self defence/judo/karate

[Guest guest]

well Chip-you're a genius, and I'm an old lady!

I didn't know there were customized classes like that.

I'm glad U found that for yourself.

[Guest guest]

Dear Chantelle,

I honestly can't remember the last time I had a conversation that went

soooooo wrong,

I did not mean a single word the way it apparently came across, but thats

life, I guess.

I'm not going to try to explain myself. I doubt if it would go any better

the second time around. (LOL)

I hope U get the answer U're looking for, and one that doesn't offend U.

Certainly, as a mom of a charger-I was not in any way trying to offend you.

My apologies for all.

[Guest guest]

Hey i have a question. I want to learn some sort of self defence.

However all family say cause of my many jaw operations and my eye

problems i shouldnt learn self defence/judo/karate. However i feel

this is rather dumb acutaly. I dont feel safe when i go out cause of

past life trama. I want to feel that i can protect myself. I want to

know that if someone grabs me, i can get out. What kind of judo/self

defence can i do????

Chantelle (CHARGE)

[Guest guest]

Chantelle,

I would agree that taking a class that involves actual sparring (hitting

each other for real) would be dangerous for you. My sister is a black belt

and believe me she has had some doozies from an inexperienced person doing

it wrong.

BUT

There are martial arts that you can learn for your self, to improve balance,

feeling of control and well-being, increase strength and so on and that

focus on OFFENSE (protecting yourself). A lot of times it depends on the

philosophy and style of the " Master " . I would stop by any places that are

close to you and watch what they do in the beginning adult classes, and if

you can see yourself learning these things, then talk to someone there.

Another option is simply a self-defense class. These are taught by many

advocacy groups and the police department here. In these classes you learn

simple tricks to avoid being a victim and ways to get out of a situation.

Knowledge is power.

Kim

> Hey i have a question. I want to learn some sort of self defence.

> However all family say cause of my many jaw operations and my eye

> problems i shouldnt learn self defence/judo/karate. However i feel

> this is rather dumb acutaly. I dont feel safe when i go out cause of

> past life trama. I want to feel that i can protect myself. I want to

> know that if someone grabs me, i can get out. What kind of judo/self

> defence can i do????

>

> Chantelle (CHARGE)

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[Guest guest]

Yes i think its self defence more then anything. I want to do some of

those streches and stuff they do. Not the fighting ones. but the other

one. The one thats just self and balance.

Oh for the other person who says i dont have much faith/religious

stuff. I do, i just dont share my belifes/religious practices with

this board cause im sure it would erk a few people. Always irritates

me when people tell me to join a religious group. I am a member of a

religious group. Just not Catholic lol.

Chantelle

[Guest guest]

does t mater catholic or not i am catholic but to me that doesnt matter to

me my religion beliefs in god doesnt mean i can or cant do stuff jsut faith

in him can help a little bit um i hope i put that right dont think i did lol

wat i mean is that though i believe in god i dont use him to gain

confidwence or my catholic beliefs i dotn go to church eather grandma does

to me he is there for our spiritual well being not for our physical well he

is but doesnt conrol our balnace we do that hugs ellen in aus

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> Yes i think its self defence more then anything. I want to do some of

> those streches and stuff they do. Not the fighting ones. but the other

> one. The one thats just self and balance.

>

> Oh for the other person who says i dont have much faith/religious

> stuff. I do, i just dont share my belifes/religious practices with

> this board cause im sure it would erk a few people. Always irritates

> me when people tell me to join a religious group. I am a member of a

> religious group. Just not Catholic lol.

>

> Chantelle

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org - for CHARGE Syndrome Canada

> information and membership, please visit http://www.chargesyndrome.ca or

> email info@... .

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

[Guest guest]

Chantelle-

I only have our limited few months in karate, but I can tell you that it's

one of the best things I've seen thus far for Aubrie. It's giving her

confidence. I know she'll be better able to defend herself if anyone should

bully her or, eegads, attack her someday. But there are so many benefits

beyond that -- the physical fitness, the focus, the coordination, the

balance...

She can't do it all very well. But her instructor appreciates her efforts

and focuses on what she can do. I would say that any of the martial arts (I

don't know the difference between them all) could be beneficial to you in

many ways. But the instructor and the attitude of the school would be a big

factor. I'd suggest you visit some near you, let them know your limitations

and your goals, and see you seems best equipped and willing to help you

reach those goals.

You wear safety gear during sparring but you can also choose to only do

non-contact portions of the training.

Michele W

Aubrie's mom

[Guest guest]

Chantelle,

I like Tai Chi. It is gentle, for me it is like a very calming dance. Yet

when you do it consistently, you build great strength. You can feel totally

rooted in the earth and it is not a fighting art, but with the strength and

reflexes, you can deflect most anything. (of course when you get good)

I never worked towards that goal, but did it for my spirit. I had to stop

for awhile, but would love to get back to it.

Kim

> Yes i think its self defence more then anything. I want to do some of

> those streches and stuff they do. Not the fighting ones. but the other

> one. The one thats just self and balance.

>

> Oh for the other person who says i dont have much faith/religious

> stuff. I do, i just dont share my belifes/religious practices with

> this board cause im sure it would erk a few people. Always irritates

> me when people tell me to join a religious group. I am a member of a

> religious group. Just not Catholic lol.

>

> Chantelle

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the

> CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org - for CHARGE Syndrome Canada

> information and membership, please visit http://www.chargesyndrome.ca or email

> info@... .

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

[Guest guest]

Chantelle,

I think you do a good job describing the startle you get when you are

jostled. Many times people get overly jumpy (I jump out of my skin with

loud noises behind me, since my dad died) when they have had a lot of bad

things happen. Recognizing that your instinct is to spray everyone is

healthy of you and so is looking for other answers.

On the faith, I am not sure was referring so much to " religion " per

se. I don't know how to describe it, but I believe my greatest strength if

I were attacked would be my gentleness, if I could remain calm. I tell

myself that the real danger is fear, because fear keeps me from thinking

straight. So if I can stay calm, and call on my inner strength, which for

me is spiritual, then I feel like that faith is what will protect me. I

always pray I never have to test the theory. I don't know many that share

that faith or belief, but I get a feeling that is what was referring

to.

I also really like how you identify the need to learn to walk with

confidence. You may not know it, but it does increase your safety.

Kim

> Yes i think its self defence more then anything. I want to do some of

> those streches and stuff they do. Not the fighting ones. but the other

> one. The one thats just self and balance.

>

> Oh for the other person who says i dont have much faith/religious

> stuff. I do, i just dont share my belifes/religious practices with

> this board cause im sure it would erk a few people. Always irritates

> me when people tell me to join a religious group. I am a member of a

> religious group. Just not Catholic lol.

>

> Chantelle

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>

>

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the

> CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org - for CHARGE Syndrome Canada

> information and membership, please visit http://www.chargesyndrome.ca or email

> info@... .

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Chantelle

You may have read on the listserve at some earlier point that both Flo and I

do/or have done Karate for many years and are both Black belts. I have also

done judo (for quite a number of years) and aikido. Neither judo nor aikido

I think are suitable for you given the amount of breakfalling and being

thrown you will suffer - indeed I do not think I could cope with that now.

Karate will help you considrably with balance, co ordination, fitness and

self confidence but only if you train regularly and for a period of time.

Many senior karate practitioners do question the practicality of karate as

effective self defence primarily because the majority of attacks or assaults

occur when the victim is unprepared or there is a large size difference

between attacker and victim). It is true that if you have trained for many

years it should help but what a martial art will do is give you confidence

to assess a situation, not panic and hopefully get the hell out of there. In

this context self defence classes are not very useful because they are

usually taught in a course. Any self defence/martial art technique needs to

be practised and practised to be any good so a one off self course is not

effective.

As Michele said (I think) you need to look around at what clubs and styles

there are. Flo and I have trained in Shotokan and belong to one of the major

world organisations. You need to watch classes of different clubs to see

whether they are suitable for you - there are so many Mcdojos around that

just want your money. If you are serious let me know because I lurk on a

serious karate forum and can make enquiries as what clubs people can

recommend in your area.

Flo and I intend and Elly to do Karate, I also know of a karate

instructor about 30 miles from us (I know this is of no use to you!) who

specialises in teaching deafblind students so they are about.

Kim makes a good point about Tai Chi. This would be very good to do. It is

actually a very effective martial art - the untrained eye may not see that

the moves are blocks, punches, ankle sweeps etc.

Unfortunatetly if you are looking for best and immediate protection is

right a weapon is best - that goes for me as well (I am only 5ft 8in tall).

You carry one don't you - your deafblind stick. Shins, sides of knees are

usually unprotected and the favourite - the groin - a good hard crack or two

with your stick may get you out of a situation.

Simon

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[Guest guest]

LOL simon love that a godo old wack with the stick

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> Hi Chantelle

>

> You may have read on the listserve at some earlier point that both Flo and

> I

> do/or have done Karate for many years and are both Black belts. I have

> also

> done judo (for quite a number of years) and aikido. Neither judo nor

> aikido

> I think are suitable for you given the amount of breakfalling and being

> thrown you will suffer - indeed I do not think I could cope with that now.

>

> Karate will help you considrably with balance, co ordination, fitness and

> self confidence but only if you train regularly and for a period of time.

> Many senior karate practitioners do question the practicality of karate as

> effective self defence primarily because the majority of attacks or

> assaults

> occur when the victim is unprepared or there is a large size difference

> between attacker and victim). It is true that if you have trained for many

> years it should help but what a martial art will do is give you confidence

> to assess a situation, not panic and hopefully get the hell out of there.

> In

> this context self defence classes are not very useful because they are

> usually taught in a course. Any self defence/martial art technique needs

> to

> be practised and practised to be any good so a one off self course is not

> effective.

>

> As Michele said (I think) you need to look around at what clubs and styles

> there are. Flo and I have trained in Shotokan and belong to one of the

> major

> world organisations. You need to watch classes of different clubs to see

> whether they are suitable for you - there are so many Mcdojos around that

> just want your money. If you are serious let me know because I lurk on a

> serious karate forum and can make enquiries as what clubs people can

> recommend in your area.

>

> Flo and I intend and Elly to do Karate, I also know of a karate

> instructor about 30 miles from us (I know this is of no use to you!) who

> specialises in teaching deafblind students so they are about.

>

> Kim makes a good point about Tai Chi. This would be very good to do. It is

> actually a very effective martial art - the untrained eye may not see that

> the moves are blocks, punches, ankle sweeps etc.

>

> Unfortunatetly if you are looking for best and immediate protection

> is

> right a weapon is best - that goes for me as well (I am only 5ft 8in

> tall).

> You carry one don't you - your deafblind stick. Shins, sides of knees are

> usually unprotected and the favourite - the groin - a good hard crack or

> two

> with your stick may get you out of a situation.

>

> Simon

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[Guest guest]

Simon-

Excellent recommendations -- I was waiting for your reply! Your explanation

helped my fledgling understanding. I think Aubrie's teacher does Shotokan.

I'm really new at it all so it's hard to remember. But she is so gentle in

her instructions. Her personal interactions with the kids are gentle, yet

there is yelling and movement and force in the exercises. What kid wouldn't

like a place where they can get out all that " oomph! " in their systems and

actually be encouraged to do it!

Sometimes, the kids who want to take turns performing their kadas

independently in front of the group. Aubrie hasn't learned a whole kada

yet. But she made one up with her chuks. The instructor saw her practicing

her " thing " on her own and then invited her to show it to the group. How

encouraging and empowering for Aubrie! She is being recognized and valued

for all the things she can do and there is no focus on what she can't.

And the benefits to her confidence, balance, focus, etc is amazing.

I wish I had time and money to get my black belt with her!

Michele W