mocking one of

the sillier assertions contained in your message. "

You have no right to insult other people. You seem lost on this point, as

does your other friend on this list.

I will not respond to any other posts on this matter from either you or her.

It is truly a shame that a list that was once a place for support and

resources for parents with autistic children here in South

Florida has now turned sour and ugly because of a few bad

apples.

Janet

Miami

> > >

> > > > Hi!!! Could anybody please tell me , if there is a DAN

doctor in the

> > Miami

> > > > Area.

> > > > I have been buying tests by myself since my daughter´s

primary doctor

> > told

> > > > me that " recovered autistics are just rumors " .

> > > > I need to know if Medicaid-waiver covers any of those

tests.

> > > > My daughter is 25 years old, but you know.....I have to

keep

> > > > trying!.Sometimes I don´t know who is more autistic , my

daughter or

> > me!!

> > > > Sequenzia, you were so helpful and kind to me when my

daughter was at

> > > > Kensington

Park Elementary.. ..a

Long, long time ago.

> > > > Thanks to all of you.

> > > > Macias

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Thank You

Jeannette

To: sList Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:35:43 PMSubject: NOTE FROM THE MODERATOR - PLEASE READ

Dear Janet and all,

It is I who must apologize to you. Apparently the editing mechanism at Yahoogroups is not working correctly. I had edited out the entire last part of this post, because I felt the part about his own issues was interesting, but the last section was nasty and insulting, and I thought it served no purpose in distributing. Unfortunately, the entire note was displayed anyway.

Yes, one person has been stirring up a great deal of dissension here. That person will no longer be posting. Again, my apologies for allowing it to get so far out of hand and offending so many of you, as my private correspondence has shown.

From: masterspowell <janet.powell@ ogletreedeakins. com>Subject: Re: Dan Doctor in Miami Area.To: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:54 PM

------------ --------- --------- --------With respect, yes - you were ridiculing. And you are now, as well, i.e. "This, incidentally, *is* mocking -- or at least mocking one ofthe sillier assertions contained in your message."You have no right to insult other people. You seem lost on this point, as does your other friend on this list. I will not respond to any other posts on this matter from either you or her. It is truly a shame that a list that was once a place for support and resources for parents with autistic children here in South Florida has now turned sour and ugly because of a few bad apples. JanetMiami> > >> > > > Hi!!! Could anybody please tell me , if there is a DAN doctor in the> > Miami> > > > Area.> > > > I have been buying tests by myself since my daughter´s primary doctor> > told> > > > me that "recovered autistics are just rumors".> > > > I need to know if Medicaid-waiver covers any of those tests.> > > > My daughter is 25 years old, but you know.....I have to keep> > > > trying!.Sometimes I don´t know who is more autistic , my daughter or> > me!!> > > > Sequenzia, you were so helpful and kind to me when my daughter was at> > > > Kensington Park Elementary.. ..a Long, long time ago.> > > > Thanks to all of you.> > > >

Macias> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >> > > >

[Guest guest]

:I hope you will consider allowing back on our list group. I know you have a very difficult position but perhaps something can be worked out.How can we expect society to show tolerance to our children if we do not set the example. Just like when one of our children may hit, say inappropriate things, stim, tantrum etc. we hope that others will show empathy and be understanding. We pray that they will know that these actions are not intentional or done with malice. I am almost certain that did not have any intention to upset anyone. He speaks the truth but lacks social skills like many of our children. Perhaps we can provide him with some specific concrete rules which he can apply. I think we all can learn a great deal from and at the same time help him with his daily

struggles.

From: masterspowell <janet.powell@ ogletreedeakins. com>Subject: Re: Dan Doctor in Miami Area.To: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:54 PM

------------ --------- --------- --------With respect, yes - you were ridiculing. And you are now, as well, i.e. "This, incidentally, *is* mocking -- or at least mocking one ofthe sillier assertions contained in your message."You have no right to insult other people. You seem lost on this point, as does your other friend on this list. I will not respond to any other posts on this matter from either you or her. It is truly a shame that a list that was once a place for support and resources for parents with autistic children here in South Florida has now turned sour and ugly because of a few bad apples. JanetMiami> > >> > > > Hi!!! Could anybody please tell me , if there is a DAN doctor in the> > Miami> > > > Area.> > > > I have been buying tests by myself since my daughter´s primary doctor> > told> > > > me that "recovered autistics are just rumors".> > > > I need to know if Medicaid-waiver covers any of those tests.> > > > My daughter is 25 years old, but you know.....I have to keep> > > > trying!.Sometimes I don´t know who is more autistic , my daughter or> > me!!> > > > Sequenzia, you were so helpful and kind to me when my daughter was at> > > > Kensington Park Elementary.. ..a

Long, long time ago.> > > > Thanks to all of you.> > > > Macias> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >> > > >

[Guest guest]

I agree as well. He probably has no clue what he says hurts anyone..its just how HE feels. I think we can learn a lot and gain insight as long as we remain open minded. If we turn him out, where does he go for self expression. ..Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: "Gabi" Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:32:17 -0000To: <sList >Subject: Re: NOTE FROM THE MODERATOR - PLEASE READ I second this. Although I don't really get the whole neurodiversity movement, or whatever, and didn't agree with most of his views,I thought the same... My son could be him in some 20+ years. Theory of mind is something amazing, and social rules probably apply here as well. We're all hurting, but we could show a little more compassion and understanding. It makes me very, very sad that this discussion has ended this way. > > > > > > > > > > > Hi!!! Could anybody please tell me , if there is a DAN > > doctor in the > > > > Miami > > > > > > Area. > > > > > > I have been buying tests by myself since my daughter´s prima > > ry doctor > > > > told > > > > > > me that " recovered autistics are just rumors " . > > > > > > I need to know if Medicaid-waiver covers any of those tests. > > > > > > My daughter is 25 years old, but you know.....I have to keep > > > > > > trying!.Sometimes I don´t know who is more autistic , my dau > > ghter or > > > > me!! > > > > > > Sequenzia, you were so helpful and kind to me when my > > daughter was at > > > > > > Kensington Park Elementary.. ..a Long, long time ago. > > > > > > Thanks to all of you. > > > > > > Macias > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I totally agree with . has been providing lots of valuable information to the list.... : You can't forget lots of possitive things because a bad one.... And look to me not intentional.... GabyThe Corporate Graphic Center13794 NW 4th StreetSuite 201Sunrise FL 33325www.tcgcenter.com

:I hope you will consider allowing back on our list group. I know you have a very difficult position but perhaps something can be worked out.How can we expect society to show tolerance to our children if we do not set the example. Just like when one of our children may hit, say inappropriate things, stim, tantrum etc. we hope that others will show empathy and be understanding. We pray that they will know that these actions are not intentional or done with malice. I am almost certain that did not have any intention to upset anyone.. He speaks the truth but lacks social skills like many of our children. Perhaps we can provide him with some specific concrete rules which he can apply. I think we all can learn a great deal from and at the same

time help him with his daily

struggles.

From: masterspowell <janet.powell@ ogletreedeakins.. com>Subject: Re: Dan Doctor in Miami Area.To: sList@ yahoogroups. comDate: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:54 PM

------------ --------- --------- --------With respect, yes - you were ridiculing. And you are now, as well, i.e. "This, incidentally, *is* mocking -- or at least mocking one ofthe sillier assertions contained in your message."You have no right to insult other people.. You seem lost on this point, as does your other friend on this list. I will not respond to any other posts on this matter from either you or her. It is truly a shame that a list that was once a place for support and resources for parents with autistic children here in South Florida has now turned sour and ugly because of a few bad apples. JanetMiami> > >> > > > Hi!!! Could anybody please tell me , if there is a DAN doctor in the> > Miami> > > > Area.> > > > I have been buying tests by myself since my daughter´s primary doctor> > told> > > > me that "recovered autistics are just rumors".> > > > I need to know if Medicaid-waiver covers any of those tests.> > > > My daughter is 25 years old, but you know.....I have to keep> > > > trying!.Sometimes I don´t know who is more autistic , my daughter or> > me!!> > > > Sequenzia, you were so helpful and kind to me when my daughter was at> > > > Kensington Park Elementary.. ..a

Long, long time ago.> > > > Thanks to all of you.> > > > Macias> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >> > > >