Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 > > I do it after almost everything I say. It's a little noise that I make after everything. Drives people nuts. > < > > > funny, i've never noticed it... > Of course, you didn't, . Too busy shaking your leg, rocking and flicking your fingers.... Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Hand flapping is a warning sign. Is he dx'd? You don't say & I can't remember. Here's a web site you might find helpful. http://coping.org/earlyin/content.htm and especially http://coping.org/earlyin/pdq.htm -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 > My son 27 months, has begun talking and naming things finally. At > the same time, he's begun hand flapping. Should I consider it > another sign of autism, or a normal display of frustration or > excitement for his age. > , My older daughter (almost 14 and SO NT it ain't funny...) used to cock her mouth wide open and flap her hands when she was very excited at that age; I think it is a sign of overload, and if you see other oddities that indicate a problem it may be something to watch, but I wouldn't consider it by itself a symptom of autism. Raena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 No he hasn't been diagnosed. He's 2, and the doctors say its too early to tell for sure. They wanted to monitor his progress for a year. He will be re-evaluated in April, but in the meantime he gets speech and occupational therapy weekly. > Hand flapping is a warning sign. > > Is he dx'd? You don't say & I can't remember. > > Here's a web site you might find helpful. > > http://coping.org/earlyin/content.htm > > and especially > > http://coping.org/earlyin/pdq.htm > > -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Thanks sara...Zach has seen his pediatrician (godsend) a neurologist (mostly to rule out cranios(big ass word) to see if he needed his skull sutures separated) and a developmental pediatrician. He sees both the developmental pediatrician and regular pediatrician again in April. The early childhood intervention people work closely with the pediatrician. Its a collective thing. > > No he hasn't been diagnosed. He's 2, and the doctors say its too > > early to tell for sure. They wanted to monitor his progress for a > > was dx'd on his 2nd birthday, and I have heard of others being dx'd > at 1. But I am sure it depends on the severity of the delays. Gabe's > recent eval labeled him " at risk " and speech delayed, but I got the same > kind of thing - he just didn't fit any other diagnostic criteria at the > time; re-eval in 6 months and start intervention in the meantime. I do not > think he is really on the spectrum but he does have quite a few signs of it, > so we are watching him closely. > > You could contact your state autism list and ask there who " the " people are > to see in your area. Doctors with more experience and knowledge in autism > naturally are able to diagnose cases earlier, and that means earlier > treatment and a better prognosis. > > Certainly I do NOT mean to say that your doctors are wrong, and you sound > like you are on top of things. MANY kids on this list were not dx'd by 3, > or even by 4 or 5! And here you already have speech & OT going. Good for > you! It's just that I know how very difficult it can be to get the > diagnosis you need in order to get the help you need. I am only trying to > offer things that might smooth that path for you, if you need them. > > > year. He will be re-evaluated in April, but in the meantime he gets > > speech and occupational therapy weekly. > > That is so excellent! Even after was dx'd he was only getting an > hour of intervention a MONTH. We've had to do our share of battles to get > him what he's entitled to...and we won't even talk about what he NEEDS...:/ > > If I missed you - I'm Sara, wife to Matt, mom to (3, autism) and > Gabe (19 mos, speech delay) and 'Punkin' due in late May. Welcome to the > group! > > -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 > I've been trying not to post too much as I know how hard it is to > keep up with these threads but I have a question. My son 27 months, > has begun talking and naming things finally. At the same time, he's > begun hand flapping. Should I consider it another sign of autism, or > a normal display of frustration or excitement for his age. > > All I can tell you is that Mitchel has been flapping his arm/hands in wild motions for as long as I can remember. (he's 7 now) He also does a LOT of pacing (and his breathing always seems to be exagerated). Kerri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 , I'm assuming this is the child you already suspect of being spectrum. If he is naming things, or labeling them, and does a lot of hand flapping, I would be concerned. These are autistic traits if done in excess. If you see much more showing up in him that alarms you, you may want to bring it up with the Dr.s that say that he is too young to diagnose. Again, the important thing is that he is already getting the services that he needs which I believe you said he is. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 -- was a mild handflapper when he was young, however, it seemed to come back with a vengence as of late. Its interesting because he seems to do it when hyper or when in his hyper/manic phase. I think when he is anxious or whatever it gets more intense. He kinda has a mixture of internal (thats the bp) and external (the pdd) overstimulation. He does a lot of pacing and jumping too. He also does this thing where he just blurts silly stuff out like " grandmas leaving on an airplane " thea - In parenting_autism , " shanley_n_teresa <shanley_n_teresa@y...> " <shanley_n_teresa@y...> wrote: > I've been trying not to post too much as I know how hard it is to > keep up with these threads but I have a question. My son 27 months, > has begun talking and naming things finally. At the same time, he's > begun hand flapping. Should I consider it another sign of autism, or > a normal display of frustration or excitement for his age. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 Would someone explain exactly what hand flapping looks like? Of course I've heard of it and been asked about it for Jake, but I don't think I've ever observed it. I'm wondering what it looks like exactly. Thanks, Karin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 When was littler he only did it when he was running. I thought he was waving bye-bye with both hands while he ran. I thought it was rather cute. Gabe holds his arms up with his wrists at about shoulder level. His wrists are limp. He moves his arms slightly up and down and his hands " flap " up and down loosely on his wrists. tends to keep his hands down at his sides, and shake his hands more side-to-side without moving his arms much. He will also keep his arms rigidly at his sides and hold his hands in strange positions - that's not hand-flapping but it's a related sensory issue for him. Some kids will hold their hands in front of their eyes and flick or wiggle their fingers or just stare at their hands. This is sometimes included in the same " category " as hand-flapping. Does that help? -Sara. > Would someone explain exactly what hand flapping looks like? Of course > I've heard of it and been asked about it for Jake, but I don't think > I've ever observed it. I'm wondering what it looks like exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 I used to think of it as just excitement but now I dont know. I never noticed Greggory's until they pointed it out and Alec didnt until he was older. I think I just dont know..... Jacquie H hand flapping I've been trying not to post too much as I know how hard it is to keep up with these threads but I have a question. My son 27 months, has begun talking and naming things finally. At the same time, he's begun hand flapping. Should I consider it another sign of autism, or a normal display of frustration or excitement for his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 Jacquie, Sometimes it doesn't show until they are excited, but it's still the same hand flapping. I've never seen a nt child do it, although someone here said nt kids can do it. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 Liesel is what I call a subtle hand flapper, it's obvious of course but she only does it at certain times. When she is distressed or is trying to avoid something she doesn't want to do. In her way it is sometimes the only she can express her displeasure about something. She usually does it in front of her face, as if she is pushing you away. Louisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 > Message: 6 > <snip> > Does that help? > > -Sara. Yes, thanks Sara! I wanted to know what it looks like so that if I see it in other kids in the family or a future child I would know it when I saw it. Jake has had plenty of these type of behaviors, but not hand-flapping. ~ Karin BTW, I just read about in the fish tank.... I echo your statement.... O.M.G........ Thank goodness he is OK. I have found Jake in predicaments like that before - a simultaneous huge mess and the dawning of what could have happened to him...... here come the gray hairs!!!! Aaauuuggh! ~ Karin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 > BTW, I just read about in the fish tank.... I echo your > statement.... O.M.G........ Thank goodness he is OK. I have found > Jake in predicaments like that before - a simultaneous huge mess and the > dawning of what could have happened to him...... here come the gray > hairs!!!! Aaauuuggh! Thanks. Yes, I think they all just came in at the same time... -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 I have see alot of NT kids hand flap when excited. I think it just looks a little different when autistic kids do it. Sounds dumb. And alot of typical babies hand flap. I need more sleep. Jacquie H Re: hand flapping Jacquie, Sometimes it doesn't show until they are excited, but it's still the same hand flapping. I've never seen a nt child do it, although someone here said nt kids can do it. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 OMG is right. lol The things we never realize. Hmmmmm..... Jacquie H Re: hand flapping My god. As I'm reading this thread, I have realized...*I* flap my hands when I'm excited! Oh. My. Gawd. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 I do it too. Excited, or anxious, or nervous. I do it the same way does - down at my sides - but more in front of me than he does. It is soothing. I can't tell you why. -Sara. > As I'm reading this thread, I have realized...*I* flap my hands when I'm > excited! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 not hand flapping at all for me. But I do bounce my right leg when I feel anxious or sick and when in pain i will shake both of my legs. This for me is soothing. Jacquie H RE: hand flapping I do it too. Excited, or anxious, or nervous. I do it the same way does - down at my sides - but more in front of me than he does. It is soothing. I can't tell you why. -Sara. > As I'm reading this thread, I have realized...*I* flap my hands when I'm > excited! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 , the hand flapping is probably directly related to the talking. I find that whenever makes progress in one area, he regresses temporarily in another, almost always beginning to stim more in some fasion, be it hand-fascination, number fascination, vocalizing, whatever. It's as if all of his brain power is wrapped up in the overwhelming task of learning the new skill that everything else takes a back seat for a while. It goes away, though, as he integrates the new skill into his life. Congrats on the talking!!! Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 My god. As I'm reading this thread, I have realized...*I* flap my hands when I'm excited! Oh. My. Gawd. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 > I do bounce my right leg when I feel anxious or sick < as i read this, my leg was going a mile a minute. i also tend to rock and flick my fingers... " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 See I don't hand flap instead i have a much more annoying tendency. I laugh, I have no clue I'm doing it unless I pay close attention to what I'm saying. I do it after almost everything I say. It's a little noise that I make after everything. Drives people nuts. Re: hand flapping > I do bounce my right leg when I feel anxious or sick < as i read this, my leg was going a mile a minute. i also tend to rock and flick my fingers... " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 > I do it after almost everything I say. It's a little noise that I make after everything. Drives people nuts. < funny, i've never noticed it... " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 > as i read this, my leg was going a mile a minute. i also tend to > rock and flick my fingers... Oh yes, I rock all the time. Once I was watching Nell, and there is a scene where she's in the psych hospital and she's sitting there rocking, and when the scene came on I was also sitting cross-legged on the floor rocking...... -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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