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Michele,

What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)? Then the sound

wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more easily " felt " than

" heard " when she is sleeping.

See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has been trained

so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she wakes easily and then is

" ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to sleep and she as well as " I "

need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push it until like Aubrie, she shows a

sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the Good Night is completely dry, other

times, it's sopping. No rhyme or reason; she's always fed the same (still tube

fed)...

Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie thought of that on

her own.

Good luck!

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I have been wondering when something will tempt me out of lurk mode and you

and Michele have found it for me. probably has the same issues as

Kennedy in terms of the fact that if she wakes to pee, she is likely to then

party for 2-3 hours before going back to sleep if at all; so maybe we too

will wait until she notices that being " dry " is a good thing and wants to

work on it. For the moment, both our girls are at the same stage so we can

persevere and I guess it may be an issue when notices that Elly is

not wearing pullups any more. We are trying without success (not very hard

I would add) to work out how we can get Elly dry at nights since she has

been dry in daytimes longer. She is still a little young so no rush, and

this takes the pressure off " big sis " as Elly calls .

Michele, please keep us posted of progress. I agree with , vibrating

alarm may be the way to go. Was just thinking of one for J. Hooray for

Aubrie for working it out for herself.

Flo

>

> Michele,

> What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)? Then the

> sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more easily

> " felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

>

> I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has been

> trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she wakes easily

> and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to sleep and

> she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push it until

> like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the Good Night

> is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or reason; she's

> always fed the same (still tube fed)...

>

> Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie thought of

> that on her own.

> Good luck!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I wondered about that. I hate to buy something special after spending money

on this regular one. And of course it was trash night so we through the

package away. If she doesn't begin to hear it soon, we'll have to change to

the vibrating one. Thanks for the link.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

Re: night-time potty plan

Michele,

What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)? Then the

sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more easily

" felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has been

trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she wakes easily

and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to sleep and

she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push it until

like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the Good Night

is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or reason; she's

always fed the same (still tube fed)...

Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie thought of

that on her own.

Good luck!

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Flo-

We all have to find our silver-linings. I guess mine is that Aubrie sleeps

so soundly and does get herself back to sleep when she awakes in the night.

Actually, a friend suggested trying to pay attention to her natural sleep

rhythms so I can set the alarm to wake during her natural light-sleep cycle.

Grand idea -- now how to pay attention to that when I'm sleeping??

Sometimes I hear her wake in the night and turn her music back on, but it's

one of those things I barely notice and don't wake up for. Thinking out

loud here-- I guess I could consider sleeping on the floor in her room just

long enough to chart her natural cycles. It wouldn't take long and I think

I'd awaken if I were in her room.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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,

I have been wondering when something will tempt me out of lurk mode and you

and Michele have found it for me. probably has the same issues as

Kennedy in terms of the fact that if she wakes to pee, she is likely to then

party for 2-3 hours before going back to sleep if at all; so maybe we too

will wait until she notices that being " dry " is a good thing and wants to

work on it. For the moment, both our girls are at the same stage so we can

persevere and I guess it may be an issue when notices that Elly is

not wearing pullups any more. We are trying without success (not very hard

I would add) to work out how we can get Elly dry at nights since she has

been dry in daytimes longer. She is still a little young so no rush, and

this takes the pressure off " big sis " as Elly calls .

Michele, please keep us posted of progress. I agree with , vibrating

alarm may be the way to go. Was just thinking of one for J. Hooray for

Aubrie for working it out for herself.

Flo

>

> Michele,

> What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)? Then the

> sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more easily

> " felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

>

> I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has been

> trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she wakes

easily

> and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to sleep and

> she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push it until

> like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the Good

Night

> is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or reason; she's

> always fed the same (still tube fed)...

>

> Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie thought of

> that on her own.

> Good luck!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I don't think they're that expensive; but I'm not sure which ones hook up with

which alarm clocks. Good luck with it all; we'll all be waiting to hear how it

goes.

Michele Westmaas wrote:

I wondered about that. I hate to buy something special after spending money

on this regular one. And of course it was trash night so we through the

package away. If she doesn't begin to hear it soon, we'll have to change to

the vibrating one. Thanks for the link.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

Re: night-time potty plan

Michele,

What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)? Then the

sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more easily

" felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has been

trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she wakes easily

and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to sleep and

she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push it until

like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the Good Night

is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or reason; she's

always fed the same (still tube fed)...

Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie thought of

that on her own.

Good luck!

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Michele-

I saw something on Good Morning, America last week that may be your

solution to identifying Aubrie's natural sleep cycles. They make a

wrist watch/alarm clock that wakes you when you are in light sleep,

as opposed to deep sleep. Even if Aubrie doesn't wake for it, maybe

you would hear it and be able to wake her then. Of course, I have

no idea what it was called, but you could check the GMA website (I

think it is: www.abcnews.com). I'm pretty sure is was last Tues or

Wed (2/7 or 2/8).

Kate (PT to a CHARGEr)

> >

> > Michele,

> > What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)?

Then the

> > sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe

more easily

> > " felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> > See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?

cPath=1140_42_125

> >

> > I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has

been

> > trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she

wakes

> easily

> > and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to

sleep and

> > she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to

push it until

> > like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the

Good

> Night

> > is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or

reason; she's

> > always fed the same (still tube fed)...

> >

> > Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie

thought of

> > that on her own.

> > Good luck!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Cool- I'll check!

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

Re: night-time potty plan

Michele-

I saw something on Good Morning, America last week that may be your

solution to identifying Aubrie's natural sleep cycles. They make a

wrist watch/alarm clock that wakes you when you are in light sleep,

as opposed to deep sleep. Even if Aubrie doesn't wake for it, maybe

you would hear it and be able to wake her then. Of course, I have

no idea what it was called, but you could check the GMA website (I

think it is: www.abcnews.com). I'm pretty sure is was last Tues or

Wed (2/7 or 2/8).

Kate (PT to a CHARGEr)

> >

> > Michele,

> > What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)?

Then the

> > sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe

more easily

> > " felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> > See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?

cPath=1140_42_125

> >

> > I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has

been

> > trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she

wakes

> easily

> > and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to

sleep and

> > she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to

push it until

> > like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the

Good

> Night

> > is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or

reason; she's

> > always fed the same (still tube fed)...

> >

> > Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie

thought of

> > that on her own.

> > Good luck!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Michele,

A vibrating alarm may indeed be a good idea. As you may have noted on

the list a number of the older CHARGErs have issues with wetting. The

over-night kind with , oddly, we've usually associated in the past with

an ear infection.

What I now do, just as I avoided it when she was younger, is to take her

to the bathroom right before I go to bed. This almost always avoids an

accident and really doesn't seem to disturb her. I resisted doing this for

years because I detested the woman who suggested it! That said, I have

no idea if it would have been so successful and non-stressful when she

was younger. Just keep it in mind. Martha

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good thoughts martha i just posted about my recent endo if you could

read that coz im confused on this med that i knwo ylou have used

hugs ellen

>

> Michele,

> A vibrating alarm may indeed be a good idea. As you may have

noted on

> the list a number of the older CHARGErs have issues with wetting.

The

> over-night kind with , oddly, we've usually associated in the

past with

> an ear infection.

> What I now do, just as I avoided it when she was younger, is to

take her

> to the bathroom right before I go to bed. This almost always

avoids an

> accident and really doesn't seem to disturb her. I resisted doing

this for

> years because I detested the woman who suggested it! That said, I

have

> no idea if it would have been so successful and non-stressful when

she

> was younger. Just keep it in mind. Martha

>

>

>

>

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good thoughts martha i just posted about my recent endo if you could

read that coz im confused on this med that i knwo ylou have used

hugs ellen

>

> Michele,

> A vibrating alarm may indeed be a good idea. As you may have

noted on

> the list a number of the older CHARGErs have issues with wetting.

The

> over-night kind with , oddly, we've usually associated in the

past with

> an ear infection.

> What I now do, just as I avoided it when she was younger, is to

take her

> to the bathroom right before I go to bed. This almost always

avoids an

> accident and really doesn't seem to disturb her. I resisted doing

this for

> years because I detested the woman who suggested it! That said, I

have

> no idea if it would have been so successful and non-stressful when

she

> was younger. Just keep it in mind. Martha

>

>

>

>

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This was going to be my suggestion, too. And has the best one.

This is such a wonderful thing for Aubrie--and her own recognition of " the

situation " is just so neat.

Good luck with it all--I am sure it will all be a rousing success.

pam

Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS

Licensed Educational Psychologist

Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program

175 North Beacon St.

Watertown, MA 02472

> ----------

> From: CHARGE on behalf of Weir

> Reply To: CHARGE

> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:09 PM

> To: CHARGE

> Subject: Re: night-time potty plan

>

> Michele,

> What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)? Then the sound

wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more easily " felt " than

" heard " when she is sleeping.

> See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

>

> I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has been trained

so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she wakes easily and then is

" ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to sleep and she as well as " I "

need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push it until like Aubrie, she shows a

sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the Good Night is completely dry, other

times, it's sopping. No rhyme or reason; she's always fed the same (still tube

fed)...

>

> Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie thought of that

on her own.

> Good luck!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, Martha. I'm starting to regret that she brought this up. I'm

worried that we won't have success and she'll feel inferior to her peers.

Last night again, she would not wake up -- this was early, before I went to

bed. I emailed the company that makes the watch that wakes you during light

sleep to see if will work on a child -- how well does it have to fit, etc.

Plus I made a request for a reduced price. It's $150! That's ok for a

traveling exec who will use it long-term, but a short-term solution for a

child is a different story.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

RE: Re: night-time potty plan

Michele,

A vibrating alarm may indeed be a good idea. As you may have noted on

the list a number of the older CHARGErs have issues with wetting. The

over-night kind with , oddly, we've usually associated in the past with

an ear infection.

What I now do, just as I avoided it when she was younger, is to take her

to the bathroom right before I go to bed. This almost always avoids an

accident and really doesn't seem to disturb her. I resisted doing this for

years because I detested the woman who suggested it! That said, I have

no idea if it would have been so successful and non-stressful when she

was younger. Just keep it in mind. Martha

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Pam-

has several models. Is there one that you guys have used most

successfully? No hurry in reply -- I'm not sure that we will need one but

it seems that we're heading in that direction.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

Re: night-time potty plan

>

> Michele,

> What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)? Then the

sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more easily

" felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

>

> I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has been

trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she wakes easily

and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to sleep and

she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push it until

like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the Good Night

is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or reason; she's

always fed the same (still tube fed)...

>

> Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie thought of

that on her own.

> Good luck!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Michele,

we have usually purchased the least expensive for just all the reasons you said

before: you don't want to spend a lot of money if it isn't going to work. It

should be just fine. She is a little girl and will not be using it in a " hard "

way (college kids, high school kids). I also want to add that I think you are

also right about not stressing. She will get there--no need to put the pressure

on. She can also understand the wonderfulness of her learning about her own

body and how hers may take some extra time to do these things (being dry and

under her own command). She knows the basics, now the next step is for her to

notice the feelings and then to have her body respond--it takes some time and

she is not out of the norm for this. She is in the same boat as a lot of kids

her age--problems or no.

pam

Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS

Licensed Educational Psychologist

Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program

175 North Beacon St.

Watertown, MA 02472

> ----------

> From: CHARGE on behalf of Michele Westmaas

> Reply To: CHARGE

> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:37 AM

> To: CHARGE

> Subject: RE: night-time potty plan

>

> Pam-

> has several models. Is there one that you guys have used most

> successfully? No hurry in reply -- I'm not sure that we will need one but

> it seems that we're heading in that direction.

>

> Michele W

> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

>

>

> Re: night-time potty plan

> >

> > Michele,

> > What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)? Then the

> sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more easily

> " felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> > See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

> >

> > I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has been

> trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she wakes easily

> and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to sleep and

> she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push it until

> like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the Good Night

> is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or reason; she's

> always fed the same (still tube fed)...

> >

> > Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie thought of

> that on her own.

> > Good luck!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Pam-

We talked just this am about my sister's bedwetting as an older child -- and

how lucky we are to live in the times of GoodNights! A best friend here in

town has a daughter who wasn't dry til about age 10 -- so Aubrie will be

encouraged to know about her. I think we can keep the pressure off. If we

don't have some success soon, maybe we'll wait and try again later.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

Re: night-time potty plan

> >

> > Michele,

> > What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)? Then the

> sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more easily

> " felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> > See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

> >

> > I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has been

> trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she wakes

easily

> and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to sleep and

> she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push it until

> like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the Good

Night

> is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or reason; she's

> always fed the same (still tube fed)...

> >

> > Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie thought of

> that on her own.

> > Good luck!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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- just looking through ebay....check this out

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sonic-Boom-Alarm-Clock-Powerfull-Bed-Shaker-BRAND-

NEW_W0QQitemZ5666281224QQcategoryZ37821QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Oops, you'll have to cut and paste but I think this is what you may

be looking for. And it's inexpensive!!! $32.99 with free S & H.

>

> Pam-

> We talked just this am about my sister's bedwetting as an older

child -- and

> how lucky we are to live in the times of GoodNights! A best friend

here in

> town has a daughter who wasn't dry til about age 10 -- so Aubrie

will be

> encouraged to know about her. I think we can keep the pressure

off. If we

> don't have some success soon, maybe we'll wait and try again later.

>

> Michele W

> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

>

>

> Re: night-time potty plan

> > >

> > > Michele,

> > > What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)?

Then the

> > sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more

easily

> > " felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> > > See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?

cPath=1140_42_125

> > >

> > > I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she

has been

> > trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she

wakes

> easily

> > and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to

sleep and

> > she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push

it until

> > like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the

Good

> Night

> > is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or

reason; she's

> > always fed the same (still tube fed)...

> > >

> > > Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie

thought of

> > that on her own.

> > > Good luck!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Thanks! I'll compare that to the ones thru and see which have the

highest Dbs and the most powerful shaker!! (What a strange concept -- never

thought I'd be in the market for sonic boom bed shakers!)

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

Re: night-time potty plan

> > >

> > > Michele,

> > > What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)?

Then the

> > sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more

easily

> > " felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> > > See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?

cPath=1140_42_125

> > >

> > > I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she

has been

> > trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she

wakes

> easily

> > and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to

sleep and

> > she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push

it until

> > like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the

Good

> Night

> > is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or

reason; she's

> > always fed the same (still tube fed)...

> > >

> > > Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie

thought of

> > that on her own.

> > > Good luck!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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check the manual that came with the one you bought, -- some of the

newer fancier " hearing " alarm clocks have a jack (like a headphones jack

sorta) for a pillow vibration attatchment

it may not have one, but it wouldn't hurt to check, and the vibration

attachment would probably be cheaper than a whole new clock.

just my $ .02

Cole

>

> I wondered about that. I hate to buy something special after spending

> money

> on this regular one. And of course it was trash night so we through the

> package away. If she doesn't begin to hear it soon, we'll have to change

> to

> the vibrating one. Thanks for the link.

>

> Michele W

> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

>

> Re: night-time potty plan

>

> Michele,

> What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)? Then the

> sound wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more easily

> " felt " than " heard " when she is sleeping.

> See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

>

> I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has been

> trained so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she wakes

> easily

> and then is " ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to sleep and

> she as well as " I " need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push it until

> like Aubrie, she shows a sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the Good

> Night

> is completely dry, other times, it's sopping. No rhyme or reason; she's

> always fed the same (still tube fed)...

>

> Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie thought of

> that on her own.

> Good luck!

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Another great idea. You guys are awesome!

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

Re: night-time potty plan

check the manual that came with the one you bought, -- some of the

newer fancier " hearing " alarm clocks have a jack (like a headphones jack

sorta) for a pillow vibration attatchment

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On the night time training. Our daughter Cassie is 15 and is wet at night. She

has had the whole urologist work-up. We even tried the inter-stim implantable

stimulater to control the night time wetting. We went for a second opinion and

this urologist told us that they never do the inter-stim for bed wetting. his

recommendation was to purchase a bed wetting alarm. It goes off at the first

drop of urine and then this is to wake Cassie up and eventually (hopefully, he

said there is a 80% success rate) it will train her brain to train her bladder.

It can take up to 3 months or more to do this. It is a pain to be woke up and

change the panties and to change the pull-up. She wears her panties with the

pull-up over otherwise the alarm did not sense the wetness with just the

pull-up. We are on our second week, so I will keep you updated. Some nights she

must be in such a deep sleep that she just pulls off the alarm and doesn't

remember doing it in the morning. Cassie wants this to work so

badly, it would boost her self-esteem up so much to be able to do this.

So.......say a prayer or two for her.

Also, we purchased a vibrating alarm for her to put under her pillow, it works

great. Until it falls on the floor doing the night and then when it does go off

it wakes the whole house. Oh well, gotta smile we will work on that.

Cheryl

Weir wrote:

Michele,

What about a vibrating alarm clock (goes under your pillow)? Then the sound

wouldn't wake the rest of the house and would be maybe more easily " felt " than

" heard " when she is sleeping.

See: http://www.harriscomm.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=1140_42_125

I have thought about night training for Kennedy too as she has been trained

so long in the daytime but I'm really torn because she wakes easily and then is

" ready to go " for the day. She will NOT go back to sleep and she as well as " I "

need my sleep. I'm probably not going to push it until like Aubrie, she shows a

sign of wanting to. Some mornings, the Good Night is completely dry, other

times, it's sopping. No rhyme or reason; she's always fed the same (still tube

fed)...

Good luck with everything, I think it's AWESOME that Aubrie thought of that on

her own.

Good luck!

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Cheryl-

Thanks for sharing your experience with Cassie. I can picture Aubrie in the

same place in the future. Do let us know how the inter-stim works. If we

use the vibrator, I'll have to rig up some Velcro to keep it in place!

When did Cassie achieve daytime dryness? Does she sleep well thru the

night? I've been thankful that Aubrie potty-trained by day at age 4 or so

and has always been a good sleeper. Now it seems that it's a double-edged

sword when the deep sleep keeps her from night dryness.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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Michele, Cassie acieved daytime dryness around 3 or4 if I remember correctly. We

try not to make a big deal of the nightime stuff. Cassie always wears the

pull-up and that is the way it is. She feels awful about it, so I have always

tried to tell her that everyone has " junk " in their closets and behind closed

doors.This one just happens to be hers and hopefully she can get rid of it. The

inter-stim did not work, that is why we are doing the night time alarm. We also

tried all the different medications, which were not successful. They might work

for your daughter, but I would not make a big deal out of it right now, until it

really starts to bother her.

Cheryl

Michele Westmaas wrote:

Cheryl-

Thanks for sharing your experience with Cassie. I can picture Aubrie in the

same place in the future. Do let us know how the inter-stim works. If we

use the vibrator, I'll have to rig up some Velcro to keep it in place!

When did Cassie achieve daytime dryness? Does she sleep well thru the

night? I've been thankful that Aubrie potty-trained by day at age 4 or so

and has always been a good sleeper. Now it seems that it's a double-edged

sword when the deep sleep keeps her from night dryness.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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Cheryl-

Again -- thanks for telling me about Cassie. I like the conversation about

" junk " in the closets. I'll hold on to that one!

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

RE: night-time potty plan

Michele, Cassie acieved daytime dryness around 3 or4 if I remember

correctly. We try not to make a big deal of the nightime stuff. Cassie

always wears the pull-up and that is the way it is. She feels awful about

it, so I have always tried to tell her that everyone has " junk " in their

closets and behind closed doors.This one just happens to be hers and

hopefully she can get rid of it. The inter-stim did not work, that is why we

are doing the night time alarm. We also tried all the different medications,

which were not successful. They might work for your daughter, but I would

not make a big deal out of it right now, until it really starts to bother

her.

Cheryl

Michele Westmaas wrote:

Cheryl-

Thanks for sharing your experience with Cassie. I can picture Aubrie in the

same place in the future. Do let us know how the inter-stim works. If we

use the vibrator, I'll have to rig up some Velcro to keep it in place!

When did Cassie achieve daytime dryness? Does she sleep well thru the

night? I've been thankful that Aubrie potty-trained by day at age 4 or so

and has always been a good sleeper. Now it seems that it's a double-edged

sword when the deep sleep keeps her from night dryness.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

please contact marion@... or visit

the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org - for CHARGE Syndrome Canada

information and membership, please visit http://www.chargesyndrome.ca or

email info@... .

8th International

CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

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Just a FYI - I contacted the company that makes the watch that wakes you.

They are working on developing one that will help kids and night-wetting.

But it's still in the works. So... put that idea on hold for now. But it's

something we'll want to watch for in the future.

Michele W

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